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Topic: Cruelest Review
Posted By: Textbook
Subject: Cruelest Review
Date Posted: June 06 2012 at 16:07
Being a gigantic dick, few things tickle my funny bone more than a horrifically cruel review, particularly a single line or sentence that goes above or beyond the call of duty in expressing contempt for the artist or music in question. Kelly Clarkson, the original American Idol winner, originally studied to be a marine biologist before going on Idol and winning, abandoning her marine biology career. While she got better, her debut album Thank You was absolutely abysmal and I'll never forget Q's tagline for their review:
"Marine biology's loss was music's also." I once got a few emails after reviewing local star Brooke Frasier with "Boredom can't kill you, but you'll wish it could."
A memorable Souljah Boy review (there's a few of those) contained "If you gave me a choice between listening to this album or listening to you break wind, I would eagerly push my ear up against your anus and urge you to push."
There was quite a pile-on on Lana Del Ray the other day too, with Pitchfork calling the album "the musical equivalent of a faked orgasm" and New York Times really finishing her off with "People don't know what to do with this unformed thing they've been told they need to care about; crushing it is easy, almost humane." There's lots more of course (Lulu by Metallica could make its own pocket book) but I might dig them up later.
Any more?
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Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: June 06 2012 at 18:41
I don't know what magazine it was or who the reviewer was, but apparently there exists a review of the Howe/Hackett GTR album that consists of only "SHT"
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Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: June 06 2012 at 18:49
Shi* Sandwich?
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: June 06 2012 at 18:53
Textbook wrote:
A memorable Souljah Boy review (there's a few of those) contained "If you gave me a choice between listening to this album or listening to you break wind, I would eagerly push my ear up against your anus and urge you to push." |
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: June 06 2012 at 18:54
Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: June 06 2012 at 19:01
My Iron Maiden Final Frontier review was something like that. I lost my Prog Reviewer status over it.
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: June 06 2012 at 20:16
zravkapt wrote:
I don't know what magazine it was or who the reviewer was, but apparently there exists a review of the Howe/Hackett GTR album that consists of only "SHT"
| I've seen that! I think it was the Rolling Stone Record Guide. It said "TTL SHT"
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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: June 06 2012 at 20:44
Alitare: What did you say?
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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: June 06 2012 at 20:52
http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=294342" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=294342
Don't take it too seriously. I don't remember writing it. It sounds like I used to sound about a year or so ago, but It is a blur. My album reviews are typically much less focused.
I was listening to a great amount of Bill Hicks (of my own volition) and Spongebob (not of my own volition) and heavy metal (both of and not of my own volition). In normal situations I'd give it a 1/5, but I figured that wasn't necessary.
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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: June 06 2012 at 23:14
I wrote something pretty awful about Wobbler and Neal Morse, can't remember the details now. I've lost interest in reviewing things here anymore though.
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Posted By: AlexDOM
Date Posted: June 06 2012 at 23:21
What Lana Del Rey's album is amazing can't understand the bashing.
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Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: June 06 2012 at 23:38
Alitare wrote:
http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=294342" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=294342
Don't take it too seriously. I don't remember writing it. It sounds like I used to sound about a year or so ago, but It is a blur. My album reviews are typically much less focused.
I was listening to a great amount of Bill Hicks (of my own volition) and Spongebob (not of my own volition) and heavy metal (both of and not of my own volition). In normal situations I'd give it a 1/5, but I figured that wasn't necessary. |
That was pretty funny, well worthy of a prog reviewer, I think. You've gotta let loose sometime.
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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: June 07 2012 at 00:51
Textbook wrote:
I wrote something pretty awful about Wobbler and Neal Morse, can't remember the details now. I've lost interest in reviewing things here anymore though. |
Oh, I don't give a damn about reviewing here. I've written nearly 2,000 album reviews (from Bob Dylan to Overkill) and stored them on my portable hard drive. I write reviews as a sort of diary-with-a-purpose. I write whatever pops up inside my skull - usually revolving around music.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: June 07 2012 at 03:49
http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/movies/cage_schumacher_oughta_be_arrested_jxQnHjSPbrhs8sxTqOghgI" rel="nofollow -
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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: June 07 2012 at 04:53
One of my friends said Lana Del Rey's album was like a butterfly turning into a caterpillar.
