Musical Box Vs Starless
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Topic: Musical Box Vs Starless
Posted By: Svetonio
Subject: Musical Box Vs Starless
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 08:13
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I clicked on Starless
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 08:15
good poll, impossible to choose  toughest choice, two incredibly good songs.
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 08:19
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The Musical Box, as much as I like Starless I just feel they've never pulled the ending off live or in studio, its just not chaotic or explosive enough.
------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: porcupinethree
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 08:45
| Starless obviously much more complicated <3 |
Posted By: PabstRibbon
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 09:10
| that's hard !! I picked up Starless only because of the production is better ( and maybe because of those 2 first second with mellotron so amazing haha ) |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 09:28
You took the words right out of my mouth.
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Cristi wrote:Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 09:28
| Musical Box by a little, the ending of Box is one of the best end sections of any song. Both are terrific. |
Posted By: voliveira
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 09:34
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I love the two songs, but Starless wins, i think ------------- "For where your treasure is, there your heart will be" Matthew 6:21 |
Posted By: Little Arabella
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 09:35
| Play me my song... |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 09:42
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The Musical Box beyond doubt. Indisputably one of the greatest tracks in all of progressive rock. Far more complex and interesting than Starless with tension and a climax that Crimson could never match, and Hackett's guitar playing makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up.
Frankly, the less said about Starless the better. That's 11 minutes of my life I won't get back; I just can't listen to Fripp's repetitive and tuneless guitar playing any more. The first and last minutes have some interest; that's it. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Nash
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 09:52
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Starless! ------------- http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/sydbarrettg.jpg/" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 10:31
this |
Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 10:47
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The Musical Box.
-------------  One of my best achievements in life was to find this picture :D |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 11:07
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Good match up. I picked Starless because it still makes my hair stand on end. The drama of Box has gotten slightly old to me, and musically the band were still a year or two away from their peak. Still a stone cold classic of course, and guaranteed to blow neophytes out of their chairs. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 11:26
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Starless ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 11:56
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Open your eyes It's full of surprise, everyone lies like the fox on the rocks and... ------------- 
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 13:22
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Good poll... hard to choose, but I chose in the end: Starless |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 13:46
| I would have thought Starless would be winning this... there was a time I thought that song was almost unbeatable within this forum. However, I do prefer Starless (specially live). On the other hand, if it had been set against Firth of Fifth... that would have been another story. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 13:57
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The Musical Box. One of the best of Genesis. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 13:58
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Starless by a country mile for me; just perfection IMO. The Musical Box would be great if it didn't sound like s**t. Horrible production. ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 15:05
Pretty much this. Both are damn near perfect songs though. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 15:46
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Really good poll.........even if I was a bigger KC listener than a Genesis listener, I would always have to choose
The Musical Box -------------   
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Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 15:56
| Musical box is the most overrated song in prog history, |
Posted By: JesusisLord
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 16:11
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The Musical Box is the most overrated song in Prog History.....Wow, what a statement...... Do you really believe that or are you just talking foolishly, trying to be funny? ------------- And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. Phillipians 2:11 |
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 16:23
Its mediocre at best. Blande melodies of light and heavy. It's amazing how much love for this song, almost as if people are brainwashed
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Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 16:26
| Starless for me. The Musical Box is one of the best Genesis songs, but loses clearly when compared with Starless ... |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 16:37
Well that is about it. Your credentials as a Doctor of Prog are truly now in tatters. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 17:07
I couldn't agree more. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 17:53
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As much as i love The Musical Box, it hasn't aged as well as Starless. Off of the same album, i think Fountain of Salmacis is better. Like Dr. Prog said, it can has a sense of predictability, when it comes to the heavy/soft changes. I still love it though.
------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 19:56
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I agree with Dr Prog, The Musical Box is highly overrated. ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 20:23
| Early KC material is overatted. The Box for me. |
Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 21:10
Curse you!  I love TMB, but I love Starless even more. ------------- -- Frank Swarbrick Belief is not Truth. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 21:17
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There are few songs out there that can beat Starless in my ears.
