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Topic: Best Produced Prog Album?
Posted By: thehallway
Subject: Best Produced Prog Album?
Date Posted: July 27 2011 at 04:19

Here are a few particularly well-produced albums from Prog's elite, all released in the 1970s, because it would be unfair to put them up against 80s and beyond albums, which are invariably better produced. Which has the best production of these eight?

Note: we're not just voting for our favourite album here.


My vote goes to Supertramp's Crime of the Century, because it's the best produced album I've ever heard (from 1974).



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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: July 27 2011 at 04:26
I vote for Dark Side Of The Moon, though Crime Of The Century would be my second choice. DSotM has been a bench-mark recording for nearly 40 years and while the remasters have clean-up a few minor details, they haven't improved on the original production a huge mount. The first album to come anywhere near to it was Secrets Of The Beehive in '87 - and then (perhaps) only for the exquisitely recorded acoustic piano.

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Posted By: friso
Date Posted: July 27 2011 at 04:56
I dislike the sound of Dark Side of the Moon, but when it comes to production it is easily the winner for me.


Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: July 27 2011 at 05:15
I voted for 'Dark Side..' too - it's production is stunning and highly influential I reckon


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Posted By: Camel666
Date Posted: July 27 2011 at 05:28
Easily Dark Side of the Moon, one of the best produced albums of all time, and it's not me saying it but producers themselves. It's a text book case.


Posted By: JD
Date Posted: July 27 2011 at 06:12
Originally posted by thehallway thehallway wrote:

Here are a few particularly well-produced albums from Prog's elite, all released in the 1970s, because it would be unfair to put them up against 80s and beyond albums, which are invariably better produced. Which has the best production of these eight?

Note: we're not just voting for our favourite album here.


My vote goes to Supertramp's Crime of the Century, because it's the best produced album I've ever heard (from 1974).



First off your comment about 80's and beyond albums being better produced is just wrong on so many levels that I won't even get into it now.

But for my money YES - Close to the edge gets my vote.


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Posted By: dedokras
Date Posted: July 27 2011 at 06:20
Dark Side easy... A genuine textbook case

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Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: July 27 2011 at 06:20
Dark Side, but I agree that Crime of the Century is also a superbly produced record.


Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: July 27 2011 at 06:42
Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Originally posted by thehallway thehallway wrote:

Here are a few particularly well-produced albums from Prog's elite, all released in the 1970s, because it would be unfair to put them up against 80s and beyond albums, which are invariably better produced. Which has the best production of these eight?

Note: we're not just voting for our favourite album here.


My vote goes to Supertramp's Crime of the Century, because it's the best produced album I've ever heard (from 1974).



First off your comment about 80's and beyond albums being better produced is just wrong on so many levels that I won't even get into it now.

But for my money YES - Close to the edge gets my vote.

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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: July 27 2011 at 08:01
DSOTM. It's far from my favourite Floyd album, but in terms of production, I think it's quite remarkable, especially considering it's age.

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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: July 27 2011 at 08:19
You probably shouldn't have put Dark Side on the list. LOL 

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Posted By: criticdrummer94
Date Posted: July 27 2011 at 09:29
Thick as a Brick to me is the best produced album of 1972

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Posted By: glenn_ecko
Date Posted: July 27 2011 at 10:44
I love all of these albums, but I had to go with Crime of the Century


Posted By: Slaughternalia
Date Posted: July 27 2011 at 10:52
I've always HATED the mixing on Glass House. Sounds very unsatisfying to listen to, it's all kind of on one level.

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Posted By: tdfloyd
Date Posted: July 27 2011 at 11:10
Dark Side.  The Production is stunning, even today almost 40 years later.


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: July 27 2011 at 11:21
Originally posted by Slaughternalia Slaughternalia wrote:

I've always HATED the mixing on Glass House. Sounds very unsatisfying to listen to, it's all kind of on one level.


Hmm, me too. I thought I was alone in thinking that. The Power & the Glory has much better production, in my opinion. I much prefer the production on Octopus too.

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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: July 27 2011 at 11:24
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by Slaughternalia Slaughternalia wrote:

I've always HATED the mixing on Glass House. Sounds very unsatisfying to listen to, it's all kind of on one level.


Hmm, me too. I thought I was alone in thinking that. The Power & the Glory has much better production, in my opinion. I much prefer the production on Octopus too.

It's all pretty dry Octopus through TPATG.  


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Posted By: topographicbroadways
Date Posted: July 27 2011 at 11:33
I'm always impressed at how good the Hammond sounds and how well it is mixed on Thick As A Brick


But DSOTM is the obvious winner. Such a brilliant sounding album 


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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: July 27 2011 at 12:57
Crime of the Century for me, the production is immaculate!! It still sounds fresh today, whereas IMO Dark Side sounds a bit dated now.

