"Most adventurous" albums included in PA
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Topic: "Most adventurous" albums included in PA
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Subject: "Most adventurous" albums included in PA
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 10:54
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Simple question really: Which prog albums do you consider to be the most adventurous and far reaching? Any speculations as to what "the most adventurous" means to each of us are also very welcome. There are no boundaries here. I acknowledge the fact that we all hear music differently, which is something that preferably should be taken into consideration when people post in here. No bashing peeps for believing Phideaux's Doomsday Afternoon is the true recipient of said honour, nor that it befalls some new black metal act. So without further ado, please tell me about the albums you find the most adventurous. Doesn't have to be the most successful - hell it doesn't even have to be good  Again you make your own rules, I'll just read whatever you post.<span style="line-height: 1.2;">Two albums I personally think among the most boundary pushing and adventurous are without a doubt King Crimson's Larks' Tongues in Aspic and Amon Düül ll's Tanz der Lemminge.</span>
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Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 11:15
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I'll let more informed people tackle the way-out-there stuff, but one album that was more in the rock mainstream but still adventurous, in my opinion, is Rush's Vapor Trails. They basically ditched their style and decided to make a wall-of-sound prog grunge masterpiece that is the heaviest and most complex thing they've ever done.
------------- I love dogs, I've always loved dogs |
Posted By: VOTOMS
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 11:31
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 11:33
Like I said, any input is welcome As I understand it, Vapor Trails followed some tragic events in Peart's personal life. Writing about that afterwards - throwing it straight into the core of the music could also be considered quite adventurous. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 11:54
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For me, determining the "most adventurous" means looking at the album in a historical context...in other words, what came before it? Did it push the boundaries that were accepted at the time it was released? Was it something new and revolutionary? Based on those criteria here's a few I'd go with... The Beatles - Sgt Peppers (turned the album from a collection of singles into a self-contained art form) King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King (defined the genre of prog rock) Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath (paired loud guitar with demonic themes creating the first heavy metal album) Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick (1 album, 1 song...had this ever been done?) Yes - Tales from Topographic Oceans (2 albums, 4 songs. How dare they! How pretentious! How cool!) King Crimson - Red (the first marriage of heavy metal and prog) Devil Doll - Eliobabalus (a cross between prog and a horror movie) ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 11:55
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First, I'll define how I interpret "most adventurous". To me, it means
albums that employed the most unusual (at the time) musical sounds or
recording methods -- albums that achieved a sound that hadn't really
been heard before. with that as my definition, I submit these: Magma - MDK. Just completely different. Up-front choral voices, choppy rhythms, pianos and horns, even their weird first 2 albums didn't prepare anyone for this. Can - Tago Mago. The most adventurous thing about this was not the repetitive rhythm grooves, nor Damo's crazed yowling, but the way the album itself was created. Can recording sessions often took the form of jams, but the songs and the album as a whole are expertly pieced together from hours upon hours of jams, creating these strange collage like pieces that still manage to feel organic and elemental. Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon. Maybe too obvious, but just think about what that album accomplished from a sounds and recording standpoint. It's music taken into a new dimension, a drastic widening of the sonic palate. Alan Parsons (engineer) nearly repeated the success a couple of years later with his own I Robot. Kayo Dot - Choirs of the Eye. Maybe the most adventurous album of the past ten years. It took me a few years to like it. It's the first album I'm aware of to combine chamber music with roaring metal drama, in a way that doesn't come off forced, and doesn't sound like either a metal album or a chamber album, yet sounds like both  (wut?); rather, it's like a strange nightmare
that's been perfectly reconstructed in the real world. It's beautiful
and ugly in equal doses.
