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Topic: Greatest gem from a crap album
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Subject: Greatest gem from a crap album
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 10:23
Not necessarily crap but to me all these albums were huge disappointments. Well, with the exception that is the track represented in the poll. I know some of you love the albums these songs are originating from and that you even have other favorite tracks from them, but disagreeing and arguing is part of the fun. 



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Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 10:24
Other: "Masquerade" by Yes.

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 10:29
Although I really dig the rest of the album, I voted for Shrunken Heads. It stands out in Zombi's discog - mostly because it is the only underground trance track they've produced. I love it, and I actually think it is the best tune off the album.

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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 10:31
Oh, so easy for me from this list!

Adelbert Von Deyen's `Atmosphere'! It's from one of my all-time favourite albums (one of the few I love enough that I gave a 5 star review to it on the Archives!), and I truly find the whole album amazing! :)

So I'm standing up for that generally unloved LP!


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 10:58
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Although I really dig the rest of the album, I voted for Shrunken Heads. It stands out in Zombi's discog - mostly because it is the only underground trance track they've produced. I love it, and I actually think it is the best tune off the album.

I didn't know I dug underground trance. I only really enjoyed Shrunken Heads on Escape Velocity, but love the whole of Surface to Air.


Posted By: The Jester
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 10:59
I don't think that 'Changing Horses' by The Incredible String Band is a crappy album. And I really have no idea what this band is doing in this forum! Confused Together with 'Trees' of course!
But anyway, I voted for 'Creation' a song which I really love. If I had a second vote this would go to 'Murdoch' by the 'Trees'
P.S: Also, Grateful Dead? Seriously? LOL
Don't be offended or take it seriously, I'm just kidding of course! Beer


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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 11:08
^ I'm not the slightest bit offended. I love Creation, and think its a masterpiece of sorts. But the rest of the album does little for me. Calling these albums crap is me exaggerating a little for the dramatic effect.

- Both ISB and Trees are considered progressive-folk at PA. Grateful Dead isn't here (although they should), but the title track on Terrapin Station is surely prog?






Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 11:14
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:


Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Although I really dig the rest of the album, I voted for Shrunken Heads. It stands out in Zombi's discog - mostly because it is the only underground trance track they've produced. I love it, and I actually think it is the best tune off the album.

I didn't know I dug underground trance. I only really enjoyed Shrunken Heads on Escape Velocity, but love the whole of Surface to Air.



Yeah well I don't let myself get hung too much up on genres, but through recent years of partying with the underground electronic scene in Copenhagen I can safely say that this track lies very close to the music played at these events. Trance or not...

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Posted By: snowsnow
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 11:21
From your list I voted Tangerine Dream's effort. My own top three would be:
 
Yes - Machine Messiah - Drama
Gentle Giant - Memories of old days - The Missing piece
Spock's Beard - The light - The light


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 11:26
Another one where the album is rather meh, but holds a bonechillingly beautiful track, is The Enid's The Seed and the Sower. Last track Reverberations is by far my fave from the group and it is just so much better than everything else on the album. Damn I gotta go listen to it now!

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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 11:32
Voted for the Dead's Terrapin Station, though I'm unfamiliar with about half the songs on the list.  The Terrapin Station album isn't bad, but the title suite really takes an otherwise so-so album to another level, making it one of my preferred Dead albums overall.

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Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 11:52
Voted Cornonstipicum. But unlike you, I love the whole album.


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 11:52
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Another one where the album is rather meh, but holds a bonechillingly beautiful track, is The Enid's The Seed and the Sower. Last track Reverberations is by far my fave from the group and it is just so much better than everything else on the album. Damn I gotta go listen to it now!

Because I found them dead cheap I used to own both of Enid's two first albums. Didn't like any of them at all. Still worth investigating you think?
 

Originally posted by snowsnow snowsnow wrote:

From your list I voted Tangerine Dream's effort. My own top three would be:
 
Yes - Machine Messiah - Drama
Gentle Giant - Memories of old days - The Missing piece
Spock's Beard - The light - The light

Considered the two first, but dropped Machine Messiah based on quite enjoying most of Drama. And ditched Memories...because when I relistened to it I understood that while its my favorite song on The Missing Piece I still couldn't think of any track on Gentle Giant's first eight albums I didn't love more (except The Queen). 


Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 12:00
I have only heard one of these songs, but I just wanted to pop in and say Eliphas Levi (the person, not the song) is awesome.

