King Crimson albums
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Topic: King Crimson albums
Posted By: stonebeard
Subject: King Crimson albums
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 03:00
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if i liked in the court of the crimson king, but not all that much (which i do) what would you recommend as a followup (i hear that both Red and Absent Lovers are very good, any others, or would those two be the best way to go?) Thank u much ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
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Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 03:50
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What kind of elements did you like on their 1st album? |
Posted By: Gluonio
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 09:48
I would recomend Larks' tongues in aspic.It's my second favourite KC album ------------- ...But my dreams are for dreaming and best left that way-and my zero to your power of ten equals nothing at all... |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 10:12
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I like Lizard! 'svery tasty! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 10:41
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I'd say Red and Lizard. You can get those at quite low prices on ebay. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to: 
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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 10:45
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I like In the wake of poseidon almost as much and some elements better than ITCOTCK, but it's pretty much the same in atmosphere and construct, a bit more jazz influences I think. The Devil's triangle is a beauty haven't heard Red Yet, but from the songs I know, I would say it has to be a good record, will be buying it, in due time ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 10:53
Poseidon was my first KC album and I love it ... I have to admit that I never heard ItCotCK ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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tuxon wrote:
. I must remember to add it to my ebay watchlist.Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 11:13
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I would go with In the Wake of Poseidon. You may find that you like it more than "In the Court". Then just move up the list from there: Lizard, Islands, Larks' Tongues, etc. ------------- "The red polygon's only desire / is to get to the blue triangle." |
Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 12:14
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In the Wake of Poseidon
Lizard Red Larks Tongues In Aspic Starless and Bible Black Any of these. They're all masterpieces. 
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Posted By: Retrovertigo
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 13:16
| Look at the ratings for KC albums and some of the reviews, that should help you. And you'll probably notice that their transitional albums where they develop a new sound are always the best. Example, Discipline is great, Beat isn't. Fripp can't seem to find consistency after he hits the world with a new sound. |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 14:32
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In order: Lark's Tongues in Aspic!!!! Then get "Starless and bible black", "Wake of Poseidon", Red" and "Lizard" Warning: stay away from "Islands" until you have acquired the albums above! ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: Rune3000
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 18:04
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I would recommend you to do what I did (and become their huge admirer): Start of with: In The Court Of Crimson King [check] then proceed with: - Red - Larks Tougues In Aspic - Thrak Now you've covered the basics. Proceed with: - Lizard - Discipline Finally you can cover the rest depending on you taste: If you loved "Larks Tougues In Aspic" and "Lizard", the proceed with the early era 69-74 If you liked "Thrak" and "Dicipline" then listen to the 81-84 & 94-present eras. Note: Listen to at least four different albums before having a go at "Starless And Bible Black". Although it’s my favourite KC-album, I recommend that you learn more about the bands arrangement before taking on their peak-achievement. Wait before obtaining " And (advise no.1) stay away from "Beat"!
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 18:27
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Its not just me that thinks that Beat is rubbish then? good! If you didn't like "Court" much, avoid "Posiedon" as its very similar. Thers a favourite Crimson poll somewhere, check that out!
You've probably read it already, but heres that Poll anyway. http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4041 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4041 ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 22:23
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Thank you everybody (especially Rune3000 for such a great guideline) i've actually heard Thrak. though it was a while ago, it thought it to be unlistenable rubbish for the most part. so i'm gonna start in the early years and may eventually work up to the 80s and beyond. peace. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 05:51
Good overview from 60's to 1974: http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=1913 - http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD. asp?cd_id=1913 |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 18:12
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Yeah, Red and Larks' Toungues is the best place for you to go. Then Starless And Bible Black. Then The Early Stuff (minus Islands), then why not try your hand at either THRAK or The Power To Believe. Of course theres always the 80s stuff (my fav. atcually) but very different from the rest. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 19:01
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I favor Red and the KC albums with Adrian Belew,especially Discipline and Thrak.I have a question for anyone who would care to respond,is KC's 2003 album The Power to Believe any good?I was thinking of buying it and have never heard it,and there are no samples on this site. -------------  |
Posted By: Jos Jr.
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 19:52
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King Crimson is a great band, but they just started with their peak! In the Court of the Crimson King is an album to be beated , not only by KC , but by almost any other prog band! The chemistry of the 5 initial members is very hard to be achieved! It happens only once in a lifetime and probably Robert Fripp will never get it again with any other line-up! Red is a great album, so it is Larks Tongues in Aspic or even In the wake of Poseidon, but they cannot revive the intensity of Epitaph or ITCOTKC . It is like a driver who started with a Ferrari! No other car will be enough for him after. |
Posted By: Retrovertigo
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 02:02
| Why not go with In The Wake Of Poseidon and finish chronologically? |
Posted By: HeirToRuin
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 10:24
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I'd advise you to get The Power To Believe and see the current state of the band since you've heard their beginning.