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 12:18
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King Crimson definitely comes to mind. For me it would be Discipline - a comeback album that saw them redefine their sound for a new decade. A modern equivalent in my mind would be Mars Volta. Reforming after At The Drive In to make the delightful Deloused in the Comatorium. Of course 2112 should also fit in here - The band was basically done after their "Down the Tubes Tour" in cupport of Caress of Steel so they decided to go all-out with no compromise on a concept album and well... look where it got them! *can't seem to get a youtube link for this one working so please whistle the opening whooshes of Overture while you look at this album cover*  |
Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 12:38
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Sleepytime Gorilla Museum- Donkey Headed Adversary of Humanity And you know... I find some of the avant-garde black metal out there to be some of the most adventurous music. I would say "La Masqurade Infernale" by Arcturus definitely feels like an 'adventure.' ------------- http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/ wtf |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 12:41
Very nice posts up until now, thanks folks I like the fact that we've gone from Tull to Volta to Sabbath to CAN to Kayo Dot. A strange mix of differentiating styles, eras and expressions. Also really cool to see you guys approaching this thread in your own way. Specifying why you choose what you choose. I'll elaborate a bit on Tanz der Lemminge then. Going straight from the heavy tumultuous Yeti, ADII went all out and beyond with Tanz. You've still got the wild experimental laissez faire approach lingering, only now disturbed by a series of wonderfully zany, off kilter, cabaret like tunes, that are as orchestrated and composed as a Beatles album, only waaaay more out there on a ledge. I don't think any other band could've pulled off an album like this. Especially back in 71. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 12:41
Yes, plus the fact that nothing like it had ever been made before. That's one of the reasons I love the album - it's totaly unique. It takes two seemingly incompatible musical concepts (garage-rock bad production grunge and complex, layered progressive rock) and smashes them together. ------------- I love dogs, I've always loved dogs |
Guldbamsen wrote:Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 12:43
I'm more of a Sham Mirrors guy myself, but I can dig it. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 13:11
------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 13:13
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Couldn't have said it better myself, Steve. I think I'll give it another shot as well ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 13:21
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Oink Floyd - Atom Heart Mother
Osanna - Palepoli Klaus Schulze - X Meredith Monk - Dolmen Music Peter Hammill - Loops & Reels ------------- |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 13:22
------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 13:25
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 14:39
Of Natural History is a great album, definitely adventurous!  on a somewhat related (not not really) note: Porcupine Tree's On The Sunday of Life is likely their most varied and eclectic. A favorite of mine  |
Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 14:57
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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 15:30
Not sure if they're considered "avant-garde" black metal but I would point to Enslaved. I think their 2001 album "Monumension" would qualify as adventurous as it mixes black metal with Norwegian folk and viking influences to create something new. ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: Mr. Mustard
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 15:32
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Most of King Crimson's early stuff, Sgt. Pepper, DSOTM ------------- 
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Posted By: silverpot
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 15:37
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I don't feel Dark Side of the Moon is very adventurous, Ummagumma studio on the other hand...Today it seems rather incredible that they got away with it.
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 16:31
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 16:56
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I agree with HolyMoly: Magma's MDK, Can's Tago Mago, Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon, and Kayo
Dot's Choirs of the Eye all burst onto the scene with sound/music that was, to me, totally mind expanding. I will also add those posed by Queen By-Tor: King Crimson's Discipline and The Mars Volta's De-loused in the Comatorium as well as three others that I think fit the bill: Yes' Fragile, Cocteau Twins' Treasure and maudlin of the Well's Part the Second also blew me away with the freshness of their sounds, composing & performing. All amazing achievements in human creativity, IMHO.
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 16:59
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I think there's a bunch here, I'm going to pick albums that stopped me in my tracks when I heard them, I'll go for:- Amon Duul II - Tanz Der Lemminge (great genre stretching psyche) King Crimson - Larks Tongues In Aspic (so angular, so heavy, so different from the earlier stuff) Sleepytime Gorilla Museum - Of Natural History (avant metal unlike anyone else) Captain Beefheart - Trout Mask Replica (nuff said) MC5 - Kick Out The Jams (heavy heavy heavy) Art Zoyd - Symphonie pour le jour... (angular, dissonant, what the hell is going on?) Electric Masada - At The Mountains Of Madness (how to make music bleed, it literally screams) 5UU's - Hungers Teeth (edgy, atonal, dissonant, me likey) Comus - First Utterance (Acid Folk, my god he sounds like he's suffering) Richard Pinhas - Metal / Crystal (noise that moves and flows, drives & throbs) ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 17:26
