Tony Banks or Rick Wakeman
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Topic: Tony Banks or Rick Wakeman
Posted By: brainstormer
Subject: Tony Banks or Rick Wakeman
Date Posted: May 27 2013 at 18:43
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I realize Banks doesn't have a huge solo album career, but both are obvious responsible for much. ------------- -- Robert Pearson Regenerative Music http://www.regenerativemusic.net Telical Books http://www.telicalbooks.com ParaMind Brainstorming Software http://www.paramind.net |
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: May 27 2013 at 18:52
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Posted By: Mr. Mustard
Date Posted: May 27 2013 at 19:03
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Technically and virtuosically speaking Wakeman probably has the edge. But in my opinion Banks was a MUCH better composer and played more tastefully. Some of Yes's best work wasn't even written by Wakeman (Relayer, Yes Album). I don't really care for either's solo work so I can't really compare. ------------- 
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: May 27 2013 at 19:13
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True; Rick is a bit more show-offy whereas Tony is more about what fits the best
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: May 27 2013 at 19:17
Yea this ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Mr. Mustard wrote:Posted By: Floyd Steely
Date Posted: May 27 2013 at 19:18
| Wakeman cuz I like his books. |
Posted By: Neo-Romantic
Date Posted: May 27 2013 at 19:22
| Tony Banks is my favorite keyboardist. I love his playing. I've never been too keen on Wakeman. Patrick Moraz is my favorite Yes keyboardist. Only took one album for him to effectively displace Wakeman in my book. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: May 27 2013 at 19:23
| Wakeman, easily, both with Yes and solo. Though of course, Tony is really cool too. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: May 27 2013 at 19:49
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Tough choice for me.....I like their work in both bands. Wakeman for solo.
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: May 27 2013 at 20:49
| Banks is my favorite overall prog keyboardist, always tasteful---so Tony--but Rick did some great solo's and really great--interesting work on Fragile, CTTE and GFTO. |
Posted By: brainstormer
Date Posted: May 27 2013 at 21:08
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I find Banks interesting and able to create some beautiful melodies but his music doesn't have the power for me of Wakeman's. Esp Six Wives and Criminal Record, and Rick's contributions to Yes are pretty much all his own, I'm sure. I find many other treasures also in Wakeman's solo output. Not sure how much of the piano writing itself of Morning Has Broken was original from Rick, but that's a pretty major achievement, as well. ------------- -- Robert Pearson Regenerative Music http://www.regenerativemusic.net Telical Books http://www.telicalbooks.com ParaMind Brainstorming Software http://www.paramind.net |
Posted By: fudgenuts64
Date Posted: May 27 2013 at 23:02
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Tony Banks, for certain.
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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: May 27 2013 at 23:18
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Banks is clearly the better songwriter and composer, and a great keyboardist, but Wakeman has such grace and panache in his playing I just have to give him my vote. ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 27 2013 at 23:44
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Wakeman, of course. ------------- Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half. My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com |
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: May 28 2013 at 00:12
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Wakeman is definately more technical, but Banks really knows how to just make a song sound flat out great!! Sometimes the simple approach really works. ------------- Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣 |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: May 28 2013 at 00:20
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Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: May 28 2013 at 00:39
| Mr. Banks |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 28 2013 at 01:40
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Depends from what perspective you are looking Technical - very close run thing ,didn't Keith Emerson say Banks was the best? Composition - Six Wives is amazing but is to Rick what The Planets Suite is to Holst. I do like Criminal Record and other Wakemen albums but none of them are masterpeices like Six Wives. Banks has never recorded a bravura work such as that Working within a band - Banks easily. well he was 'Mr Genesis'. Wakeman joined an established band and was the cherry on top of the icing on top of the cake. Suddenly Yes could challenge ELP on their own ground. Live performance - Banks nails it every time but rarely varies from pre-rehearsed solos. Could phone in his performance most of the time. Wakeman is prepared to improvise much like Emerson. I make it a 2-2- draw  |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: May 28 2013 at 03:52
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In the band context, Banks. He's technically very good and he fits into the band better than Wakeman.