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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: July 27 2011 at 13:05
Very difficult to choose between DSOTM and Crime. Both are exceptionally well produced, and both will still sound great in many years time.

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DSOTM, but only just.


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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: July 27 2011 at 13:54
Dark Side.


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 27 2011 at 14:51
Wish You Were Here - lovely lush synths.


Posted By: 33rpm
Date Posted: July 27 2011 at 16:56
Crime of the Century is amazing!

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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: July 27 2011 at 22:00
DSotM is one of the few sonically perfect rock albums. It sounded just as good on a friggin' 8-track in the 70s as it does on a remaster now. I would add Days of Future Passed as another incredibly well-produced album

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Posted By: EchidnasArf
Date Posted: July 27 2011 at 22:19
I'm gonna go Wish You Were Here. It probably ties with DSotM as far as production and sound quality are concerned, but the sounds on Wish You Were Here are just a bit more diverse, so it breaks the tie. Both albums have so much depth, with headphones on you feel like you are the music. Wait, that's just the drugs...


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Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: July 28 2011 at 03:29

I think Dark Side has brilliant production but it's not quite as clean as Crime of the Century. Maybe that's just what I prefer though.

A bit of reverb is good in places but I'm never much keen on entire albums drenched in echo. It spoils it, in fact. A few examples: Queen II, Brain Salad Surgery, Wakeman's King Arthur.... I must admit, it has less of a negative effect on Pink Floyd's music.



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Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: July 28 2011 at 10:04
Oh, add Tommy to that list ^

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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: July 28 2011 at 13:53
Originally posted by thehallway thehallway wrote:

I think Dark Side has brilliant production but it's not quite as clean as Crime of the Century. Maybe that's just what I prefer though.

A bit of reverb is good in places but I'm never much keen on entire albums drenched in echo. It spoils it, in fact. A few examples: Queen II, Brain Salad Surgery, Wakeman's King Arthur.... I must admit, it has less of a negative effect on Pink Floyd's music.


Thanks for your comments on Crime of the Century!  Yeah, it does have amazing production!   I voted CTTE out of knee-jerk, fan-boy love for Yes and Eddie Offord, and it would be in the Top Ten, but I agree with you about COTC. 

I especially like the bass-playing on that album, it is incredibly tasteful!  


Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: July 28 2011 at 14:03
DSOM,Crime,SEBTP.


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 28 2011 at 14:11
Wish you were here gets my vote. I think it is remarkable how delicate that album sounds. The production exudes the gentleness of the two long tracks, whilst still feeling tight and rough around the edges on Have a cigar. Plus I love the robotsounds of Welcome to the machine, which again whilst being extremely weird and laserlike, work very delicately. Productionwise I think Wish you were here sounds like a long and hairless female leg stepping into a smooth silky pantyhose.
My fave sound production ever is the one on Lucio Battisti´s Anima Latina.  


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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: July 28 2011 at 14:16
Best produced album from this list is undoubtedly The Dark Side Of The Moon, which surely earns a majority of votes.
 
But I consider Red for the best album from the list, which has paradoxically zero votes.Shocked


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Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: July 28 2011 at 14:45
Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

Best produced album from this list is undoubtedly The Dark Side Of The Moon, which surely earns a majority of votes.
 
But I consider Red for the best album from the list, which has paradoxically zero votes.Shocked

Your first sentence explains away your second one.


Confused



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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: July 28 2011 at 14:58
Originally posted by thehallway thehallway wrote:

Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

Best produced album from this list is undoubtedly The Dark Side Of The Moon, which surely earns a majority of votes.
 
But I consider Red for the best album from the list, which has paradoxically zero votes.Shocked

Your first sentence explains away your second one.


Confused



No, he thinks Dark Side is the best produced but Red is his personal favorite.

Anyway, DSotM for me too, as it does have extensive production which was done very well.


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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: July 28 2011 at 15:15
Originally posted by thehallway thehallway wrote:

Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

Best produced album from this list is undoubtedly The Dark Side Of The Moon, which surely earns a majority of votes.
 
But I consider Red for the best album from the list, which has paradoxically zero votes.Shocked

Your first sentence explains away your second one.


Confused

Well. This Pink Floyd´s album is undoubtedly much more sold than King Crimson´s one, actually it´s one of the most commercial succesful Rock album ever. Its sound is fantastic, even bombastic, with many innovative effects, multi-layered vocals, keyboards, guitars etc.
 