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Would Talk Talk's Spirit of Eden and Laughing Stock be considered adventurous beyond the band's progression? ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 17:27
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 17:41
------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 18:27
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Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 18:34
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Though not prog, I would like to mention Dan Barrett's project Have a Nice Life and the album Deathconsciousness. It's a great mix of shoegaze, post-rock, post-punk and drone. One of the darkest and most interesting albums I've ever heard. Here's the ending track if anyone's interested: ------------- |
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 20:05
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Not mentioned yet:
Henry Cow - Unrest (especially the second side, which was studio-manipulated improvisations)
Art Zoyd - Les Espace Inequits (mixing their previous freak-out chamber prog stuff with synths and drum machines for the first time, creating some incredibly weird yet timeless music)
Mr. Bungle - Disco Volante (an insane album with unpredictable and challenging music combined with some weird and sometimes disturbing lyrical content, not something you want to listen to relaxing on a Sunday afternoon or whatever) ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |
Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 22:07
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I can think of a few: Godspeed You! Black Emperor - f# a# infinity Univers Zero - 1313 Tangerine Dream - Zeit ------------- -- Frank Swarbrick Belief is not Truth. |
Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 23:27
I've only heard Laughing Stock, but based on what I know about rock music at the time, and about the band's history, I would definitely call it an adventurous album, and Spirit of Eden also if it's anything like it. They were, after all, one of the seminal bands of post rock, if I understand the history correctly. ------------- I love dogs, I've always loved dogs |
Posted By: RedNightmareKing
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 00:14
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A couple for me are: Aphrodite's Child - 666 (such a unique album, and a forgotten gem) Carla Bley & Paul Haines - Escalator Over the Hill (who else would do a jazz opera spanning 3 LPs?) ------------- I consider drone metal to be progressive... |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 05:41
I agree with your choices here. The first time I heard Unrest, I thought there was something wrong with my cd Some electronic albums that I think were extremely adventurous for the time they were recorded in: Tangerine Dream - Alpha Centauri and Zeit Klaus Schulze - Irrlicht and Blackdance Igor Wakhevitch - Logos Heldon - Electronique Guerilla Terry Riley - In C Manuel Göttsching - Chessboard record Takehisa Kosugi - Catch Wave ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 05:53
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Easily "In A Glass House" by Gentle Giant. Columbia rejected it as uncommercial and dumped it. The band stuck to its guns and released it on a relatively unknown label WWA. It is now a cult classic prog album. Can you name any other band and their album that approaches this degree of adventuresome? |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 06:03
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Musically I think there are many albums that reach the same heights of adventurism as GG, and there are also numerous of occasions where bands didn't get to release their material, because of it being too weird/out there/classical/raw/insert your own. That's why we've seen so many issues of "long lost albums" that were never released at the time of their conception. But if we're talking about adventurous in terms of believing in oneself and sticking to ones guns in the face of adversity, then how about Polish band SBB who effectively were outlawed for playing prog under a communist rule? These guys faced jail, if they ever got caught. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 06:09
Yes I really have to concur with you on this. If a band risks their life for their music then you have to say that this is more adventurous than ANYTHING GG put out.
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 06:35
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Like I said at the start of the thread, there are really no "rights" and "wrongs" here, and one person's adventurous music just may fall under yawn to others. Adventurous can be applied to any aspect of the band, music, circumstances of recording, the instruments being used - whatever really. You make up the rules, I'm just along for the ride Anyway, I can just imagine getting home to my turntable anno 1973 popping on In a Glass House I think it must've been quite the experience. Who else sounded like this? No one, literally. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 06:41
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Works Vol 1 ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 06:47
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Uhh how could I forget about Esperanto's wonderfully eccentric Danse Macabre? This though may fall under the category of adventurous ways of employing the violin, because this album definitely has some of the most incredible violin playing on it. Somewhere between Chris Karrer from ADll and Jean Luc Ponty and then not really. Popped into a zany mix of folk music on speed where the violin mimics the style of Keith Emerson.  ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 13:34
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For me, the most adventurous prog albums have come with in the form of 'conceptual' music.