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Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: June 07 2012 at 05:42
From the desk of Robert Christgau - that good old defender of all things proggy:
Tales from Topographic Oceans Nice "passages" here, as they say, but what flatulent quasisymphonies--the whole is definitely less than the sum of its parts, and some of the parts are pretty negligible. I mean, howcum they didn't choose to echo Graeco-Roman, Hebrew, and African culture as well as the lost Indian, Chinese, Central American, and Atlantean ones? Typical hyperromantic exoticism is one answer, and everybody would know they're full of sh*t is the other. C
Going for the One The title track may be their best ever, challenging a formula that even apologists are apologizing for by now with cutting hard rock guitar and lyrics in which Jon Anderson casts aspersions upon his own "cosmic mind." But even there you wish you could erase Rick Wakeman, who sticks strictly to organ pomp and ident noodles throughout, and elsewhere Steve Howe has almost as little to say. C
Nursery Cryme God's wounds! It's a "rock" version of the myth of Hermaphroditus! In quotes cos the organist and the (mime-influenced) vocalist have the drummer a little confused! Or maybe it's just the invocation to Old King Cole! C-
Foxtrot This band's defenders--fans of manual dexterity, aggregate IQ, "stagecraft," etc.--claim this as an improvement. And indeed, Tony Banks's organ crescendos are less totalistic, Steve Hackett's guitar is audible, and Peter Gabriel's lyrics take on medievalism, real-estate speculators, and the history of the world. This latter is the apparent subject of the 22:57-minute "Supper's Ready," which also suggests that Gabriel has a sense of humor and knows something about rock and roll. Don't expect me to get more specific, though--I never even cared what "Gates of Eden" "really meant." C
And Then There Were Three.... The departure of Peter Gabriel having long since left them a quartet, what might this title indicate? Ask ex-fan Jon Pareles: "Without lead guitarist Steve Hackett, the band loses its last remaining focal point; the rest is double-tracking. Hence a sound as mushy as the dread Moody Blues, with fewer excuses." D+
A Farewell to Kings
The most obnoxious band currently making a killing on the zonked teen circuit. Not to be confused with Mahogany Rush, who at least spare us the reactionary gentility. More like Angel. Or Kansas. Or a power-trio Uriah Heep, with vocals revved up an octave. Or two. D
In the Court of the Crimson King The plus is because Peter Townshend likes it. This can also be said of The Crazy World of Arthur Brown. Beware the forthcoming hype--this is ersatz sh*t. D+
Pictures from an Exhibition This cover version of Moussorgsky's mouldy oldie does have a big new beat, but you can't dance to it, and the instrumentation seems a bit spare. Anyway, the truth is that I don't even listen to the original much. D+
Trilogy The pomposities of Tarkus and the monstrosities of the Moussorgsky homage clinch it--these guys are as stupid as their most pretentious fans. Really, anybody who buys a record that divides a . . . composition called "The Endless Enigma" into two discrete parts deserves it. C-
Brain Salad Surgery Is this supposed to be a rebound because Pete Sinfield wrote the lyrics? Because Certified Classical Composer Alberto Ginastera--who gets royalties, after all--attests to their sensitivity on the jacket? Because the sound is so crystalline you can hear the gism as it drips off the microphone? C-
Nice The electric organ is an instrument of such vast and vague potential that its constant misuse is almost inevitable. One offender is Keith Emerson of the Nice, who has so much technical virtuosity he can quote Beethoven or somebody in the middle of a long Dave Brubeck cop. The only better indication of his level of taste is the whip he used to brandish as part of his Act. I don't know whether he still does this, because it is my practice to walk out after he starts his set with that horrible rondo. Lots of folks are impressed with Keith Emerson--Don Heckman reviewed this very record warmly in the Times--so I would like to designate the Nice Most Overrated Group This Side of the Moody Blues. Ugh. D+
Thick as a Brick Ian Anderson is the type of guy who'll tell you on one album that a whole side is one theme and then tell you on the next that the whole album is one song. The usual sh*t--rock (getting heavier), folk (getting feyer), classical (getting schlockier), flute (getting better because it has no choice), words. C-
