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Topic: Martin Barre says Tull finished
Posted By: thirdofnever
Subject: Martin Barre says Tull finished
Date Posted: January 21 2012 at 23:32
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: January 22 2012 at 13:20
I don't have time to listen to that interview right now. Could you quickly summarise exactly what he said regarding the future of Tull? I remember reading something a few months ago which implied that he was personally finished with Tull but Tull themselves were carrying on without him. If that's all he's saying here then that's a substantially different thing to saying Tull's finished.


Posted By: Slaughternalia
Date Posted: January 22 2012 at 13:25
Originally posted by The Hemulen The Hemulen wrote:

I don't have time to listen to that interview right now. Could you quickly summarise exactly what he said regarding the future of Tull?


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Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: January 25 2012 at 18:40
Originally posted by thirdofnever thirdofnever wrote:

http://www.kinston.com/articles/jethro-78234-tull-barre.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.kinston.com/articles/jethro-78234-tull-barre.html


He doesn't say Tull are finished.

He says at least two times that Tull "are on ice".

Which I must admit doesn't sound optimistic but he does not say they are finished.

As he states in the interview Tull are probably the only band in existence that have not had a hiatus in their career. i.e. they have toured every year since 1968 (except for 1985 where they only played 1 show). So it seems to him inevitable that a break is a healthy thing. But you get a feeling that he is/was not happy with the present Tull touring aspect, he is very careful however at not putting Ian down in any way. Which is in itself shows great character.

I have a gut feeling there will be a Tull album in the future (unless one of them passes away...I shouldn't think like that)...maybe it will happen in 2018 to celebrate their 50th anniversary. One thing that is likely is that it Will be their last.


Posted By: DiamondDog
Date Posted: January 26 2012 at 11:16
Tull was finished when Ian broke up the band. After that it was just him & whoever.


Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: January 26 2012 at 14:38
Originally posted by DiamondDog DiamondDog wrote:

Tull was finished when Ian broke up the band. After that it was just him & whoever.

When did Andeson break up Tull? 1968?1970? 1971? 1975? 1979? 1980? 1983? 1987? 1989? 1991? 1995? 1999? 2005? I.e. whenever there was a personnel change? 
Tull has been an evolving entity over 44 years with Anderson and Barre being the constants.
They have never broken up.


Posted By: Warthur
Date Posted: January 27 2012 at 05:06
I seem to remember seeing the current Aqualung 40th anniversary shows being promoted around here as Ian Anderson solo shows, not Tull performances. Which struck me as being kind of odd - why not bring out the full band if you're going to commemorate one of its finest achievements?


Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: January 27 2012 at 05:46
Originally posted by BarryGlibb BarryGlibb wrote:

Originally posted by DiamondDog DiamondDog wrote:

Tull was finished when Ian broke up the band. After that it was just him & whoever.

When did Andeson break up Tull? 1968?1970? 1971? 1975? 1979? 1980? 1983? 1987? 1989? 1991? 1995? 1999? 2005? I.e. whenever there was a personnel change? 
Tull has been an evolving entity over 44 years with Anderson and Barre being the constants.
They have never broken up.
 
As far as I remember the band shortly broke up around 1973. Anyone who can confirm this?
 
...as a consequence War Child was actually supposed to have been an Ian A. solo album.


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Posted By: DiamondDog
Date Posted: January 27 2012 at 08:41
An 'evolving entity' huh? Is that what you call something that has a sun in the centre with varying orbiting moons? Martin Barre was only a constant after the original guitarist was kicked out, then everyone else followed....and followed....and followed...... Don't get me wrong, anything Ian Anderson does is fine by me, he's terrific! But 'Jethro Tull' is only a jar label, not a band at all.


Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: January 27 2012 at 09:00
Originally posted by DiamondDog DiamondDog wrote:

An 'evolving entity' huh? Is that what you call something that has a sun in the centre with varying orbiting moons? Martin Barre was only a constant after the original guitarist was kicked out, then everyone else followed....and followed....and followed...... Don't get me wrong, anything Ian Anderson does is fine by me, he's terrific! But 'Jethro Tull' is only a jar label, not a band at all.


That is a really weird attitude.


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: January 27 2012 at 11:00
Hi,
 
I don't know ... I really thought that Tull was over for me since "Minstrel in a Gallery" ... I never got into the small cuts and the radio music gig that Ian went on for, even though there always was a nice piece or song here and there. It stopped being progressive after 1975, let's say ... for me!


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Posted By: DiamondDog
Date Posted: January 27 2012 at 15:18
Originally posted by The Hemulen The Hemulen wrote:

Originally posted by DiamondDog DiamondDog wrote:

An 'evolving entity' huh? Is that what you call something that has a sun in the centre with varying orbiting moons? Martin Barre was only a constant after the original guitarist was kicked out, then everyone else followed....and followed....and followed...... Don't get me wrong, anything Ian Anderson does is fine by me, he's terrific! But 'Jethro Tull' is only a jar label, not a band at all.