Solo work; Wakeman did one brilliant album then lost it, but Banks did nothing of real merit.
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: May 28 2013 at 03:54
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Tony Banks gets my vote! |
Posted By: antonyus
Date Posted: May 28 2013 at 04:24
| old grumpy Rick ! |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: May 28 2013 at 04:34
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I like them both, but I choose Tony. He's such a good composer, and though no virtuoso, the notes he uses are often quite effective. I like most of his solo albums too. Not too crazy about quite some compositions I heard from Rick. I suppose he's a better player than composer, but Journey and Criminal Record have some outstanding compositions. He's a wonderful player overall. But I choose Tony.
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: May 28 2013 at 05:09
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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: May 28 2013 at 07:00
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Overall, Banks has the win. But you can't beat Wakeman's "flair"!
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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: May 28 2013 at 07:33
| Banks for me, he has more subtle musicality, his choices for shifting keys and scales are wonderful. All my respect to grumpy Rick in any case! |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: May 28 2013 at 07:34
| This is very close for me, since I enjoy both of them a lot. Quite different styles, but excellent overall, so it's quite hard to make a choice. No vote. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 28 2013 at 07:43
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Wakeman is a far better and talented keyboard player. I choose Sir Rick. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 28 2013 at 07:50
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Banks. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: May 28 2013 at 10:03
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Rick Wakeman, of course. ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: May 28 2013 at 11:42
^ this This is a fascinating question because in many ways, they're opposites: 1) Banks is more of a meat-and-potatos player who supports the song Wakeman is better from a technical standpoint and more flash 2) Banks seemed to favor organ and polysynth Wakeman favored piano 3) Banks' solo's were usually played on an ARP Pro Soloist Wakeman favored the Mini-Moog 4) Wakeman is a hilarious guy you'd want to hang out with Banks is an upper class twit, but I voted for him anyway  ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: May 28 2013 at 12:02
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Six Wives of Rick
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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: May 28 2013 at 13:08
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Personally, I can't stand most of Wakeman's solo albums; they are often quite cheesy and he can't select a good vocalist to save his life(IMO)!! ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: May 28 2013 at 13:43
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 28 2013 at 13:58
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: May 28 2013 at 14:13
I do like Wakeman's ability to improvise, or make some twists to the songs he is playing, adding something and so on, just like the extra keyboard solo he added to "Starship Trooper" on Keys to Ascension... he just made the Wurm section his own as much as it's Howe's; and of course, he would do this kind of things with his own songs on his own shows. Another nice thing about him, is that he usually plays his songs with the musicians he has available, without using recordings to fill out the sound, which might have been a temptation with songs from albums such as Journey and Arthur that use lots of orchestrations and choirs, and really, those songs sound usually sound perfect anyway. |
Posted By: brainstormer
Date Posted: May 28 2013 at 15:10
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Hey, we need to post this poll over at Yesworld.... ------------- -- Robert Pearson Regenerative Music http://www.regenerativemusic.net Telical Books http://www.telicalbooks.com ParaMind Brainstorming Software http://www.paramind.net |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: May 28 2013 at 15:40
If it counts for anything, I prefer Rick's 'Silent Nights' over Banks' 'A Curious Feeling'.............