But Red shows the band in the best line-up, incredible virtuosity and lightness radiates from every tone and chord. It´s my heart matter, no doubt!
 
All albums have 5 stars for me, but from different reasons. The first one, let´s say,  for marvellous production and fantastic immortal tunes. The second one for excellent musicianship and songwriting. Plus a strange Crimsonian "charm".Wink


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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: July 29 2011 at 10:05
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Wish you were here gets my vote. I think it is remarkable how delicate that album sounds. The production exudes the gentleness of the two long tracks, whilst still feeling tight and rough around the edges on Have a cigar. Plus I love the robotsounds of Welcome to the machine, which again whilst being extremely weird and laserlike, work very delicately. Productionwise I think Wish you were here sounds like a long and hairless female leg stepping into a smooth silky pantyhose.
My fave sound production ever is the one on Lucio Battisti´s Anima Latina.  


I love that album, stunning. An interesting production, somehow both sombre (the reverb I guess) and warm, the way the brass is captured, perhaps?


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 29 2011 at 11:04
^It does add that warmth to it, you´re absolutely right. Always listen to this album in the mornings for some reason. The way it starts also mimic the actual sunrise - be it cloudy, red, grey or all things at once  - and I´ve had my fair share of goosebumps looking out my window with this playing in the back.

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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: July 29 2011 at 11:26
I went with Wish You Were Here -- there's a very warm yet distant sound to that album that I've always enjoyed.  I like the way they split up the title track to open and close the work, and put those other 3 songs in the middle - very good strategy that paid off.

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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: July 29 2011 at 11:37
From the list.....Dark Side of the Moon

In my opinion.....Tales of Mystery and Imagination - Edgar Alan Poe

Both of course produced  by the great Alan Parsons

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Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: July 29 2011 at 13:09
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

I vote for Dark Side Of The Moon, though Crime Of The Century would be my second choice.

This.

And I agree that Tales of Mystery and Imagination is missing on the list. It would be my third choice.


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Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: July 31 2011 at 03:38
Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

Originally posted by thehallway thehallway wrote:

Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

Best produced album from this list is undoubtedly The Dark Side Of The Moon, which surely earns a majority of votes.
 
But I consider Red for the best album from the list, which has paradoxically zero votes.Shocked

Your first sentence explains away your second one.


Confused

Well. This Pink Floyd´s album is undoubtedly much more sold than King Crimson´s one, actually it´s one of the most commercial succesful Rock album ever. Its sound is fantastic, even bombastic, with many innovative effects, multi-layered vocals, keyboards, guitars etc.
 
But Red shows the band in the best line-up, incredible virtuosity and lightness radiates from every tone and chord. It´s my heart matter, no doubt!
 
All albums have 5 stars for me, but from different reasons. The first one, let´s say,  for marvellous production and fantastic immortal tunes. The second one for excellent musicianship and songwriting. Plus a strange Crimsonian "charm".Wink

I understand, but there is nothing strange about Red having zero votes because the poll is about production. 



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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: July 31 2011 at 10:03
The first time I heard Red I thought it was recorded in the 90s or something, sounds ahead of its time I think. Though I don't think it is the best on this list in terms of production.  

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Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: July 31 2011 at 10:46
Rush - Moving Pictures really should be listed. 

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Posted By: N-sz
Date Posted: July 31 2011 at 22:18
Finally, a poll where I know all of the albums!
Alright, I can vote on polls now!

It was a close one between Dark Side of the Moon and Close to the Edge, but I went with Close to the Edge. It needed more than that.

Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

The first time I heard Red I thought it was recorded in the 90s or something, sounds ahead of its time I think. Though I don't think it is the best on this list in terms of production.  

Exactly what I thought too.


Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: July 31 2011 at 22:59
It's simply unfair. All of these albums are good, but none, save for Dark Side, NEEDED advanced production. Dark Side, why that album is one that needs the studio like a loving brother. The eerie 'short sharp shock and they won't do it again', the heart-beats, the building album overture with Gig screaming in speak to me, the clocks - what a memorable event the first time the clocks banged in your head, huh? That's acutely memorable production. I had to go with the obvious choice.


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: August 01 2011 at 03:41
Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

The first time I heard Red I thought it was recorded in the 90s or something, sounds ahead of its time I think. Though I don't think it is the best on this list in terms of production.  


Good point about Red, I agree.

How about Zepp's Houses Of The Holy? We can consider it a prog album. :D


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: August 01 2011 at 22:11
DSOTM from the list.
Other / Tull A Passion Play.

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Posted By: The Wrinkler
Date Posted: August 02 2011 at 01:26
DSOTM all the way! Second would be WIsh You Were Here.


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Date Posted: August 02 2011 at 02:01
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