That is a really weird attitude.
What's weird to me is kidding yourself that a band exists when it doesn't. I suppose some people need a comfort zone.


Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: January 27 2012 at 17:04
Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

Originally posted by BarryGlibb BarryGlibb wrote:

Originally posted by DiamondDog DiamondDog wrote:

Tull was finished when Ian broke up the band. After that it was just him & whoever.

When did Andeson break up Tull? 1968?1970? 1971? 1975? 1979? 1980? 1983? 1987? 1989? 1991? 1995? 1999? 2005? I.e. whenever there was a personnel change? 
Tull has been an evolving entity over 44 years with Anderson and Barre being the constants.
They have never broken up.
 
As far as I remember the band shortly broke up around 1973. Anyone who can confirm this?
 
...as a consequence War Child was actually supposed to have been an Ian A. solo album.

The1973 split was just a publicity stunt by manager Terry Ellis in response to the bad reviews of A Passion Play.....they did not break up.
Warchild was never going to be an Ian Anderson solo project. It was intended to be a feature film with Adam Faith playing the lead role but it did not come to fruition. Now that project should be recommisioned! 

The A album was the one that was going to be a solo Anderson project but ended up being a new Tull album with a few different personnel such as Eddie Jobson.


Posted By: enigma
Date Posted: January 31 2012 at 13:00
It's probably mentioned elsewhere in this forum, but Planet Rock are having an Ian Anderson special later this week when he'll be playing tracks from the new Thick As A Brick 2 album.

Sorry if already mentioned elsewhere


Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: January 31 2012 at 13:11
Originally posted by enigma enigma wrote:

It's probably mentioned elsewhere in this forum, but Planet Rock are having an Ian Anderson special later this week when he'll be playing tracks from the new Thick As A Brick 2 album.


The what now?


Posted By: enigma
Date Posted: January 31 2012 at 13:28
I just heard it mentioned 30 minutes ago on the station (Nicky Horne I think).
He said the show will be starting at 6pm (GMT), I guess it will be in the next few days.

I've not found any mention of Anderson doing TAAB2 anywhere other than his 2012 tour of the original album.
I hope Horne did not get mixed up, the wife and I have had our flabber well and truly ghasted by what he said.


Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: January 31 2012 at 13:33
Originally posted by enigma enigma wrote:

I just heard it mentioned 30 minutes ago on the station (Nicky Horne I think).
He said the show will be starting at 6pm (GMT), I guess it will be in the next few days.

I've not found any mention of Anderson doing TAAB2 anywhere other than his 2012 tour of the original album.
I hope Horne did not get mixed up, the wife and I have had our flabber well and truly ghasted by what he said.

I suspect it's a misread/misquote.


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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: January 31 2012 at 13:36
Originally posted by enigma enigma wrote:

I just heard it mentioned 30 minutes ago on the station (Nicky Horne I think).
He said the show will be starting at 6pm (GMT), I guess it will be in the next few days.

I've not found any mention of Anderson doing TAAB2 anywhere other than his 2012 tour of the original album.
I hope Horne did not get mixed up, the wife and I have had our flabber well and truly ghasted by what he said.


Yeah, I think there's gotta be some kind of mix up here. I was aware of the tour and I think there might have been some kind of new anniversary release of the album, so maybe it's in reference to that. I honestly can't imagine Anderson wanting to do some kind of TAAB sequel at this stage in his career and, if he had, I reckon we'd have heard something about it prior to the tracks being ready for radio airplay.


Posted By: enigma
Date Posted: January 31 2012 at 14:13
Gerald Bostock is now on Twitter using the name @TAAB2
an hour ago he tweeted this....

https://twitter.com/taab2/status/164412785810345984


Posted By: enigma
Date Posted: January 31 2012 at 14:44
It appears to be genuine, TAAB2 is real!


Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: January 31 2012 at 15:03
Well, as taab was already taken I guess he just had to put a 2 in it. Can't see any big news coming.

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Posted By: enigma
Date Posted: January 31 2012 at 15:12
They have just mentioned it again on planet rock. A countdown has started on the jethro Tull site for a big announcement.


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 31 2012 at 15:21
I like A but I think they were finished after Stormwatch, but if they put out new stuff I will check it out with an open mind.