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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 12:09
This may in fact be the first time I didn't vote for Magma in a poll.  (Which isn't to say I don't like the Magma song included here.)

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 12:24
Regarding Enid, you may well find something to like from their middle period as it is much more of an electronic approach than a straightforward symphonic. Seed and Sower as well as Tripping the Light Fantastic are both recommendable imo.

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Posted By: proggy
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 12:35
Mellow Candle and Hawkwind's Self Titled are hardly crap albums....Ermm


Posted By: apps79
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 12:43
''Alphataurus'' a crap?Shocked

you must be the only person in the forum to think that way about this album...


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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 12:58
^Its mainly the vocals that ruins it for me, though. 


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 13:00
Originally posted by proggy proggy wrote:

Mellow Candle and Hawkwind's Self Titled are hardly crap albums....Ermm

I think they both kinda suck. But I have to admit that Sheep Season is a pretty song.


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 13:49
I wouldn't call Alphataurus and Cyclone crap, they are both solid fours in my book. Voted for Madrigal Meridian, still in my top 10 of TD tracks.
 
As far as Drama can be counted among the crap albums (a matter of doubt to me), Does It Really Happen would be a good candidate as well.


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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 15:36
Does anyone even read anything before they post? The first thing I write is:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Not necessarily crap but to me all these albums were huge disappointments. 

Btw, Cyclone's one great track is a sidelong, so even I would rate it a three.


Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 15:51
True, but you also said:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

disagreeing and arguing is part of the fun. 


So there you are. Cool


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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 15:59
Well I would vote for Moonsongs, but that implies that I think that album is crap and I certainly don't.
 
 
I'll vote for Magma (though there are a fair number I don't know on the list)


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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 16:04
Voted for Hawkwind, even though the whole album is great.


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 16:09
Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Well I would vote for Moonsongs, but that implies that I think that album is crap and I certainly don't.
 
 
I'll vote for Magma (though there are a fair number I don't know on the list)

I was hoping people voted for the song they consider the best, but its your decision of course.


Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 16:49
In the Beginning from FGTR, although I don't classify the album as "crap" this is just about the only song I can make it through.Big smile


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 17:20
^I love plenty of songs on Genesis' debut.


Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 18:41
Just thought of one -- "All I Want is You", the leadoff track on LOVE BEACH is really nice (and only about 2 minutes long), but I can't handle much more from that album for very long.

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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 19:32
Klaatu, though the album is a production masterpiece and not CRAP!!!

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Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: August 27 2012 at 21:07
How did Moonsongs get in this poll??
I don't know any of the others, so I guess I can't vote.



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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: August 28 2012 at 00:20
How about The Soft Parade? I personally love that album though, opposed to a vast majority of people's opinions. Tell All People is another great tune on that album.

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 28 2012 at 01:11
Emerson,Lake and Powell - Mars, The Bringer Of War
 
the only musical reason for Powell to be on that album (other than having a good initial) was a chance to give Mars a proper work out. 


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 28 2012 at 01:55
Originally posted by infocat infocat wrote:

How did Moonsongs get in this poll??
I don't know any of the others, so I guess I can't vote.
Because I love that track (but didn't find much else I enjoyed on it). 

Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

How about The Soft Parade? I personally love that album though, opposed to a vast majority of people's opinions. Tell All People is another great tune on that album.

Oh, I kind of like that album, and don't mind the strings. I would be more tempted to choose Waiting For the Sun for the large amount of half assed  blues rock on Morrison Hotel, but there's a couple of more tracks I love there as well. 


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 28 2012 at 01:59
Originally posted by Wanorak Wanorak wrote:

Klaatu, though the album is a production masterpiece and not CRAP!!!

Ha-ha. Now  3:47 that's a two star album if I ever heard one. But maybe because to me there's no such thing as a "pruduction masterpiece". 


Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: August 28 2012 at 02:08

Voted Can. Unlike many fans I do like a lot of tracks from their post-Suzuki albums.



Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 28 2012 at 02:24
^I love Soon over Babaluma and Landed much as the preceding albums, and also like Flow Motion a lot. But to me the 15 minutes of Animal Waves saves Saw Delight from being throwaway. 


Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: August 28 2012 at 05:40
Glad to see no one has voted for the Carmen song as I love that album.

One for me is the never mentioned Taxi Grab from Tull's worst 70s album "Too Old to Rock'n Roll......"

