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Topic: Donald Fagen/Walter Becker
Posted By: maxprog
Subject: Donald Fagen/Walter Becker
Date Posted: July 18 2011 at 18:22
I'm actually surprised they haven't been added already!  Both should be candidates for the Jazz Rock/Fusion sub-genre. Especially Fagen.



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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: July 18 2011 at 18:29
Could you post some listening samples so the appropriate teams can evaluate this band? 
Welcome to the forum! Smile


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Posted By: maxprog
Date Posted: July 18 2011 at 18:30
I'm referring to their solo material, of course.


Posted By: maxprog
Date Posted: July 18 2011 at 18:32
Thanks for the welcome! I'll try to post some listening material when I'm at my home computer.  Most are probably already familiar with them from their Steely Dan material.


Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: July 18 2011 at 18:41
Originally posted by Andyman1125 Andyman1125 wrote:

Could you post some listening samples so the appropriate teams can evaluate this band? 
Welcome to the forum! Smile
Pretty much a foregone conclusion, I would say from Becker's superb 11 Tracks of Whack! and Fagen's Nightfly, Morph The Kat and  the futuristic Kamakiriad
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Becker's last album Circus Money is OK just not as strong although would still fit the J/R or crossover genres quite comfortably


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Posted By: maxprog
Date Posted: July 18 2011 at 19:04
I agree with you on Circus Money, not  quite up to par, but still listenable all the same.


Posted By: maxprog
Date Posted: July 19 2011 at 05:50
So, I guess I need to go through the submission process to get the ball rolling.

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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: July 19 2011 at 05:59
Originally posted by maxprog maxprog wrote:

So, I guess I need to go through the submission process to get the ball rolling.
I'll recommend them for J/R but these things can take time and methinks Fagen has a better chance than BeckerSmile

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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: July 19 2011 at 10:19
Thanks Chris for taking care of this for us. 


Posted By: maxprog
Date Posted: July 20 2011 at 01:57
Yes Chris, ditto on the "Thank You".  I have to agree on Fagen's vs. Becker's chances for approval.

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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: November 13 2013 at 11:27


Donald Fagen  for Jazz Rock/Fusion


Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: November 13 2013 at 11:43
If it was up to me (it's not so it doesn't really matter) I'd be unsure, as I hear the jazz, a little bit of rock (more towards pop), little fusion and not much prog. All I know is that Donald Fagen's solo stuff is pretty damn good overall, and I recommend it to Dan fans. 

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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: November 14 2013 at 09:03
What I hear when I listen to Donald Fagen is Steely Dan. Do you really need more samples?


Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: November 16 2013 at 08:48
A simple no I could accept but take your time you have had 2 years.


Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: November 16 2013 at 12:33
Nobody has really spent a bit of time to properly suggest these two - come on, lets stop complaining, give some album details and band pages and I will happily pass them on the JR/F team


Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: November 17 2013 at 09:05
https://www.facebook.com/DonaldFagenMusic


After Steely Dan's breakup in 1981, Fagen released his critically acclaimed solo debut album,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nightfly" rel="nofollow - The Nightfly , in October 1982. It reached #11 on the  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Albums" rel="nofollow - Billboard album chart  and was certified  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_recording_sales_certification" rel="nofollow - Platinum  for sales of over a million copies in the United States. Its premiere single was " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I.G.Y._%28What_a_Beautiful_World%29" rel="nofollow - I.G.Y. (What a Beautiful World) ". The song hit the Adult Contemporary Top 10 and peaked at #26 on the  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Hot_100" rel="nofollow - Billboard Hot 100 . The follow-up single, "New Frontier" peaked at #34 AC and #70 Pop and was aided by a popular MTV music video. The Nightfly was nominated for several  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammy_Award" rel="nofollow - Grammy Awards  including  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammy_Award_for_Album_of_the_Year" rel="nofollow - Album of the Year . It was significantly more jazz-based than Fagen's Steely Dan work.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhino_Records" rel="nofollow - Rhino Records  released a special DVD Audio version of The Nightfly in honor of the album's 20th anniversary in 2002.

Fagen's second solo album, 1993's  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamakiriad" rel="nofollow - Kamakiriad , was produced by Becker. It climbed into Billboard's Top 10 but sold fewer copies than  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nightfly" rel="nofollow - The Nightfly , topping off at 900,000 in sales. Kamakiriad was also nominated for a Grammy Award for  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammy_Award_for_Album_of_the_Year" rel="nofollow - Album of the Year .

