Most Cringeworthy moments in Prog History
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Topic: Most Cringeworthy moments in Prog History
Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Subject: Most Cringeworthy moments in Prog History
Date Posted: July 14 2005 at 15:41
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What were some moments in the history of prog that we'd like to forget? What album or concert did you hear that made you embarrassed to associate with the prog genre? The first thing that comes to my head is Rick Wakeman's ice capades thing... I mean really. how cheesy can you possibly get? any others? ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
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Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: July 14 2005 at 15:50
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i bet it was fun to watch though - I appreciate that he was willign to spend his own money just to put on a great show. ------------- 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 14 2005 at 15:52
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The genre itself is embarrasing enough! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: July 14 2005 at 15:56
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true that! but I do love it so... ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Snow Dog wrote:
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 14 2005 at 15:58
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.....thats right!Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: July 14 2005 at 16:24
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I think 'The Hare That Lost His Spectacles' in 'A Passion Play' is one of the most teeth grindingly awful things I've ever heard. Also, every ELP 'comedy' number, bar 'The Sheriff' which is tolerable, should never have been written at all. 'Rhapsodies' by Rick Wakeman is a real shock- there's a disco version of 'Rhapsody In Blue' and a reggae 'Swan Lake' called 'Swan Lager' (!)- the mind boggles.... |
Posted By: Mr Class & Qual
Date Posted: July 14 2005 at 16:49
Medieval passions plays were often extremely heavy thematically so in order to give the audience some respite from the subject matter the interval was often composed of a lighthearted sketch often comprising animal caricatures. This is the purpose of "The Hare..." on Jethro Tull's "Passion Play." |
Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: July 14 2005 at 16:52
wow. that's weird. kind of interesting, but silly to listen to. ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: July 14 2005 at 17:08
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By the way, Mr Class and Qual., nice avatar of one of the most underrated rock albums ever- 'Mad Shadows' by Mott The Hoople, which ranks higher than their glam rock work does for me. 'Who Dunnit' by Genesis is horrid too- definitely the worst song they ever recorded.
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Posted By: Jeremy Bender
Date Posted: July 14 2005 at 17:10
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I like all the comedy numbers of ELP....... I think they are great! It shows the versatility of the band.....after all the bombast they allways had some lightweighted songs. I don't think Yes or Pink Floyd(with the exception of Seamus) would do something like that. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: July 14 2005 at 18:42
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I Can't Dance. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to: 
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Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: July 14 2005 at 19:58
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I think ELP has quite a few to their credit. The line "every day a little sadder/a little madder/someone get me a ladder" from Still You Turn Me On, Emerson's attempt at composing a classical piece on Works Vol. 1 and... well... everything about Love Beach are all options that spring to mind. |
Posted By: laztraz
Date Posted: July 14 2005 at 20:51
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Posted By: Cluster One
Date Posted: July 14 2005 at 20:58
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'Whodunnit' is the winner for sure! 'Illegal Alien', 'Jesus He Knows Me' and 'I Can't Dance' earn honourable mentions. The middle-noodling part of KC's 'Moonchild' always raises my ire. 'Seamus' and 'Mademoiselle Nobs' from the FLOYD are notoriously bad. With 'Pow R Toc H' close behind. Many people hate 'Dogs of War' but I don't mind it (live that is....) ROGER WATERS' "Radio K.A.O.S." is tough to listen to. "Big Generator" by YES and parts of "Union" are horrid. And never was a big fan of ASIA, PRISM, SAGA and some STYX. (That 'Prog-Lite') kind of stuff  ------------- Marmalade...I like marmalade. |
Posted By: viperjr98
Date Posted: July 14 2005 at 21:10
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I guess I'm more new school than the rest of the posts so far, but for me it's no contest. "Get a Life" by Queensryche is a terrible terrible song. This from a band that until that moment had been one of my top 5 favorites. Don't get me wrong, I still like 'em, but that song almost single-handedly negated all the great work they had done to that point. Honorable mention goes to LaBrie's first Mullmuzzler album. I don't even remember what song it was, I just remember ripping the CD out of the player with the wife in the car laughing at it (and me) and I haven't played it since.
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 14 2005 at 21:13
Genesis- Acabab  And those frigging greats turning from  to and making me want to blow off their  Heads off.