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: May 28 2013 at 16:16
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Rick is funnier ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: May 28 2013 at 16:27
Good point. Banks is my favourite lead synthesizer player. Emo & Wakeman could improvise circles around him but Banks' solos are well thought out mini-compositions. The best example I've found is the synth solo from "In The Cage". I learned to play it along with the backing organ chords a few months ago and it's a master class in how to build a solo melody on top of a harmonic background. Genius. ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: Josef_K
Date Posted: May 28 2013 at 18:56
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Rick Wakeman was a favorite of mine for some time but I really keep discovering how much I've overrated him... He is a great player and sometimes even a good composer (I love the "Arthur" album) and of course his playing on my all-time favorite album Tales from Topographic Oceans is beyond stunning. Still I can't help how easy he was replaced by Patrick Moraz for me, he really wasn't that essential for the Yes sound as it seemed while he was in the band. Tony Banks is more of a composer and less of a player, which I guess I like more because I think of myself that way. And this is one hell of a composer, the crimson king mentioned the In the Cage solo, I'd like to add one of my all-time favorite songs "The Lamia" to the list of masterful Banks compositions, of course among many others (Watcher of the Skies intro anyone?). So yeah, Banks really is more interesting as a whole when compared to Wakeman, he seems to connect with his own music on a deeper level than Wakeman does, at least in a way more similar with how I connect with my music. So in the end I'd vote for Banks I guess. ------------- Leave the past to burn, At least that's been his own - Peter Hammill |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: May 28 2013 at 19:59
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Mister Banks ------------- |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 29 2013 at 01:17
The solo on the apocalypse section is probably his pinnacle. How often has that been ripped off by neo prog bands??! Banks is a genius as a composer really. Wakeman though was the ultimate prog keyboard player and a master on synth, hammond,church organ, mellotron and piano. Still not sure who I want to vote for.. this is just way too tough.
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: May 29 2013 at 01:44
It depends on what you think is most important, I suppose: composition vs. playing. That's a personal choice. I chose Banks myself because for me good compositions comes first. (Emerson was both a brilliant composer and a brilliant player)
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Posted By: sukmytoe
Date Posted: May 29 2013 at 02:02
| I love the Genesis early period a lot more than I do the Yes earlier period (except for the Relayer album which is up there with the best - and Wakeman wasn't involved with Relayer). Looking at both artists I have to go with Rick Wakeman and my resoning for that is comparrison between Banks and Wakeman solo efforts. Banks never did anything like the Journey to the Centre of the Earth album or anything that could compare to any of the early Wakeman albums in scope or in ability. I also wonder how much of what Banks is credited with in Genesis inspiration wise came from him as opposed to how much came from the other Genesis members - looking at his solo albums which are uninspired for the main part I can guess at the answer to that. I also wonder, after watching a large number of interviews of the Genesis band members, who was ultimately responsible for the direction which Genesis took with their later output - many "blame" Collins for what happened however I think that Banks was the "culprit" and not Collins. I lay the demise of the old, loved, sound of Genesis when they changed direction fully on Banks's doorstep as I also lay the "blame" for the departure of Gabriel and then Hackett. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 29 2013 at 04:06
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All around I have to give it to Rick as Banks has only done one good solo album.
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Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: May 29 2013 at 04:36
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Banks isn't up there with my fave keyboardist's. Maybe it's because I find genesis a bit dainty and odd. Some weird compositions and lyrics which just feel a bit off centre to me ------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 29 2013 at 13:55
Agree on Emerson although I think he was able to avoid just sticking anything out for the sake of it like Rick seems to have done over the years. Wakeman has something like 100+ solo albums releases which is plain madness imo. Even Vangelis is only up to 30 odd But that Six Wives album throws a major spanner into the works. Emerson nor Banks ever matched that for sheer nail on the head brilliance but Rick could never quite follow it in my mind. It was perhaps just too good. I have to ask myself who has given me the most pleasure and raised a smile over the years. I guess has to be Rick and also I prefer early Yes (pre Relayer) to early Genesis. So my vote is for King Rick.
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Posted By: NickHall
Date Posted: May 29 2013 at 15:47
| Wakeman way ahead of Banks in technical ability. |
Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: May 29 2013 at 16:14
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Wakeman on technical ability and his solo work. BUT... I like Banks more because he does some dang good melodic work and compositions. :D ------------- http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/ wtf |
Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: May 29 2013 at 17:07
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 29 2013 at 17:59
Also voted for Rick. I do think Rick matched Six Wives with Criminal Record. Both are stupendous forays into keyboard-propelled instrumental prog. I consider both to be essential recordings even for Wakeman-haters. I think Tony is a great composer even if he doesn't match Rick's, Keith's and Patrick's technical capabilities. Tony's Soundtracks (with music from Quicksilver and Lorca & The Outlaws) shows him in a non-songwriter context apart from two great songs sung by Fish and Toyah (and one lousy song sung by somebody whose name I don't care to look up). ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 30 2013 at 01:51
Criminal Record certainly has some great dynamics on the 'ELP tracks' (Wakeman,Squire and White) and Judas Iscariot is rather goosebumpingly wonderfull at times but on the whole it feels like an incomplete package somehow ( and you have to to ignore The Breathalyser ). However that was the closest he got to repeating the brilliance of Six Wives before financial and health issues perhaps started to overtake him.