If I Could Only Remember My Name This disgraceful performance inspires the first Consumer Guide Competition. The test: Rename David Crosby (he won't know the difference). The prize: One Byrds LP of your choice (he ought to know the difference). The catch: You have to beat my entries. Which are: Rocky Muzak, Roger Crosby, Vaughan Monroe. D-
On the Threshold of a Dream Rod McKuen out of Ray Conniff with assists by Hugo Montenegro and Bob Crewe. Ugh. D-
Asia The art-rock Foreigner is a find--rare that a big new group is bad enough to sink your teeth into any more. John Wetton and Steve Howe added excitement to contexts as pretentious as King Crimson and Yes, but this is just pompous--schlock in the grand manner, with synthesizers John Williams would love. And after listening to two lyrics about why they like their girlfriends, three about "surviving," and four about why they don't like their girlfriends, I'm ready for brain salad surgery. Inspirational Verse: "So many lines/You've heard them all/A lie is every one/From men who never understand your personality." C-
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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: June 07 2012 at 05:56
Robert Christgau is a genius. He perfectly trashed every album I like. Especially Queen's and King Crimson's ones.
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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: June 07 2012 at 06:22
I can't remember the name but there was an obsessive music bogger somewhere who did millions of classic rock reviews and really had a problem with Jethro Tull, was continually putting the boot into them something vicious... ring any bells with anyone? Dave Grohl on Nickelback: "I've heard that if you play a Nickelback song backwards, you hear messages from the devil. But worse, much much worse, if you play a Nickelback song forwards, you hear Nickelback."
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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: June 07 2012 at 06:23
I hate most of those records, too.
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 07 2012 at 09:02
an Alice in Chain member likes Nickelbeck and have even guested on stage with them
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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: June 07 2012 at 09:22
aginor wrote:
an Alice in Chain member likes Nickelbeck and have even guested on stage with them
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Yeah, and Tom Waits really digs Scarlet Johansen - doesn't mean I gotta give a damn.
Besides, AiC's career is as dead and staley as a piece of junkbread on some old forgotten city layne.
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: June 07 2012 at 13:46
Well, I guess that the French reviewers I used to read in metal magazines were far from being cruel.
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: June 07 2012 at 18:09
About ELP's 'pictures at an exhibition' you can read on the website gutsofdarkness (I translated from french) : "This, someone must explain to me. Filthy sound, arrangements to make you run away, out-of-date tones, more than questionable rendition... What do we really find in this farcial version of Mussorgsky's 'Pictures at an exhibition' ? Mussorgsky, whose first name is Modest, a first name the devilish trio should better have taken note of. The only merit of this record was without any doubt at that time to get the youngs interested in classical music. Looking back into it without forcing on the result, we laugh at it nowadays. No, we run away ! And to crown the whole thing, after this massacre in due form, they set up the scene with an encore "Nutrocker" that is more shameful than pitiful. To sum up, a complete flop, maybe maybe the most lousy record of symphonic prog rock of all times. Go for tomatoes."
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Posted By: silverpot
Date Posted: June 08 2012 at 15:34
Kurt Loder, of The Rolling Stone mag, wrote a pretty funny, but savage, review for Roger Waters' Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking in 1984. I wasn't able to find the whole thing, only this quotation:
“The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking suggests several things. First, that
the most important musical component of Pink Floyd is actually guitarist
David Gilmour (whose latest solo album assumes new luster in comparison
to this turkey). Second, that Waters should have a long session with
his therapist before making any future public utterances about the human
condition. And third, that even the most exalted English rock legend
shouldn’t try to sell swill to a public that’s demonstrably less piggish
than the pop star himself. Think Pink, Roger.”