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Posted By: enigma
Date Posted: January 31 2012 at 16:34
just 1 hour 27 mins till the announcement

http://www.j-tull.com/

(shoot me if I'm wrong Ouch)


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 31 2012 at 16:41
Originally posted by enigma enigma wrote:

just 1 hour 27 mins till the announcement

http://www.j-tull.com/

(shoot me if I'm wrong Ouch)



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Posted By: enigma
Date Posted: January 31 2012 at 18:02
Thick As A Brick sequel
to be released April 2nd

TAAB2 - Whatever HappenedTo Gerald Bostock? - is a full length Progressive Rock "concept" album worthy of its predecessor. Boy to man and beyond, it looks at what might have befallen the child poet Gerald Bostock in later life. Or, perhaps, any of us. To be released in two formats: the simple jewel case CD with 8-page booklet and the Special Edition with CD, audio-visual DVD and 16-page booklet. The DVD contains 5.1 surround mixes, 24-bit stereo mix, videos covering the making of the album, interviews with the musicians and the lyric reading where ian Anderson reads the lyrics in various settings. Also on the DVD are the pages of StCleve.com, the online update of the St Cleve Chronicle, fabled newspaper of the original album, and the multilingual lyric translations in Italian, German, Spanish, Czech, Polish and Russian.


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: January 31 2012 at 18:36
Sounds great!!! New Tull!!!

Is Martin Barre playing on this album, or is/was he already out of Tull?


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: January 31 2012 at 18:59
Couldn't find info on the official website... though I guess not.

However, indeed Thick as a Brick, old and new, seem to be coming into tour... both performed completley.


Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: January 31 2012 at 19:14
Thicker than a Brick?

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Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: January 31 2012 at 23:05
Originally posted by Pekka Pekka wrote:

Well, as taab was already taken I guess he just had to put a 2 in it. Can't see any big news coming.

Ha! Guess I was wrong then Big smile Really hard to say what to expect from the old man.


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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: February 01 2012 at 02:16
Crikey. I'll be honest, I'm still a little bit sceptical right now for a number of reasons:

1. Martin Barre's been pretty open about stepping away from Tull for the foreseeable. After so long of the band treading water why would he quit on the cusp of a massive new album release?
2. Anderson has gone to great lengths to declare TAAB as a spoof prog album. He stopped writing prog songs a long time ago, so what's brought about the change of heart and musical direction?
3. The release date. April 2nd? That leaves a convenient window for another "big announcement" on April 1st.

Ultimately, if it is genuine then I hope all involved have put some real effort into it. To produce a fitting sequel to an album widely regarded as a masterpiece some 40 years later is a pretty damn bold move. It invites direct comparisons to the original which surely wouldn't be welcome unless Anderson was supremely confident about the new album.

So forgive me if I don't celebrate just yet. In fact, I'll probably still have some nagging doubts until I'm actually holding the damn thing.

Edit: There's a lengthy post by Anderson on the official site that I'd not noticed earlier. It gives a pretty plausible account of the new album's genesis and actually gives me a little hope for the project. The elephant in the room here is to what extent is this an artistic choice and to what extent is it a financial one? It seems Ian's finally cottoned on to the prog resurgence and the marketing opportunities afforded by making a TAAB sequel are considerable. God, I'm in such a cynical mood today. This could be great. I want it to be great. These next few months are gonna be torture.


Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: February 01 2012 at 02:24
Anyone hear Welcome 2 My Nightmare?



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Posted By: enigma
Date Posted: February 01 2012 at 03:20
I'm guessing the PlanetRock interview will have more info along with a sneak-peek at the album's content.

Is it officially a JT release or an Anderson solo project?
Without Barre it would seem odd to call it a Tull album, mind you Floyd/Waters/Gilmour also blurred the boundaries between solo and group albums.


Posted By: Warthur
Date Posted: February 01 2012 at 08:43
Pondering whether I should sit this one out,
My love for Tull's mighty, but I'm so full of doubts.
Is the sequel for real after all of these years
Or is it that Ian has just run out of ideas?
I'm sure the fanboys will make it a hiiiit and
We'll all rush out to review iiiiit but
What if it just sounds shiiiit... next to Thick as a Brick?




Posted By: infandous
Date Posted: February 01 2012 at 09:01
Barre will not be participating in the new album or the tour.  I fear this will not come anywhere close to the original, but at least I won't have high expectations so might be able to appreciate it more.

I will try to reserve judgment until I can listen to it, but I have to say, it just seems like a bad idea all around (and one intended to make some money for Ian........i.e., cash in on past glories).


Posted By: OT Räihälä
Date Posted: February 01 2012 at 11:53
Don't know if this was already posted: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7jZMCBEsZM&feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow - TAAB2

Edit: obviously it was, in another thread.


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Posted By: The_Jester
Date Posted: February 04 2012 at 21:51
TAAB 2 seems a big thing and might be really enjoyable.

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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: February 19 2012 at 12:26
i am so looking forward to this i hope for all of us that we won't be disapointed!


Posted By: Lord Jagged
Date Posted: February 21 2012 at 15:58
I'm not holding my breath that this will be any good - I'm prepared to be proved wrong though. Must keep an open mind.

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