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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: May 30 2013 at 03:17
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Banks Genesis work, A Curious Feeling and Strictly Inc, his classical releases - incredible stuff Wakeman - Work with Strawbs ( From The Witchwood), Yes ( what can one say.....) his solo albums, 6 Wives, Journey To The Center, Knights of King Arthur, the awesome No Earthly Connection I'd have to say they are each masters in their own way, totally different personalities ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: brainstormer
Date Posted: May 30 2013 at 14:17
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Yes, the more I look at this poll, the more I realize it's not ever to say one is good and one is bad. I am just interested in why people would do a desert island selection of either guy's work. ------------- -- Robert Pearson Regenerative Music http://www.regenerativemusic.net Telical Books http://www.telicalbooks.com ParaMind Brainstorming Software http://www.paramind.net |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: May 30 2013 at 16:07
For me, the song Fish sings on "Still" (Another Murder of a Day) is the highlight of Banks song based solo work. I like most of "A Curious Feeling" instrumentally but have never really liked vocalist Kim Beacon's style. Too bad Fish couldn't have sung on that album too ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: May 30 2013 at 18:29
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The votes speak volume 30/30. Both as good as each other from PA members so far ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: May 30 2013 at 19:08
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Tony Banks in a band Rick Wakeman as solo artist Bioth are in the same level for different situatiions. Iván
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Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: May 30 2013 at 20:07
| Tony Banks. Not just the tasty melodies, he new how to use timbre to fit both the content and the mood a song was trying to convey. Hmm..I would say the same about Hackett, actually. |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: May 31 2013 at 06:26
Wakeman came up with that massive cascading church organ/moog section of 'Awaken' - beat that, Tony 
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 31 2013 at 08:53
I've read that Genesis used to skip the piano intro of "Firth of Fifth" because Banks couldn't play it live. I don't know whether this is true or not, although I doubt it as the keyboard player from tribute band Los Endos has no trouble playing it. Wakeman is technically better but doesn't always pick the best keyboard sounds. I'm going to go for Wakeman for the glorious church organ section of "Close To The Edge" and the instrumental section of "And You And I".
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: May 31 2013 at 14:17
I had read something similar about the intro to Firth of Fifth... but I think it had more to do with him not being able to find the right sound on his keyboards in order to play that, though I'm not really sure. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 02:32
| I saw a Genesis tribute band mess up that intro a few years back. They had to stop and go again. Obviously it's very tricky but on the flipside of the coin also shows what a great composer Banks is. |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 10:41
I doubt it's because he couldn't play it because he always played the interlude anyway, which is a repetition of the intro. Yeah, it's probably the tone or something like that. |
Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 11:57
Slightly disappointed not to hear the intro at a recent Hackett show. And I know Roger King can play it, because I've seen it on a Hackett video. ------------- -- Frank Swarbrick Belief is not Truth. |
Posted By: resurrection
Date Posted: June 02 2013 at 01:43
| I really don't like comparisons between fine musicians, in the end, it's all down to personal taste, but if I must choose, I would say Rick, because of virtuoso technique. |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: June 02 2013 at 08:31
I seriously doubt it too---Hackett's band often skips the intro and I think like Genesis it is long and I think it was more a time saving measure in a long live concert rather than a difficult thing to play---Lamb Lies down Intro is also difficult but he always played it live---
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 02 2013 at 08:40
They played the intro when I saw them a few weeks ago.  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: VOTOMS
Date Posted: June 02 2013 at 09:24
| Banks! |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: June 04 2013 at 04:48
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Wakeman. Because of the capes. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: June 04 2013 at 06:04
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Of course, Wakeman was an incredibly ambitious individual who created such an incredibly over-the-top work as 'Journey To The Centre Of The Earth'. It would never have worked without the over-blown pomposity. This is the very essence of Prog which, a) summed it all up, and b) gave it a bad name......... Rick nailed it, either way and both ways. Too much talent can be friend or foe..................
