How disappointed were you by Flying Colors?
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Topic: How disappointed were you by Flying Colors?
Posted By: Failcore
Subject: How disappointed were you by Flying Colors?
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 06:45
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 06:51
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Haven't got it yet. Not worth it?
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 06:53
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Snow Dog wrote:Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 06:54
I don't mind. I'd really have to hear it first. I've just read some glowing reviews. Sounds promising.
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Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 08:26
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A lot. The vast majority of the songs were generic radio rock. However, Infinite Fire is incredible. Although it sounded like they plucked a song from Neal's solo albums and tacked it on to the end. -------------  |
Posted By: Harold-The-Barrel
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 09:31
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None of the above, i like it because its very good... ------------- You must be joking.....Take a running jump...... |
Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 09:32
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 09:35
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Posted By: zumacraig
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 10:01
| haven't got it yet, but have heard samples and the last song. it' sounds really good to me. i'm a gen-xer who really didn't care for the alt pop of the 90s, but some of it was catchy. this disc sounds like it has some of that catchy-ness along with a dash of awesome morse guitar and neal's melody and prog-clivities. still, haven't heard the whole thing yet :-) |
Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 10:16
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I think Casey McPherson had most of the creative control and that's where it went wrong.
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Posted By: Harold-The-Barrel
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 10:43
Not really, your option precludes that anyone who likes it is a fanboy of Neal Morse and is subsequently somehow deluded and blind to how bad it really is...so i'll reiterate its a good album because it has good songs.
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 11:22
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The parentheticals were meant to be tongue-in-cheek. AN acknowledgement of my own bias, if you will.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 11:29
Plus you did this in your reply : P ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 11:36
Well the whole supergroup was brought together by some wealthy fan/entrepreneur guy. Obviously Neal Morse and Steve Morse weren't going to give away their material when they're just getting paid for performing. So McPhearson was brought in to write something for them to actually play. Really that "making of" trailer put me off the whole project so I'm probably not going to bother with this album. Why even get such high caliber talent just to have them play generic radio rock that any session musician could have done? Clearly he just wanted their names. ------------- 
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 12:29
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I will not get it......after hearing the bits and trailers I was not interested at all, its not to my liking that's all. I was disappointed before it came out. -------------   
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Posted By: Gallifrey
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 12:46
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Lol what is this I thought it was awesome. ------------- http://thedarkthird.bandcamp.com/ |
Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 12:47
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I get it via Amazon tomorrow.....what I have heard is sweet!
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:00
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I was not disappointed, since Mike Portnoy gave many hints and clues to the type of music it was going to be. Pop, rock, and funk with dashes of prog mixed in. I'm not really into pop/rock too much, especially the modern kind, but this music was really good and catchy. Some solid Steve Morse leads, which gives the music a kind of Dixie Dregs/Dream Theater vibe at times, and sometimes it reminds me of Red Hot Chili Peppers. Infinite Fire is kind of a Neal Morse-solo mini epic, and a very good one at that, it's worth it for just that song, but there's other good stuff. I don't think it's a perfect album, in fact, I'm not really into a couple of songs, but most of the material is fun music, and a nice mix of rock, pop, funk, prog, and fusion. Don't be turned off by the negative reviews and comments, those people are trying to hate on it, or hating on it because there isn't enough prog. BTW, Casey's vocals are no better or worse than Neal Morse's. (I particularly like Neal's vox.) ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm 
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:02
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Posted By: Gallifrey
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:04
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I really liked Casey's vocals, they're strong and help the heavier sections work better. I honestly don't care for the 'progness' level, because the melodies are good, the musicianship's good, so get over it. I don't think it's because of MacPherson's influence though. What if. The rest of the band actually wanted to make that style?? Or is that just an impossible thought. Be more open, people. ------------- http://thedarkthird.bandcamp.com/ |
Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:07
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I didn't expect anything from it, as indeed the vast majority of so-called "Supergroups". Good craftsmanship, but rather soulless. I find it as a kind of mix of Transatlantic, Deep Purple and maybe Them Crooked Vultures. Wait, Flying Colors aren't perhaps Prog?  ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:10
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Well, they're definitely full-on prog on the last track. I'm a sucker for slap bass, so Forever In A Daze is gold in my book. Blue Ocean has one of the best chorus' Ive heard in a long time. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:11
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From the comments here I am interested in hearing this. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:13
Just don't go into it expecting "The Whirlwind" or "What If", though it has its moments. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:16
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Well, just the "Blue Ocean" chorus are not much to brag about. I can name hundreds of songs from Yes, Queen, Gentle Giant, Kansas, Uriah Heep, etc., where its vocals are much better. ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:18
I HAVE read the comments here.  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:23
Agreed, but those all came out in the 70s, maybe 80s. I said the Blue Ocean chorus is one of the better chorus' Ive heard in a long time, meaning, best chorus in recent times; I feel many bands today struggle with coming up with good, catchy chorus' in their music. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:28
....So because you thought it was "awesome", we should get over it?? Get over what....do tell. -------------
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:55
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@Gallifrey- It was boring music. I listen to plenty of non-prog. Currently, listening to Clutch atm. Prog or not, I owuld have liked it if it had been interesting. It was rather lackluster and uninspired. It will proly grow on me as I digest all the various solos and instrumentation, but the songs themselves are dumb. Except Blue Ocean and Infinite Fire.