Recording sessions for Fagen's third solo album,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morph_the_Cat" rel="nofollow - Morph the Cat , began in August 2004 and the album was released March 14, 2006. Performing on the album are  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Krantz" rel="nofollow - Wayne Krantz (guitar),  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Herington" rel="nofollow - Jon Herington  (guitar),  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Carlock" rel="nofollow - Keith Carlock  (drums), Freddy Washington (bass), Ted Baker (piano), and Walt Weiskopf (sax). Upon its release, Morph the Cat received universal acclaim[ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" rel="nofollow - [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" rel="nofollow - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Fagen#cite_note-12" rel="nofollow - [12]

All three of Fagen's albums previously released on the  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-Audio" rel="nofollow - DVDA  format have now been released in Warner's latest format MVI (Music Video Interactive) as a boxed set. Each album features a  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DTS_%28sound_system%29" rel="nofollow - DTS 5.1 , Dolby 5.1 and PCM Stereo mix but no MLP encoded track, along with bonus audio and video content. Customers will also be able to select any track or any portion of a track and use it as their  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone" rel="nofollow - mobile phone   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringtone" rel="nofollow - ringtone .

To support  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morph_the_Cat" rel="nofollow - Morph the Cat , Fagen embarked on his first solo tour, and played dates across the US, with one date in Canada. Fagen's management also sold VIP packages for the tour, which included a pre-show party, premium seats and access to the band's sound checks. This was mocked on his song-writing partner  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Becker" rel="nofollow - Walter Becker 's website. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Fagen#cite_note-13" rel="nofollow - [13]  Fagen joined Becker for a Steely Dan/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_McDonald_%28singer%29" rel="nofollow - Michael McDonald  tour the following summer of 2007.

He also toured with the  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Rock_and_Soul_Revue" rel="nofollow - New York Rock and Soul Revue . The 1986 debut album by  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosie_Vela" rel="nofollow - Rosie Vela , Zazu, inspired the first collaboration between Fagen and Becker following the disbanding of Steely Dan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Fagen#cite_note-14" rel="nofollow - [14]  This led to their reunion as a writing team and the creation of a new touring version of Steely Dan. The following year Fagen co-produced Becker's solo debut,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/11_Tracks_of_Whack" rel="nofollow - 11 Tracks of Whack .

In the spring of 2010, Fagen stated plans to record a fourth solo album which will be lighter in tone and not an extension of the Nightfly trilogy, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Fagen#cite_note-15" rel="nofollow - [15]  anticipating a 2012 release. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Fagen#cite_note-16" rel="nofollow - [16]  On August 13, 2012, the album title was revealed to be  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunken_Condos" rel="nofollow - Sunken Condos  and the release date October 16. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Fagen#cite_note-broadcast-17" rel="nofollow - [17]

In 2012, Fagen also started a second tour with The Dukes of September Rhythm Revue, which included Michael McDonald and Boz Scaggs.



Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: November 17 2013 at 09:11
Originally posted by aapatsos aapatsos wrote:

Nobody has really spent a bit of time to properly suggest these two - come on, lets stop complaining, give some album details and band pages and I will happily pass them on the JR/F team


You mean I should not complain it did not go like this, right?

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=95334


Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: November 17 2013 at 09:12
passed on to the JR/F team


Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: November 17 2013 at 09:14
Originally posted by Chris S Chris S wrote:

Originally posted by maxprog maxprog wrote:

So, I guess I need to go through the submission process to get the ball rolling.
I'll recommend them for J/R but these things can take time and methinks Fagen has a better chance than BeckerSmile

I think he already got passed on??


Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: November 17 2013 at 10:10
Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

Originally posted by aapatsos aapatsos wrote:

Nobody has really spent a bit of time to properly suggest these two - come on, lets stop complaining, give some album details and band pages and I will happily pass them on the JR/F team


You mean I should not complain it did not go like this, right?

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=95334

If you think that is a good example, I leave it up to your judgement. All I am saying is try to help the teams evaluate with some material.

When/if collaborators have time to add some more resources to it, they will, but this should not be taken as a given.


Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: November 17 2013 at 10:25















Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: August 13 2014 at 14:41
Had enough time yet?


Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: August 13 2014 at 15:21
Do they have a chance for inclusion as "Prog Related"?


Posted By: O666
Date Posted: August 14 2014 at 10:05
I have all of their Solo albums and "Sometimes" listened to them . I think its "50-50" to add in PA. I mean: they CAN add and they CAN'T add in PA without fight or discuss!!!


Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: August 14 2014 at 10:29
They were passed to the JR/F team in November last year. We don't know the result of that evaluation yet out here in the public forums, so maybe a nice friendly Collab or S.C. could have a peek behind the curtain for us and report back? Ermm  Embarrassed


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 14 2014 at 10:41
There wasn't any special news about them cause they were discussed and rejected long time ago (around 2008).


Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: August 14 2014 at 11:02
Thanks George. Thumbs Up Only Donald Fagan has released anything new since then (Sunken Condos, 2012), which hardly deviates from previous material in style, so I guess it's Prog Related or bust.
 
It's no great secret that PR is an extremely exclusive sub on this site, with only the occasional band/artist being approved (by admins). Furthermore, one of our S.C.s has to be sufficiently motivated by the prospective candidate in the first place to prepare a convincing argument for their inclusion to present to admins.
 
Unless an S.C. steps forward and grasps the baton, then it ain't gonna happen, and even if an S.C. steps forward and grasps the baton...then it still probably ain't gonna happen! LOL



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