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 09 2012 at 01:50
lucas wrote:
About ELP's 'pictures at an exhibition' you can read on the website gutsofdarkness (I translated from french) : "This, someone must explain to me. Filthy sound, arrangements to make you run away, out-of-date tones, more than questionable rendition... What do we really find in this farcial version of Mussorgsky's 'Pictures at an exhibition' ? Mussorgsky, whose first name is Modest, a first name the devilish trio should better have taken note of. The only merit of this record was without any doubt at that time to get the youngs interested in classical music. Looking back into it without forcing on the result, we laugh at it nowadays. No, we run away ! And to crown the whole thing, after this massacre in due form, they set up the scene with an encore "Nutrocker" that is more shameful than pitiful. To sum up, a complete flop, maybe maybe the most lousy record of symphonic prog rock of all times. Go for tomatoes." |
PAAE must be the easiest record to trash if you really want to. I hated it completely when I first bought it and even today I'm still not keen on the original album.
I stopped reading any 'professional' reviews of ELP albums about 35 years ago. As a fan they will just do your head in.Occasionally someone here writes a decent caustic review of an ELP album. Tony R's review of Works Volume One is one to check out
http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=38597" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=38597
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Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: June 09 2012 at 12:13
Another classic from Christgau:
You Never Know Who Your Friends Are Al Kooper is the only name performer in rock who can be counted on to release sh*tty records time after time. This is another one. D
And I LOVE that album....anything from Kooper's '67-'77 is top rate.
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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: June 09 2012 at 21:13
^ He can be amusing, true.
But I'd also argue that Christgau is easily one of the least successful reviewers ever - his work consistently lacks (useful) information, often fails to meet most generic requirements of a Review and at times approaches incoherence - and mostly because they aren't reviews but rather quips.
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Posted By: ProgSeeker
Date Posted: June 09 2012 at 22:39
zravkapt wrote:
I don't know what magazine it was or who the reviewer was, but apparently there exists a review of the Howe/Hackett GTR album that consists of only "SHT"
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This was the first one that came to mind for me as well. For some reason I thought it was Dave Marsh in Rolling Stone, but Wikipedia says otherwise:
"J.D. Considine's infamous review of the album (in Musician magazine[4]) read simply, "SHT".[5] (Considine later said it was the most famous thing he'd ever written in his three decades as a critic, while Hackett claimed the review actually helped sales of the album.)"
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Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: June 09 2012 at 23:16
Textbook wrote:
Dave Grohl on Nickelback: "I've heard that if you play a Nickelback song backwards, you hear messages from the devil. But worse, much much worse, if you play a Nickelback song forwards, you hear Nickelback." |
It's funny because IMHO Foo Fighters sound a tad similar to Nickelback.
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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: June 10 2012 at 08:59
frippism wrote:
Textbook wrote:
Dave Grohl on Nickelback: "I've heard that if you play a Nickelback song backwards, you hear messages from the devil. But worse, much much worse, if you play a Nickelback song forwards, you hear Nickelback." |
It's funny because IMHO Foo Fighters sound a tad similar to Nickelback. |
They're not worlds apart.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 10 2012 at 09:01
irrelevant wrote:
frippism wrote:
Textbook wrote:
Dave Grohl on Nickelback: "I've heard that if you play a Nickelback song backwards, you hear messages from the devil. But worse, much much worse, if you play a Nickelback song forwards, you hear Nickelback." |
It's funny because IMHO Foo Fighters sound a tad similar to Nickelback. |
They're not worlds apart. |
To me they don't sound similar. For one thing I like Foo Fighters but can't stand Nickelback
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 10 2012 at 09:20
The (in)famous and influential music critic Eduard Hanslick wrote about Tchaikovsky' D-major violin concerto: "This opus gives us the horrible idea there could be music you can hear stink".
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Posted By: FromAbove
Date Posted: June 10 2012 at 09:40
Intruder wrote:
From the desk of Robert Christgau - that good old defender of all things proggy:
Tales from Topographic Oceans
Nursery Cryme
Foxtrot
And Then There Were Three....