To list a few.... Saviour Machine: The legend trilogy--with out a doubt this is a big one for me. It's an entire musical, dark metal opera about the book of revelations in the bible. Dark, twisted and flat out interesting considering it's from Satan's angle of how he and his armies fought against god....war against the heavens anyone? AYREON: The Human Equation-- this is an album that I find to be a grand adventure. A man lies in a comma after a brutal car crash and in order to get out of that coma he must challenge all the assets of his mind....age, reason, love, hate, pain...etc. each emotion is a character for crying out loud! Pretty awesome Queensr˙che: Operation Mindcrime---The seedy underbelly of terrorist actions and manipulations to recruit a young man to do horrible things in order to creat chaos and political revolutions. Always a fun spin. Don't ever trust a needle!! Lol Beyond Twilight: Section x---this is thee most bizzare concept album I've ever listened to, but incredibly adventurous. The album deals with subject matter that of Human cloning, brain mapping and unimaginable torture immagery of the soul. It's a reckless and dark album fueled by an incredible plot. Savatage: Streets: A Rock Opera--- about a man, D.T Jesus who goes through a typical rise and fall story that is closely linked to fame, talent and drugs. Vangelis: Blade Runner Soundtrack-- created images of a futuristic society. Nuff said. :) Tangerine Dream--Hyperborea. For me, these instrumentals take me on a journey around the world. Beautiful stuff. Not conceptual of course. :) Anyway. There are many more but this list I think can be at the top of my adventure world for now. ------------- Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣 |
Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 13:39
Haven't listened to that one in aaaaaaages, my friend! Damn good album. John's a happy man for $25, but what exactly does he get for his money again??!
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Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 13:49
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You know, we haven't touched on Italian Prog.
Banco del mutuo socorso simply for the fact that they rocked as hard as anyone, but they released a concept album about Darwin, and then a few albums later a concept about about Jesus Christ. That's some adventure. ------------- http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/ wtf |
Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 13:55
Oh no, I've let my side down, Smurph! 
You make some good recommendations, I'd go as far as adding that even the self titled Banco debut album is an adventure all on it's own! So many directions, so many dazzling ideas, so much cracking energy. I like the almost sinister air of menace about it, and all of those lovely gothic/classical sections. What an album! 
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Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 14:41
Very true! There is something truly sinister about the albums Banco released. I find that is what attracted me to them most of all. Maybe they were funded by the mob? haha ------------- http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/ wtf |
Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 15:58
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Haven't seen a mention of VdGG here. While not my favorite, Pawn Hearts is an adventurous album. ------------- |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 17:05
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I think all 3 Wetton period KC lp's are 'adventurous'. Diagonal Birds and Buildings Deluge Grandeur French TV Beardfish ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 17:34
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I think there are two measures of adventurous when it comes to music - there are those albums that are adventurous when you look back on them - the really wacky out-there ones that will be weird and bold and daring no matter when you hear them - Ys (Il Balletto di Bronzo, naturally), Pawn Hearts and Of Natural History will fit into that category for me in ways that so many well meaning albums never will. And there are those albums that are adventurous when you look on them for the first time, that when you've played them through once you mutter under your breath "What. The. F---. Was. That..."
Of course many of those albums may remain like that, and become one of those "looking back" adventurous albums, but other's don't - they are the ones that turned your head and you can never turn it back, and they're never quite as adventurous after repeated plays and some, after a long interval looking back on them leave you wondering what all the fuss was about. Tool's Undertow is an example of one such album for me - a jaw-drop album that seemed quite normal by the time Aenima was released and then by Lateralus and 10000 Days I'd almost forgotten how good it was - but when I first heard it - "W.T.F.W.T...". Other albums that fit into this category would be Tubby Bells, In Search Of The Lost Chord, A Farewell To Kings, Meddle, In The Region Of The Summer Stars and Future Days.
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 17:36
Yo Smurph! If you dig a little Italian cuisine in your earways, then you should probably check out AREA. Talk about adventurous These guys came up with something you can vaguely describe as circus fusion with electronics and avantguarde trickery frequently popping by. Singer Demitrio Stratos is both the most mad and versatile you'll ever come across. He yodles as well These two are perhaps the most "out there" they ever made:   ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 17:41
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Area are `adventurous', Dave?! More like `bat s**t freaking insane'!!