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Posted By: Cygnus
Date Posted: July 28 2005 at 03:59
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RED is my favorite. You should get it. I also like Larks tongues which is more heavy. Stay away of beat for sure. enjoy |
Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: July 28 2005 at 23:35
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Is Thrak worth picking up? I've heard some material off of it and it doesn't half-bad. The whole double-trio idea wounds pretty wicked cool to me. |
Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: July 28 2005 at 23:40
Thrak to me is a really good. The double-trio concept was executed well, and you even get the two trios coming together at one point (Bruford and Mastalleto [sp?] have a duet drum solo). The bass work is also top notch, as is the guitar. I recommend a purchase of it. ------------- 
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Posted By: HiHello
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 07:39
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I've search everywhere for Starless and Bible Black, especially that title track....if anyone has it it would be greatly appreciated ------------- 
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Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 13:59
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KC is notoriously difficult to find at stores. Best to do is online, or order from a music, although I did get lucky and found Red and Discipline at a nearby Media Play (chain store here in the states.) |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 15:08
| Larks' Tongues and Red. |
Posted By: Paradox
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 15:28
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In The Wake Of Poseidon! ------------- 
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Posted By: Wormboy
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 15:31
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There are basically three "King Crimsons" and IMO each has its
signature album. The first era is "psychadelic/progressive" and
COTCK is a good representative . This is my least favorite
Crimson,as I've never been a big psychadelic fan, but there are fun
spots and COTCK represents some good ones. The second era is a heavier, jazzier Crim, and this is the time where Bruford comes into his own, plus there's very different bass playing, a a charming array of horn/violin/etc players. This is probably Fripp's most melodic period, and the music was very popular with the free jazz/fusion fans of the time, along with progheads. I would argue that the best album of this era is "Red," which many people consider to be a seminal album in all rock music (for example, apparently Nirvana was influenced by Red.) Starless is also a phenomenal album. My only criticism of this period is that Wetton, while a fine bassist that meshed well with the other musicians, is over-extending himself vocally. The man just isn't made to be a lead singer, and you can hear him straining. But IMO that is the only limitation of this period. The final period represents a serious departure, and was kicked off by "Discipline." This is the lineup with arguably the best overall musicianship, as not only does the incredible bassist/stick player Tony Levin join them, but Adrian Belew brings a guitar style that is as good as Fripp's but quite different. The synergy of this group, in my mind, represents the most original music of the 80s. Discipline is the hallmark album, and a must for any Crim fan. Belew's vocals are IMO the only weak link in this period. He has a fine voice, but for some reason the tone bothers me somewhat. Also, while he brings some really cool lyrical innovations that are unique, he also bombs some (I'm guessing that most people will focus on "heartbeat") Thrak is more or less an extension of the Discipline era. I think it suffers from too many musicians, and the sound is just muddied. IMO 4 virtuosos was the maximum for any any band. You're gooing to add two more? Bad idea. Either nobody gets to strut their stuff adequately, or they DO strut their stuff and there is way too much going on. Just doesn't work. But there is some fun stuff here. |
Posted By: Wormboy
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 15:33
I disaggre. See my above post. An interesting idea that comes across as pretty lame in execution. And when they aren't playing double-trio, the sounds is muddied by too many musicians. Let's face it, except for cool double drummer solos, do most bands benefit by having two drummers? Err, no. Plus, they made Tony Levin a plain bass player. What a crime! |
Posted By: kingofbizzare
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 23:07
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Of the KC albums I've heard (Red, Larks' Tongues, Islands, and ITCOTCK), Red and Larks' Tongues are easily the best two.
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Posted By: nousommedusolei
Date Posted: July 31 2005 at 01:50
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Well, I'd check out their later stuff. Maybe Islands or Lizard (Stay way from "In the Wake of Poseidon" if you didn't much care for "In the Court"). They just remastered "Red" and soon "Starless and Bible Black" will be remastered. I'd check out one of those, too. ------------- I don't believe in demons I don't believe in devils I only believe in you |
Posted By: con safo
Date Posted: July 31 2005 at 03:50
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Listen to some of their earlier stuff, Poisedon, Lizard Then move on to their more experimental work, Lark's Tongue In Aspic, Islands and Red , all superb ------------- 
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: July 31 2005 at 09:30
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You will not get disepointed withe any 70s KC album, thyer all great why not get Posidon then Lizard then Island, and soo on... I have to say that poseidon is very underated. ------------- 
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Posted By: the dragon
Date Posted: August 02 2005 at 06:51
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RED ------------- Still alive... |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: August 05 2005 at 14:20
| I've got (and like) Red and Lark's Tongues, but I find them both patchy, ranging from the brilliant (Schizoid Man) to the almost unlistenable (Moonchild). I've recently got Lizard and that is really good. |
Posted By: M. B. Zapelini
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 07:32
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Posted By: M. B. Zapelini
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 07:36
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I would like to recommend some KC live albums: - "The Great Deceiver" (4-CD box set) - very expensive, but worth the price; - "B'Boom" - double trio formation at their finest; - "Epitaph" - awful sound quality, but KC's first line up was simply fantastic on stage; - "Ladies of the Road" - KC rocking and rolling with Boz, Wallace, Collins. IMHO, KC live is far better than in studio. |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 07:38
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THRaKaTTaK is IMO one of the darkest albums of King Crimson...
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 08 2005 at 00:11
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red is very nice ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: spectral
Date Posted: August 08 2005 at 14:47
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Red is awesome. There are some good songs on Discipline too. But Wetton and Bruford are as integral to KC as Fripp, IMO. Which is probably why are prefer the albums with those guys on. ------------- "...misty halos made visible by the spectral illumination of moonshine." |