This isn't one of them. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: petrica
Date Posted: December 25 2011 at 03:28
| Cannot vote on this one. Both are amazing. |
Posted By: Varon
Date Posted: December 26 2011 at 05:04
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Starless by 1000 miles ------------- Would you catch the final words of mine? Would you catch my words??? |
Posted By: QuestionableScum
Date Posted: December 26 2011 at 14:03
| The Musical Box is one of my favourite Genesis tracks, but I much prefer Starless. There is something deeply powerful about Starless, that the Musical Box lacks. |
Posted By: GoldenGod2112
Date Posted: December 26 2011 at 14:20
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Both are absolutely great. But Starless wins by just a little. ------------- The future's uncertain and the end is always near. - Jim Morrison |
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: December 26 2011 at 15:41
Starless is fairly good although I'm not really blown away like most people in here. I probably like the instrumental version more actually.
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Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: December 27 2011 at 00:06
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The Musical Box is great, one of Genesis' most rocking tunes, but...I still have to go with Starless. Besides, Starless has better lyrics
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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: December 27 2011 at 21:37
| to me Musical Box is one of the greatest prog tracks, with one of the greatest end sequences, ever, and I'm not a huge Genesis fan. In fact, I prefer KC overall, mostly on the basis of their earliest classics, but, like Hercules said, the first few minutes of Starless and the end are enough for me. So Musical Box all the way |
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: December 28 2011 at 00:42
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The Musical Box by a incredibly large margin.
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Posted By: kevin4peace
Date Posted: December 30 2011 at 17:59
| Starless for me. King Crimson is just a lot better than Genesis for me... |
Posted By: King Manuel
Date Posted: March 08 2012 at 00:15
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What an easy question .... the clock tick tock ------------- Don't Bore Us, Get To The Chorus |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: March 08 2012 at 04:31
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It should have been supper's ready aginst starless. Anyway it's king crimson any day. |
Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: March 08 2012 at 13:20
| Definitely Starless. |
Posted By: Capt Fongsby
Date Posted: March 08 2012 at 16:06
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Musical box is great, but Starless is superb. |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: March 08 2012 at 16:10
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Today I have listened to the Starless cover by Akt. Even the cover is superb. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: March 08 2012 at 19:20
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Starless. -------------  
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: March 08 2012 at 21:03
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Today, Musical Box. Better video. I love Peter Gabriel's antics. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: March 09 2012 at 13:13
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Musical Box ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: Mr. Maestro
Date Posted: March 09 2012 at 14:15
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"Starless" is downright sublime, and one of my top 10 favorite songs ever recorded. "The Musical Box," while wonderful in its own right, doesn't even come close. ------------- "I am the one who crossed through space...or stayed where I was...or didn't exist in the first place...." |
Posted By: bb1319
Date Posted: March 10 2012 at 08:15
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Starless, just because I feel that it has more of a sense of movement and progression, from the soft opening section to the two note guitar solo to the epic ending....also, Starless has one of my favorite endings ever to a song...Musical Box is great too, probably one of my favorite Genesis tracks ------------- "I'd say that what we hear is the quality of our listening." -Robert Fripp |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: March 11 2012 at 01:20
| I have to say 'The Musical Box' ... because it's more ... unstable. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: March 31 2012 at 21:51
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I always believed that Musical Box is the best song ever. It has everything, 1.- Great lyrics and concept 2.- Excellent melody in various passages 3.- Radical changes 4.- The best finale in history This song describes Prog, the production is not perfect, but I thought we were here for the music. Starless is great (One of the few King Crimson songs I like apart from ItCotCK), but doesn't come remotely close. My 2 cents Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: iamathousandapples
Date Posted: March 31 2012 at 22:03
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if it was Firth of Fifth vs Starless it would have been a much harder decision, but Starless. Easily. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/thamazingbender" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: March 31 2012 at 22:13
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Firth of Fifth isn't even that good. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: hobocamp
Date Posted: April 01 2012 at 09:33
| I enjoy Starless more than anything by Genesis. It might have been a closer match against Supper's, and Musical v. Lizard might be close as well. Either way my vote goes to KC. |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: April 01 2012 at 13:12
| I do love Genesis and have just about all their progy albums, but i would prefer pretty much every KC track in their 70's on most of Genesis tracks. |