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Posted By: jacek1969
Date Posted: June 11 2013 at 11:20
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Rick Wakeman
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: June 11 2013 at 19:50
More folks need to discover Rick's 'Silent Nights' album - such an overlooked and underappreciated album - on the surface it's poppy, but below shows a certain mastery of blending accessibility with prog chops and subtle complexities. It also features one of the better vocalists (Gordon Neville) to grace a Wakeman album 
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Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: June 11 2013 at 22:51
Cool Tom. Sounds really interesting. Loving keyboardist solo projects lately. Love Micheal Pinella's solo work from symphony x. Oh and just recently purchased Clive Nolan's ALCHEMY album. Look forward to getting that one. Actually. Come to think of it. I'd choose Clive Nolan over Wakemen and Banks. :) ------------- Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣 |
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: June 11 2013 at 23:17
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Banks by far. He was all about style and selective playing, something Wakeman could never do. To be quite honest, Wakeman's style is just way too over the top, at least for me anyways. Mind you, I haven't listened to these guys in such a long time, my tastes have changed, so probably my opinion has too. ------------- 
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Posted By: Dr. Occulator
Date Posted: June 12 2013 at 17:30
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I enjoy both keyboardists immensely. They each have their own definitive style and have contributed greatly to progressive rock. My vote goes to Wakeman because I feel though both are musical equals, Wakeman generated a showmanship that epitomized the grandeur and maybe over indulgence of prog. He was much more of an ambassador for prog than Banks ever was. Most people would not even recognize a picture of Banks but few prog fans or general music lovers would not recognize the man with the long blond hair and flowing cape. The image & musicality Wakeman brought was 'instrumental' (pun intended) in bringing prog to the uninitiated. ------------- My Doc Told Me I Have Doggie Head. |
Posted By: DiamondDog
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 04:12
| Again a contest of taste versus technique; though Rick can be tasteful too at times. Rick for me. |
Posted By: Green Shield Stamp
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 15:54
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Rick Wakeman. His vast solo collection, albeit patchy, contains some real gems. Also he is a great bloke whereas Tony Banks is a bit pompous. ------------- Haiku Writing a poem With seventeen syllables Is very diffic.... |
Posted By: brainstormer
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 19:15
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Rick Wakeman is a big celebrity in the UK for non-musical things.. That's a pretty unique position among proggers. Can you think of any others? I wonder in the non-English European countries....I think maybe someone in France is also like that that was also from prog.