That band takes a lot of time to get your head around, but well worth it in the end. They that can take a lifetime to truly appreciate! |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 17:48
Very nice post Dean. I know exactly what you mean. I remember buying Undertow back when it was first released - sporting a somewhat similar reaction as the one you had. Prison sex and Bottom may have done the trick. It's not that I didn't listen to aggressive music at the time either, I heard Ulver, Obituary, Neurosis, Slayer stuff like that - Tool were just completely different sounding. Today I know Undertow like the back of my hand, and while I think it's one of their best(maybe their very best actually), it's not half as adventurous as what came after. Ys and Pawn Hearts will always stay truly adventurous in my mind as well. Just like the Atom Heart Mother Suite will. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 17:53
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OH man I forgot about Area and Il Balletto Di Bronzo!!!!! But... what really is interesting is the life of the singer from Area. Anyone interested in their music should check it out. He is actually one of the best vocalist to ever have existed. He literally studied on a higher plane of intellectual ideas when it came to the use of his voice. Anyone who thinks Mike Patton is great needs only to check out the singer from Area to find out what probably is one of his biggest inspirations. ------------- http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/ wtf |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 17:56
I've been catching myself recently whistling grooves off of the Crac! album at school The other day I was standing in line waiting to buy a cup of coffee from the nice lunch lady, and caught myself in the midst of L'Elefante Bianco while moving slightly funky about. She looked at me like I was crazy. I asked her if she never danced to her own beats, and she gave me a smile plus a free fill-up (because of the dance, she said )Maybe this music truly makes you loose your marbles? If so, then I'm definitely loving every second of it.
------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 17:58
Hahaha. This guy ------------- http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/ wtf |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 18:01
Cool you know them And Stratos was just phenomenal. A prodigy really. His solo album is beyond insane. It's all vocals, and he bends em like warm jello. Adventurous yes, that's the word. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 18:09
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Put it this way, Smurph and Dave, I remember when my buddy, fellow Archives member Tom Ozric, first got an LP reissue of Area's `Crac', and when he played it I thought `WHAT THE F**K?!?!?' lol! I couldn't get my head around a second of it! The music went in all directions, and then there were the inpenetrable vocals to deal with as well! Mind you, this was probably almost 18 years ago?
Another album I used to think quite little of that I know consider something of an unappreciated classic - and definately fits the `adventurous' tage here - is Marsupilami's `Arena'! I can not explain properly how much I lose my s**t when it hits that opening passage a few seconds into the album: "I've come here today, to rip the veil from your eyes, pull off your heads AND RIP OUT YOUR BLOODY MINDS!!!'
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Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 18:10
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Dave- That is because when I used to work for Chase- I could listen to music at work and I didn't have an iPod. The only website that wasn't blocked with music on it was progarchives.com. I listened to EVERY single mp3 that existed on the website while i worked there. Opened my mind to so many new bands that you can't believe it. I have well over 50 post-it notes, each with over 25 names on them. And YES I had listened to that album on youtube once before! Arena!! Ohhhh man.
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 18:16
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Smurph@ I used to do the same. I listened to all those mp3 lists too and subsequently found a lot of music that I hadn't heard before. Cool to take a chance sometimes and just listen to what the machine tells you. Mike@ I own that Marsupilami album as well. It's so.............erm theatrical? is probably the wrong word for it, but it's irregular and overwrought and then again it works in a bizarre kind of way.
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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 18:21
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Honestly, Dave...the vocals are all over the place on that one, sometimes really flat and painful, other times emotiojnal and effective!
But that album is very hard to love without a ton of plays. I was about to cash in my CD of it when I thought `You know, I'm going to listen to nothing else for the next week', must have played it about 20 times, and it finally clicked, even though much of the first half is quite fragmented and difficult to follow. But now....Dat's love, baby! 
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 18:29
Arrhh snap! I have to get up in less than 5 hours from now.... Always - it's literally always around this time where I get into the groove, speak to cool cats on PA and put some vinyls on the ol rack.......and then I have to go to bed! Catch you later guys! Nice talking to you ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: AreYouHuman
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 18:33
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Some great choices on this thread, many of which I wholeheartedly agree with, especially Darwin!, Larks’ Tongues, Danse Macabre, Sgt. Pepper, and even Dark Side. Nothing else like ’em at the time.
I think credit should be given to the major record labels that put this stuff out. I can’t imagine Larks’ Tongues in Aspic, an album that could be found in a supermarket in the small town where I grew up, being released a few years later, at least not by Atlantic. |
Posted By: Metalmarsh89
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 19:15
| I'm not very familiar with Miles Davis, but his late 60's/early 70's output seem pretty unconventional and original, as well as adventurous. |
Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 22:07
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I'm sorry to keep chiming in... but I forGOT about this band. Yezda Urfa. Such a sad tale with this band. But holy cow they were adventurous. Not sure if that's coming up for you guys. But that's supposed to be Cancer of the Band.