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Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Date Posted: July 14 2005 at 21:15
| Anytime someone says Dark Side is Floyd's best album. That and when people aoutmaticlly sing "Iv'e seen all good people" when I try to talk about Yes. |
Posted By: Aerosol Grey
Date Posted: July 14 2005 at 21:35
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Those people need healthy doses of Meddle and Relayer ------------- Prog is the new punk, becuase kids who shop at Hot Topic don't know Bill Bruford is God. |
Posted By: boo boo
Date Posted: July 14 2005 at 23:19
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WHY?, it is their best album. |
Posted By: boo boo
Date Posted: July 14 2005 at 23:21
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whats wrong with pow r toc h?, i thought that was a great instrumental, i also liked seamus. |
Posted By: boo boo
Date Posted: July 14 2005 at 23:22
| and i dont think moonchild was that bad, i liked it, it could have been edited a little bit but its not bad at all. |
Posted By: Progbear
Date Posted: July 14 2005 at 23:40
| I seem to be the only one to remember Citadel’s performance at Progfest ’93. If ever there was a real-life, “prog” version of Spinal Tap... |
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: July 14 2005 at 23:42
the NEU! 2 album: what a stupid thing! ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: maani
Date Posted: July 14 2005 at 23:59
| One word: Starcastle. |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 00:51
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Asia ( excluding the debut---just ) I find extremely embarrassing! ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: iguana
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 05:13
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tales from topographic oceans. from then on it was
all a big downhill slide and it took one heck of a lot of re-invention to restore the genre's credilbility. i'll quote rick wakeman in that context: "oh, ferchrissakes, jon, you've read a bleedin sunday paper supplement article on yogananda's scriptures and already you're an expert, eh?" says it all, really... PS: i LOVE yes |
Posted By: Losendos
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 06:00
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Guys Great nominations here I thought " do you want to be the lover of another under cover you could even be the man on the moon " was the cringeworthy line from still you turn me on . The start of the waiting room is dreadful on what otherwise is the mother of all concept albums. I fear giving that abum to prog skeptics for that one track. Tales struck severe blows to Prog which thas never fully recovered and only with the rise of a new generation in the 90s has it somewhat risen again
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Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 06:45
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can't help agreeing with Chris Stacey and Cluster One: Asia sucks!!! I really don't understand why they are listed in the archives (and for quite a long time!!!) while great artists such as Daap Purple and Jon Lord are excluded! ------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
Posted By: Salmacis72
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 06:54
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...but features one of the best gatefold pictures. Wakeman flying!! I'd like to add: Yes - Man In The Moon (oh dear GOD what an awful song) ELP - the cover of Love Beach (and the music on Love Beach for that matter) - guys, you are not the Bee Gees. Genesis - Calling All Stations tour in North America cancelled due to lack of interest. This is the band that 10 years earlier sold out 5 nights in a row at the biggest cities. And finally, Neil Peart's rat tail in the Big Money video. ------------- 
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Posted By: Citanul
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 07:01
If you watch other Rush videos, you'll notice that Geddy also had some dodgy hairstyles. |
Posted By: spock84
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 07:02
Oh, bugger off.. They're better than Yes. So, Yes would be my answer. |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 07:07
Exactly! |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 07:09
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Explain? What's wrong with Dark Side?Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 07:11
Sorry Boo Boo, didn't see you already asked that question |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 07:24
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The beginning of "Teakbois" on Anderson Bruford Wakeman and Howe makes me cringe. Dare I mention Circus of Heaven? |
Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 08:29
I don't think it's that it's a bad album, it's just that there are better floyd albums. I like everyones nominations, great stuff! As for more cringeworthy moments, everyone's favorite band DT have had their share of course, including: -All rap passages on ToT -All the lyrics to 'Sacrificed Sons' -That silly middle section of A Change of Seasons with all the lame quotations -All of 'The Great Debate', or as I like to call it 'An Ode to Stupid Political Pundits' -Pretty much James LaBrie in general ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 08:33
| There've been some excellent suggestions here but really can anything match the horror of Wakeman's "King Aruthur on Ice"? Punk didn't contribute half as much to the decline of prog as that ill-concieved disaster. |
Posted By: Infinity
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 08:39
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- Styx - Black Moon by ELP - Chris Squire's get up in the 90125 era - Geddy Lee's hair on Hold Your Fire........and the Rap in Roll The Bones (but I like it)
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Posted By: Infinity
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 08:41
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Anyone heard teh self-titled Circus album (the one feat. Mel Collins - not the awesome band of the same name from Switzerland)
....what a load of PAP!!!
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Posted By: Infinity
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 08:43
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Richard Sinclair's vocals on Down On The Farm are pretty damn cringeworthy.....shame, good song, awesome intro, then in comes a hybrid of Billy Bragg and Billy from Eastenders.....Why didn't Mr. Latimer sing it!?