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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 19:38
What kind of things does Rick do on TV there? ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: brainstormer
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 19:44
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He's done a cooking show, stand up comedy, was part of a team called Grumpy Old Men, I'm not sure of all of it because unfortunately haven't spent much time there. ------------- -- Robert Pearson Regenerative Music http://www.regenerativemusic.net Telical Books http://www.telicalbooks.com ParaMind Brainstorming Software http://www.paramind.net |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 20:11
This doesn't surprise me...anyone who can eat Chinese takeout while performing "Tales From Topographic Oceans" has a bright future in stand up comedy ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 15 2013 at 10:42
| Rick's also on the BBC programme Watchdog which is a consumer affairs show. He doesn't present it though just does the occasional outside report. He also had his own show on Planet Rock radio but that finished about a year or so ago. |
Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: June 15 2013 at 12:24
I have read that originally he played the intro but it was eventually dropped (although I have not heard any live version with it). I believe that he could play it, he has some other technically difficult passages in their usual repertoire and he never seems to be sloppy, I guess it was more a matter of time-saving or because he did not like the sound of it on electric piano (although this argument was only valid in the 70's / 80's until good synths / samplers started to produce decent grand piano emulations). "Banks would not take his entire rig with him on tour, but did take most of it. Taking a grand piano on tour was not practical, so those parts on the albums were played on the electric piano. (Before it was dropped, for example, the "Firth of Fifth" intro was played on the electric piano.)" http://genesislive.ning.com/group/equipment/forum/topics/1982628:Topic:36382" rel="nofollow - http://genesislive.ning.com/group/equipment/forum/topics/1982628:Topic:36382 |
Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: June 15 2013 at 12:38
I'l go for the best of both worlds, Rick Banksman  |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: June 15 2013 at 19:17
A fascinating thought...Tony Banks compositional mind with Rick Wakeman's dexterity. ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: June 15 2013 at 19:44
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Hey. This could work. ^ Rick banksman. ------------- Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣 |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 16 2013 at 05:49
as long as its that way round reminds me of Tony Curtis explaining that he was glad that his daughter Jamie - Lee had inherited his brains and his mothers looks
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Posted By: Trane
Date Posted: July 10 2013 at 18:22
| Hands down it's Wakeman. While Banks has made extraordinary contributions to great pieces of work, he's lazy. Never pushed boundaries nor exposed us to more than being a keyboard player in a band. Quite a disappointment. |
Posted By: maani
Date Posted: July 10 2013 at 18:29
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I didn't vote (I'm completely torn here), but I am both amazed and encouraged to see that, as of this writing, they are tied. They (and, of course, Emerson) were both so critical to the success of progressive music. Peace. |
Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: July 10 2013 at 21:41
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Posted By: AngleofRepose
Date Posted: July 17 2013 at 06:06
| ^^ ha, yeah. I've seen this poll more than a few times. i still seem to be voting though... |
Posted By: Josef_K
Date Posted: July 17 2013 at 06:41
You do know he's also writing for orchestras and stuff right? Not that I've heard those albums, but they do exist, he is most certainly more than a keyboard player in a band :D ------------- Leave the past to burn, At least that's been his own - Peter Hammill |
Posted By: Codera the Great
Date Posted: October 21 2013 at 10:41
| Both Rick Wakeman and Tony Banks are superb for the work they did with Yes and Genesis, but I'd give the slight edge to Rick Wakeman, because I like his solo work more than Tony Banks'. |
Posted By: Hana
Date Posted: April 03 2014 at 10:07
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Rick Wakeman is too much "baroque" for me and archaic on some level. And (dont kill me) - boring. Tony always has a imaginative structure of harmony and beautiful melodies. I vote for Tony!
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Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: April 03 2014 at 10:40
Morning Has Broken - What a beautiful song! And Rick has really superb songs and albums, he is also a great composer. I can't vote because i don't know yet Banks solo works. -------------  "Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." LvB |
Posted By: ebil0505
Date Posted: April 03 2014 at 11:18
A month ago I would've said Wakeman, but I can't argue with The Cinema Show  He's the most melodious keyboardist I know of; each solo (at least with Genesis) is so unique to the respective song it always fits perfectly, especially The Colony of Slippermen.------------- "I like to think oysters transcend national barriers." - Roger Waters |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: April 03 2014 at 11:58
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Soloist: Rick Wakeman Band member: Tony Banks Composer: Rick Wakeman Performer: Both in their styles -------------
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: April 03 2014 at 12:03
| Tony is the best all round prog keyboardist---he has no cheesy sounds , as a matter of fact he heas the best synth sounds in the business---and his playing is sublime---either as lead or as carrying the whole song. |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: April 03 2014 at 13:38
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Posted By: giselle
Date Posted: April 03 2014 at 16:54
| Is this a put-on? I'm not a huge fan of Rick Wakeman, but he is, at the very least, one of the outstanding keyboard players of the Rock era, whereas Tony Banks is a fine sideman, a good pro. Not a fair or sensible comparison. |