A Farewell to Kings
In the Court of the Crimson King
Pictures from an Exhibition
Brain Salad Surgery
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These were primarily why I stopped reading his stuff. As usual, he only provides reference to one or two songs max on the albums he hates. Doesn't really have enough justifications with those short reviews on the albums he dislikes.He's hilarious to read with his wit; but it took me a while to find out his distaste for prog, which was shortly after I had discovered prog.
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Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: June 10 2012 at 14:02
Snow Dog wrote:
To me they don't sound similar. For one thing I like Foo Fighters but can't stand Nickelback |
meh. Personally I don't have hate for neither, but can honestly not find one interesting aspect in neither.
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Posted By: KingCrInuYasha
Date Posted: August 30 2012 at 12:48
Robert Christgau on It's A Beautiful Day's self-titled debut:
"This is on the charts. Get it off."
Oh yeah, real informative buddy. I wouldn't be surprised if he and this article was the inspiration for that reviewer from This Is Spinal Tap who referred to the band's Shark Sandwich as simply Sandwich.
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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: August 30 2012 at 21:48
^ yeah, nice - I agree, I think Robert is easily the least useful 'professional' reviewer
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Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: August 30 2012 at 22:52
Massafat [Barbarity, 2004] Techno in Morocco, Morocco here ("Srir F'
Al Houbb," "Fine"). *** - Robert Christgau on a Bill Laswell album. What the hell? Wouldn't have been easier to just say 'it's fine' instead of some inchorent mess?
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: August 30 2012 at 23:33
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: August 30 2012 at 23:50
NO STARS EVER. Made the whole review even that much better.
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Posted By: Raccoon
Date Posted: August 31 2012 at 00:01
^ THAT was in a newspaper?? Explains Chris Brown's entire career. Funniest review ever.
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Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: August 31 2012 at 00:08
Triceratopsoil wrote:
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Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: August 31 2012 at 20:50
http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=144716" rel="nofollow - This one is a pleasure to read.
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Posted By: Chaosdruid
Date Posted: November 18 2013 at 15:17
silverpot wrote:
Kurt Loder, of The Rolling Stone mag, wrote a pretty funny, but savage, review for Roger Waters' Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking in 1984. I wasn't able to find the whole thing, only this quotation:
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It is on the WayBackMachine: http://web.archive.org/web/20080604134507/www.rollingstone.com/reviews/album/322060/review/5940693?utm_source=Rhapsody&utm_medium=CDreview" rel="nofollow - http://web.archive.org/web/20080604134507/www.rollingstone.com/reviews/album/322060/review/5940693?utm_source=Rhapsody&utm_medium=CDreview
But it must be said, Loder is a bit of a dick when it comes to Waters and Floyd ... he gave The Wall an "unrated" review, saying "Even Floydstarved devotees may not be sucked into The Wall's
relatively flat aural ambiance on first hearing. But when they finally
are — and then get a good look at that forbidding lyrical landscape —
they may wonder which way is out real fast."
Review of The Wall: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/the-wall-19800207" rel="nofollow - http://www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/the-wall-19800207
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Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: November 21 2013 at 17:05
http://rateyourmusic.com/~Mister_Blonde" rel="nofollow - This RYM user might suffice. While not over-the-top at all, something about his eviscerations of mediocre metal LPs just strikes me as sardonically hilarious. If you want more over-the-top hateful bile delivered in increasingly creative ways, http://rateyourmusic.com/collection/Timmay/reviews,ss.r.d" rel="nofollow - this gentleman off the same site is worth reading. (since he's an avowed Marxist he might be aspiring to become the next Theodor Adorno) Unfortunately, he doesn't post new reviews anywhere as often as he used to.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 21 2013 at 18:06
Only just seen this thread.
Alitare wrote:
My Iron Maiden Final Frontier review was something like that. I lost my Prog Reviewer status over it. |
Actually, he didn't lose his PR status over that review, but if that's what he believes then I'm not going to burst his bubble.
Luna wrote:
Shi* Sandwich? |
A three-track EP was once reviewed in Kerrang!! as - "like a sh_t sandwich, but with the sh_t on the outside."
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 21 2013 at 19:11
That's just nitpicking, innit.
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