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 08:47
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So far I like everything here that everyone hates! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Drachen Theaker
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 08:53
"Decline of prog down to Wakeman ice horror", TP. I thought it was supposed to be Keith Emerson's fault!  ------------- "It's 1973, almost dinnertime and I'm 'aving 'oops!" - Gene Hunt |
Posted By: Infinity
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 08:55
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So how's the job at the cheese factory going anyway?
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Posted By: BiGi
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 08:56
Really? I find it pleasant...it's completely different from anything Yes has done before! I even used the lyrics from its chorus as my signature a few years ago! But then again, I'm one who digs Open your eyes ------------- A flower? 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 08:57
I don't work in a cheese factory. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 09:03
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Once again: |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 09:08
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Thank Odin. Someone who likes Open Your Eyes! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Now I feel less lonely!
Man in the Moon too! Great!Posted By: BiGi
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 09:16
I especially love the title track: IMHO it's the best song they've come up with after 90125 ------------- A flower?
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 09:21
My favourites
Love the crashing waves too with all the vocals returning! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Drachen Theaker
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 09:22
It's not me who thinks there's anything wrong with it Moogtron. As far as I'm concerned its amusingly Monty Pythonish and all part of prog's rich tapestry. After all it'd be bloody boring if everyone was like Roger (Mr Fun) Waters ------------- "It's 1973, almost dinnertime and I'm 'aving 'oops!" - Gene Hunt |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 09:27
That's only too true! Great that there's both a Wakeman and a Waters in prog. The happy extravaganza of mr. Wakeman and the down - to - the - core seriousness of mr. Waters. Long live prog for it's versatility! |
Posted By: Gloryscene
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 09:33
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There are too many cringeworthy points to recall all at once. The first one that springs to mind though is the majority of Squire's wardrobe throughout the era of 80's Yes!! ------------- "The Beautiful Ally Of Your Own Gravediggers" www.gloryscene.co.uk |
Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 09:39
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^but were the ice skates really necessary? ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Posted By: Drachen Theaker
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 09:58
I think skis might have been an improvement. Or sticking with the Monty Python theme, they could have used semaphore or an Aldis lamp. ------------- "It's 1973, almost dinnertime and I'm 'aving 'oops!" - Gene Hunt |
Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 10:03
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but how would he play the keyboard with all the flag-waving? ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Posted By: sorcerer
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 10:43
| Love Tull but have only been able to listen to the spectacles thing once - cringe. Genesis needed Gabriel, Gabriel needed Genesis, after the split - Cringe (though Peter was a bit more creative) - Cringe. Supertramp - CRINGE! |
Posted By: BiGi
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 11:44
I definitely agree! 
So let's establish the "Open Your Eyes" Appreciation Society!  ------------- A flower?
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 11:54
As a hardcore Python fan, how DARE you compare their brilliance to that horrific event? On the one hand we have inventive, witty and unique comedy, on the other a musical extravaganza that makes the works of Andrew Lloyd Webber look almost subtle and understated! Oh, and I'm not much of a Floyd fan. |
Posted By: BiGi
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 12:05
What is now wrong with Andrew Lloyd Webber's works? ------------- A flower?
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 13:00
You? Not a Floyd fan? Well, I could never have guessed Monthy Python's Ice Circus. Sounds bizarre enough to me...
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 13:02
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Posted By: Losendos
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 18:25
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I'll second the nomination for Starcastle as the most cringeworthy band Any starcastle fans here? ------------- How wonderful to be so profound |
Posted By: Losendos
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 18:26
------------- How wonderful to be so profound |
Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 19:25
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Yeah, well, I should have explained myself more. The reason I don't like the album that much is that I feel Wish You Were Here is a much better album because of Wright's more prominant role. I still think without him, Floyd would not be as great a band as they are. |
Posted By: DolphinFan
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 20:21
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Yeah, right here amigo. Love 'em. Also love YES. So where does that leave me? Starcastle is totally un-cringeworthy...except for some moments on their last album... Gentle Giant made me cringe with Betcha Thought We Wouldn't Do It (how right they were!) |
Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 20:33
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 20:36
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Leave the man alone! It's just his opinion! And what an opinion! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: moncholo
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 22:06
| illegal alien and i can't dance arent prog |
Posted By: Losendos
Date Posted: July 15 2005 at 23:07
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I'll second the nomination for Starcastle as the most cringeworthy band Any starcastle fans here? [/QUOTE] Yeah, right here amigo. Love 'em. Also love YES. So where does that leave me? Starcastle is totally un-cringeworthy...except for some moments on their last album...
Any non Americn starcastle fans ? ------------- How wonderful to be so profound |