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 22:50
Good call! The début as well. ------------- |
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 01:05
You want bat sh*t crazy. DOGS BLOOD RISING by CURRENT 93 Dude. This is a tough one to listen to by yourself! Lol. Dare ya to listen to it with the lights off.  ------------- Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣 |
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 01:19
Oh god sakes Dean! You ALWAYS make sense 
Also. Undertow had that aberance to it that made so appealing to me as well, but they (Tool) really did up the Anti in the 'I'm gonna blow your mind' department with AENIMA. Crazy German accents, creepy voice messages and seriously weird clown music. Oh boy. Talk about the Third eye really being opened up. The members of Tool did so much Ayahuasca it's not even funny. ------------- Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣 |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 10:22
When speaking of the most adventurous in regards to rock music, it's almost impossible not to think of Faust - at least it is for me. These guys took rock n roll and deconstructed it completely. Just like modern chefs with their molecular cuisine serving food that looks very different from how it actually tastes. "Wow uhhhmmm I love bananas!!" -and then you get kebab meat with capers instead. That's Faust for ya. This debut of theirs is among the most ground-breaking rock albums ever made imo. Conversely, I don't think it's anywhere near as good as what came after. Faust Tapes, So Far and IV are far better records.
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 10:44
Probably the scariest album in that vein that I've heard, though, is "Homotopy to Marie" by Nurse With Wound. I haven't been able to listen to it a second time. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 11:11
I love "Sacred Baboon" - I never heard the story though...what sad thing happened to them  ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 11:20
I'm guessing here, but I believe he's referring to the break up of the band, and that they couldn't get any record company to sign them. Their first album was self released, and the second got shelved for 16 years - only to be released with the help of the Syn-phonic man Greg Walker. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 11:29
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Three cheers for Greg Walker! Hip Hip Hip Hip Hip Hip ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 11:31
HIP HIP HIP ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 12:11
Indeed!!! ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 12:22
I haven't heard that one, but the way you've described it (homotopy for Marie) I don't think I should!! ------------- Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣 |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 12:25
 ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 12:33
The album sounds like it should not be played at high volumes or you are just asking for a heart attack. Lol. It's clever art for sure though. You just have to be in the mood for it...really in the mood. ;) ------------- Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣 |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 17:22
Good pick, Faust pretty much define adventurous, I'm looking forward to seeing them at RIO in Sept. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 19:07
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Man you guys have listed some really amazing albums here. I think Prog in general is adventerous music. It's cool that there really are no rules when it comes to this music. Bitches Brew and the Mwandishi albums fit the bill i'd say. Soft Machine, Frank Zappa, Roxy Music, Plat Du Jour and on and on. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 13:55
I'm gonna pretend I didn't hear that I mean who wouldn't want to experience this firsthand?: ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 14:03
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^^ I know how you feel David. A year or so ago I found an excellent recording of a 2009 Faust show held at the 40 Watt Club in Athens GA (about 60 miles from ATL), and my first thought was, "Yay! I now have a great recording of a great Faust show that happened right near me!" and my second thought was "HOW COULD I MISS THAT SHOW!!"
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 14:25
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What a bummer Steve I've tried this a couple of times before - one of them being when Pink Floyd played in Copenhagen anno 1992. I was ready to buy tickets and all that, but my parents turned my 10 year old self down So many gigs I wished I could've seen. Some of em I missed simply because progressive music in Denmark is something you advertise in a silent way. Small stickers and flyers glued underneath the table, tiny promoters that promote in all the wrong places - like the bottom of a lake or has been gravel factories... In keeping with this thread though - I did manage to catch Fantomas at Roskilde a couple of years back. What a complete mindf*ck that was!!! ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 23:22
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Yeah, I was going to mention the Faust debut, beat me to it!
That album is just f**ked. Honestly, might be the weirdest listen I've ever had straight up. Certainly the most abstract album of the 70's, at least from what I've heard. ------------- 
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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 23:26
Wow, lucky you! Should be an experience, to say the least. What's he got there anyways? A saw? That is so kraut, it hurts. -------------
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: June 24 2013 at 21:26
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^ I use that type of saw to undercut doors when we put in hardwood or lamanent. The boss says it's the most dangerous tool that we use. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: June 26 2013 at 07:18
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Frank Zappa - Freak Out
King Crimson - Lark's Tongues in Aspic Genesis - Trespass Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway Frith and Kaiser - With Friends Like These Nektar - Journey to the Center of the Eye Steve Hackett - Voyage of the Acolyte Steve Hackett - Please Don't Touch Soft Machine - Volume 1 Jade Warrior - Released |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: June 26 2013 at 09:48
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Quite interesting how many of the albums that have been listed are ones that I have tried listening to once or twice had the WTF reaction and had no interest in wanting to listen to them again, whereas many of you fall in love with these. I am currently just finishing off my first listen to the third Sleepytime Gorilla Museum album, after listening to the second one for the first time yesterday. Good stuff musically but as with many of the albums listed, I could do without the harsh vocals. Mostly the same reaction I have to many of the above listed albums. ------------- 
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Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: June 26 2013 at 18:57
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^What are you like with weird-ass instrumental music?