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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 14:00
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Not at all. After the initial shock that it wasn't overly proggy, I realized it was just a fantastic album!! ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 14:06
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I vote PR if at all for inclusion. They don't even have the small amount of prog required to be in x-over.
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 14:32
QUOTE=darkshade]
Agreed, but those all came out in the 70s, maybe 80s. I said the Blue Ocean chorus is one of the better chorus' Ive heard in a long time, meaning, best chorus in recent times; I feel many bands today struggle with coming up with good, catchy chorus' in their music. [/QUOTE] So, try anything from Von Hertzen Brothers and then judge. e.g. [ ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: Misomex777
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 14:42
Flying Colors? Are we referring to the Holding Pattern cd or just who or what? Help I dont get it!
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 14:44
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Flying Colors is a new supergroup with Steve Morse, Neal Morse, Mike Portnoy, Dave LaRue, and Casey McPherson from American Idol.
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Posted By: rupert
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 17:07
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"Flying Colours" is where I started losing my interest in... Chris de Burgh. How come a "Supergroup" of Prog Musicians name themselves after it ?Can it be anything else than a disappointment ? Sorry, haven't heard it yet but the name alone doesn't tempt me to ! Love Roop ------------- ...I'm a musician/singer/songwriter, visit me on www.reverbnation.com/rupertlenz and there you can choose from 125 recordings you can listen to ( for free ) if you're not limited to prog-rock ! |
Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 18:38
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Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 12:50
OMG!!!!! American Idol!!!!
Man did I get this all wrong! (Mainly becasue it was bollocks from the video and the songs I heard).
But Casey is from American Idol!
 I need to run out and buy this now!Everthing on American Idol is great! They have all the best music on that TV show!
Ok, seriously: Wikipedia has this:
"Casey grew up in Jones Creek, Texas where he was... classically trained on the piano for twelve years." (Sounds like somebody is exaggerating a little!
 )If he was classically trained on piano for 12 years, you would think even maybe a tiny bit of that would show up on the record? All I hear is tired 4/4 rock guitar strumming. Hmm, that's never been done before!... You guys like this? Fair enough, I love Elton John.
 But how is this considered even remotely original??? Where did the 12 years of classical training go?Don't tell me.... He is saving it for his next record!!!!
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 13:18
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No one said, either here or from the band, that they were trying to be original. Casey was hired to sing, not to play piano, that's what Neal is there for. And I didn't know he was from American Idol until a few days ago, and Ive known about this project since 2010. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 14:51
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Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 19:02
I knew it would suck  ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 19:13
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I swear that I read that he was a contestant on American Idol. I can't find anything regarding that now though, so maybe I was sniffing too much copier toner. -------------
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Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: March 29 2012 at 22:07
Dude, I knew your were messin with us after I googled him and found no such American Idol connection. Perhaps what you meant to say is that he would be the prefect candidate to be on American Idol... He is really cute and would look great in spandex. Oh, and the most important part, his music is perfectfor American Idol... |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: March 29 2012 at 22:09
I read that somewhere too, maybe DTF (Dream Theater Forums). You're not crazy  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: March 29 2012 at 22:15
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it's a great album- pity to those who don't like it! Listen to something else!