Taxi Grab is the standout track very very exceptional from an album that was very very ordinary.

Oh and in relation to the Missing Piece by GG....For Nobody is my favourite GG track ever......full stop.

So there are at least 2 great songs on that album.


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 28 2012 at 06:19
Originally posted by BarryGlibb BarryGlibb wrote:

Glad to see no one has voted for the Carmen song as I love that album.


Ops! Fixed. I lost the first poll I made (it timed out because I spent too much time, or something), so remaking it went a lttle fast. Its their follow up I found crappy. And the only highlight is pretty much a copy of Bulerias, but an awesome one.    


Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: August 28 2012 at 16:52
Originally posted by BarryGlibb BarryGlibb wrote:

Glad to see no one has voted for the Carmen song as I love that album.

One for me is the never mentioned Taxi Grab from Tull's worst 70s album "Too Old to Rock'n Roll......"

Taxi Grab is the standout track very very exceptional from an album that was very very ordinary.
 
I second that. My least favorite Tull album from the 70s, but in addition to "Taxi Grab", "Salamander" is a stellar acoustic song. The rest? Meh.


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: August 28 2012 at 16:57
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:


Originally posted by BarryGlibb BarryGlibb wrote:

Glad to see no one has voted for the Carmen song as I love that album.

Ops! Fixed. I lost the first poll I made (it timed out because I spent too much time, or something), so remaking it went a lttle fast. Its their follow up I found crappy. And the only highlight is pretty much a copy of Bulerias, but an awesome one.    



Ahh snap!
Love both of those, and I actually see them as a double album sadly separated at birth. Feels very much like brothers to these ears. One of those rare cases, where I'd give each of them 4 stars but together as a whole 5.

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Posted By: skorziks
Date Posted: August 28 2012 at 19:43
Grateful Dead - Terrapin Station.

I find this to be the most "progressive" song from the Dead (as defined by traditional standards).


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Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: August 28 2012 at 20:22
I'm tempted to say The Musical Box, but I also love Hogweed.

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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 29 2012 at 01:19
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:


Originally posted by BarryGlibb BarryGlibb wrote:

Glad to see no one has voted for the Carmen song as I love that album.

Ops! Fixed. I lost the first poll I made (it timed out because I spent too much time, or something), so remaking it went a lttle fast. Its their follow up I found crappy. And the only highlight is pretty much a copy of Bulerias, but an awesome one.    

Ahh snap!
Love both of those, and I actually see them as a double album sadly separated at birth. Feels very much like brothers to these ears. One of those rare cases, where I'd give each of them 4 stars but together as a whole 5.

Interesting. Maybe my 3.5 & 2.5 star will end up as a 5 if I think of them as a double.


Posted By: zoviet
Date Posted: August 29 2012 at 03:10
hehehe i cant agree that Cyclone and Saw Delight are crap albums but the tracks listed are class


Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: August 29 2012 at 05:45
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:


Originally posted by BarryGlibb BarryGlibb wrote:

Glad to see no one has voted for the Carmen song as I love that album.

Ops! Fixed. I lost the first poll I made (it timed out because I spent too much time, or something), so remaking it went a lttle fast. Its their follow up I found crappy. And the only highlight is pretty much a copy of Bulerias, but an awesome one.    



Ahh snap!
Love both of those, and I actually see them as a double album sadly separated at birth. Feels very much like brothers to these ears. One of those rare cases, where I'd give each of them 4 stars but together as a whole 5.

IMHO Dancing on a Cold Wind, the follow up album to Fandangos In Space, is a far superior offering than its predecessor.

It gives me goose bumps. 

Everyone please acquire the 3 Carmen albums. They are All fantastic.


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 29 2012 at 06:00
^Really? Oh well, I guess Flamenco-prog simply isn't my bag.


Posted By: Morsenator
Date Posted: August 29 2012 at 06:45
I'd say The Lake by Mike Oldfield, a very nice often forgotten track. The rest of the album is hardly worth listening, if you're not a huge fan of 80s pop.

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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 29 2012 at 16:55
^But you found nothing to vote for in the poll?

I'm a huge fan of 80's pop, btw. But only the good stuff.


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 29 2012 at 17:18
I went with Terrapin although I don't think it was a total crap album.  Dancing In The Streets was very cringe worthy. 

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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 29 2012 at 17:32
^Yep. I do remember a half nice song on the A-side too but I can't remember which one.



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