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Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: June 26 2013 at 22:02
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^ I tell ya....
There Should be a MAGMA hotline number where the slogan is "looking for a good time and are willing to experiment call 1888-MAGMA. " lol. I'd say magma's KA is quite out there and sound wise alone, it's an adventure. Mahavishnu's BIRDS OF FIRE would be a nice fit here as well. It's off the charts!! ------------- Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣 |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: June 27 2013 at 10:03
| Tim Buckley changing from an all American folk singer to putting out Lorca and Starsailor and following it up with the sex funk efforts of Greetings from L.A. and Sefronia. Adventuresome career I think. |
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: June 28 2013 at 21:00
Is your boss by any chance the guy from Faust? But wow, looks like tricky business, I'll tell you that. -------------
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 28 2013 at 22:04
Y'know there's the flip side, too: I found a fanclub issue(?) of a gig Bruford played in my hometown in 1980 with Stewart, Berlin and Clark. Great venue, great set list... and it's just not that good. The performance is lax and the recording is, well, bad. I love a good bootleg but this was a bit of a rip-off. Still, it was almost irresistible and I suppose a piece of music history that didn't last long. We take what we can get 'til something better comes along. |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: June 28 2013 at 22:06
Why not just pull the door off the hinges and put it on sawhorses and use a skillsaw. I am pretty sure you meant you use that saw to undercut door jambs and door casings.
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Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: June 29 2013 at 00:22
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Well I was able to track down another gem that is adventurous as it gets.
CLIVE NOLAN's ALCHEMY. This is a brilliant, almost 2hr album, that is in vein of the style of AYREON's HUMAN EQUATION. Lots of characters played by different vocalists, huge orchestration and superb production to tell a haunting theatrical tale divided into 2 acts! I highly recommend this one. It's a rock opera full of adventure! ------------- Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣 |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 29 2013 at 00:55
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Morgan Fisher's first two, Nova Solis and The Sleeper Wakes Also anything by under-the-radar solo prog artist David Bagsby |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 10 2013 at 07:30
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He must be quite good with a name like that, though I must confess the last name completely escapes me. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 10 2013 at 07:32
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Adventurous albums hhmmm let me see now, where do they......how about the..... ......TADAHHHH  ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: July 10 2013 at 10:42
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^ ------------- Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣 |
Posted By: maani
Date Posted: July 10 2013 at 17:37
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From TKC:
The Beatles - Sgt Peppers (turned the album from a collection of singles into a self-contained art form) King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King (defined the genre of prog rock) Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick (1 album, 1 song...had this ever been done?)" Good start! HF adds: Frank Zappa - Freak Out King Crimson - Lark's Tongues in Aspic Genesis - Trespass, The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway Nektar - Journey to the Center of the Eye (Nice to see someone recognize Nektar here.) I also agree with Tarkus, and would add GG's Acquiring the Taste, and the Moody's Threshold. There is also much non-English prog that could be added, including stuff from PFM, Museo Rosenbach (people tend to forget that Zarathustra was among the earliest full-length concept albums, coming just a year after Thick as a Brick (i.e., 1973). Peace. |
Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: July 10 2013 at 17:46
A bit surprised to find here a Morgan Fisher's connoisseur Nova Solis is a great album, especially the title track.As for me, I myself can't make a list now as nothing comes to my mind  ------------- This night wounds time. |
Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: July 10 2013 at 19:37
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Yes' Tales From Topographic Oceans based on its rough concept of evolution, prana and nirvana. (Or is that just how I heard it?)
Shakti: Natural Elements based on the superb artistry behind the merger of Jazz, Rock and traditional Bhajan- esque styles.
Tarkus...that's all I'm sayin'. ------------- "Man is nothing else but that which he makes of himself" - Sartre |