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Posted By: Siloportem
Date Posted: March 30 2012 at 02:57
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Have heard the one from the prog samplerand thought it sounded like Coldplay with more guitar solo's. But it's based on a first impression. It seems that a lot people here dislike it for being too pop. Dutch newsite nu.nl considers all of it 80s symphonic rock, although eclectic. And claims that the gentlemen can't write decent pop tunes. They didn't connect Casey to American idol either. Somehow I find this funny and sad at the same time. ------------- Thanks !! Your topics always so good and informative. I like you talk. |
Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: March 30 2012 at 09:06
Dude, if you like it, I a truly happy for you, because I think all of us are here to find music that makes us happy.
"Pity"???
Nope you don't need to pity me, because I find the new Flying Colors to be trite & contrived. To get a reference
from where I am coming from check out a "popish" record: Art In America - Art In America. It has quite short songs
and not much prog or extended soloing but it is brilliantly fresh, new & original(for its time, mind you.)
No pity for me needed, actually "jealousy" might be a better emotion for you, as I am currently blissfully
enjoying Gentle Giant - Free Hand 4.1 mix.
   You shouldn't be so sensitive about this release, and tell people if they don't like it, listen to something else
This is actually a progressive music forum.
I am not on other pop or altrock forums criticizing bands there. Flying Colors was promoted here in a prog forum, the music is about as prog as Green Day. You probably should realize that when a band promotes its music here in this forum and then delivers something that seems to belong in a different forum/genre it is quite reasonable for people to talk about that, as this is a prog forum!
I am delighted that you enjoy the release, but I would be quite curious to know how you felt about it in a year or so after
repeated listens.
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Posted By: catsclaw
Date Posted: April 01 2012 at 21:13
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I love prog rock. Lots of it. And though this isn't pure prog, there are parts. And the music is really good and well developed. It's a bit poppy, but I am guessing that a lot of the comments are from people that only had one listen-thru or only listened to amazon clips. The album doesn't suck. And it's very listenable. No. It's not Thick as a Brick (v1) or Lambs lie Down. It doesn't try to be. I wish people would get over their arrogance... No wonder other people don't like prog aficionados.....
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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: April 01 2012 at 21:54
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Loved most of the songs in it.
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Posted By: Slaughternalia
Date Posted: April 01 2012 at 22:15
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I like it more than any other work by Mike or Neal by far. It's kinda pleasant :) ------------- I'm so mad that you enjoy a certain combination of noises that I don't |
Posted By: snowsnow
Date Posted: April 02 2012 at 23:34
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I think it is a very enjoyable album - not great - but enough strong tracks to keep me very happy.
Particular favs - Blue ocean, Kayla, The storm, Everything changes & the nice little epic at the end, Infinite fire.
Getting plenty of spins from me - money well spent in my opinion.
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Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: April 03 2012 at 02:08
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From what I heard, this isn't actually that bad. And it's surprising to me, because I really, really don't like the other work of these musicians (particularly Neal and Portnoy). ------------- There be dragons |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: April 03 2012 at 06:01
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Posted By: frigate356
Date Posted: April 07 2012 at 16:24
| An "ASIA" moment for some fading Prog giants? Love the try before you buy options available on the net (torrents). Won't buy. Won't give it a second try, especially with the wide variety of great prog, new and old, available to occupy my grey matter. Not sure how it's progressive anything or that it should even be listed on "Prog" Archives. |
Posted By: Biff Tannen
Date Posted: April 09 2012 at 22:24
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Not at all. It's a very good record, with 8 songs out of 11 being very good to great, and I'll take that. I know there will be those (some in this thread already) who won't like it because it isn't proggy enough, but who gives a flying crap? Good music is good music, regardless of style. And this CD is mostly good music. ------------- "What are you looking at, butthead?" |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 09 2012 at 22:34
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Posted By: AlexDOM
Date Posted: April 10 2012 at 09:49
| I thought is was solid, lots of nice tunes. But the concluding piece Infinite Fire is a masterpiece! |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: April 10 2012 at 10:20
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I love the funky middle section in Infinite Fire, amidst the prog stuff. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: April 10 2012 at 10:59
You know Scott, your signature makes me want to buy a Ford just on the slight chance that something like that would show up at my door . . . a man can dream.
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Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: April 10 2012 at 11:07
Dude, it is a cartoon. Cartoons are not real. Just like people with catfish heads(that look similar to eel heads)
aren't real.
Nice Tux though.Plus, if she were real, she still has no nose. ------------- "Yeah, people are unhappy about that - but you know what, it's still Yes." - Chris Squire |
Posted By: VexusFlytrap
Date Posted: April 14 2012 at 12:49
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I always knew it was going to be a pop rock album. In fact, it was at the pop-rock section in the store where I bought it. Portnoy also said more or less how the album was going to sound like. This is like buying a "Lou Reed & Metallica" collaboration album while expecting a pure Metallica album. With this in mind, I loved it. I really hate it when people judge music by the amount of metal or prog it has.
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Posted By: zumacraig
Date Posted: April 23 2012 at 09:23
| this is about 1/3 good. it's all strong work and very alt.pop. i love the first 3 tunes and the last. it gets a bit samey in the middle and there's not much neal or steve showing. the songs where they all work their magic are excellent and infinite fire is pretty much worth the pricee of the cd. it's so cool to be hearing a basically good pop tune and then have a classic stever morse breakdown in the middle or a neal morse synth or beatlesesqe part. |
Posted By: infandous
Date Posted: May 01 2012 at 13:03
This is my impression after listening to it on progstreaming. I will not be buying it. It doesn't really suck, but it's not to my taste at all for the most part (aside from the last song, which sounds just like what you say). |
Posted By: The-Winkler
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 14:14
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Not at all, i think its great
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 07:07
| One or two duff tracks (e.g. Shoulda Coulda Woulda) but Blue Ocean and Kayla are great. It's not particularly prog, more suited to US radio I guess, but I like it. |
Posted By: FunkyM
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 22:51
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Just listening to the album now for the first time. I like it quite a bit. It is more mainstream than Transatlantic, obviously, but I highly doubt this will be getting airplay on modern rock radio. |
Posted By: FunkyM
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 22:54
Coldplay could use a few more guitar solos, IMO. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: May 05 2012 at 00:35
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Supergroups never disappoint me, I rarely expect too much of them. Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: Morsenator
Date Posted: May 06 2012 at 16:09
Not anything compared to TA etc. but some very very nice songs/parts, and it gets you on a good mood  And it seems to sound better every listen  Usually I don't really care much about anything that has been labeled as pop.------------- You love the music, the music loves you! http://moonsofjupiter.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - http://moonsofjupiter.bandcamp.com/ |
Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: May 08 2012 at 16:28
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It is a bit of a grower. I now enjoy about a third of the CD. I think it was just a case of picking up a Dr. Pepper and thinking it's a Coke, then spitting it out going," yuck, what is this sh*t", oh it's Dr Pepper, nm.
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Posted By: AlexDOM
Date Posted: May 08 2012 at 21:00
Ha ha ha ha:) Love that!
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: May 08 2012 at 22:12
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I listened to this album last night for the first time in probably a month. Infinite Fire, Blue Ocean, Forever In A Daze, and Everything Changes are the best songs IMO, but I feel like most of the album has aged well so far. A lot of the tunes are catchy, and there's some good riffs and melodies strewn about. I think there's only a couple tracks I don't care for too much, "Coulda Shoulda Woulda" and the one with Portnoy singing lead.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 15 2012 at 17:30
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I like it. I think it will grow on me more too. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: May 15 2012 at 17:36
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I liked it when I got it. After 3 listens, I became bored with it. I regretted buying it. Since last week, I have listened to it twice more, and it has grown on me a lot. I no longer regret buying it. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: AlexDOM
Date Posted: May 15 2012 at 21:04
= A sign of a good album...
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: May 15 2012 at 21:06
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I heard the album once. A few of the songs stunk, but other than that, it sounds like a great album. The bass and drums on that opening song are freaking fun, and if you don't think so, get out of my sandbox. Good melodies too. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: progtapper
Date Posted: May 17 2012 at 03:29
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I tried to listen to it on progstreaming but I failed to listen the whole album through. Like the cover art though.
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 17 2012 at 12:39
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Been listening to FC on Youtube. Sounds ok to me. Nothing mindblowing on first listen, but some elements of Spocks Beard and It Bites. Well, to my ears anyway. Probably will buy the album.
I'll vote when I've 'digested' it. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: spknoevl
Date Posted: May 17 2012 at 13:31
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Probably not a prog album, per se, but decent enough songs and excellent performances by all. ------------- http://martinwebb.bandcamp.com The notes are just an interesting way to get from one silence to the next - Mick Gooderick |
Posted By: gerdtheater
Date Posted: May 18 2012 at 21:08
A lot, beacause every project in which Portnoy participante is great, and this band really sucks! 
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