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Topic: Isolation vs And Then There Were Three

Posted By: Icarium
Subject: Isolation vs And Then There Were Three
Date Posted: July 16 2013 at 16:38

Two of the best albums ever, melodic rock with prog rock tendencies, and blistering playing. You can never get enouh of them.

Both are very important to me also.

you cant vote unless you have heard both albums.

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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: July 16 2013 at 18:27

the force of Isolation is to me much more solid and immense, very good album

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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: July 17 2013 at 01:46

I clicked on ATTWT. A nice Crossover Prog album.

Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: July 17 2013 at 08:48

I have to be honest.....I don't really think either lp is that interesting.

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Posted By: Cactus Choir
Date Posted: July 17 2013 at 12:17

Isolation is my favourite Toto album and a beacon that shone in the musically grim 1980s so I picked that, even though ATTWT is good as well.

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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: July 17 2013 at 12:30

both album highlight furious instrumentation from the musicians, like they are playing for their life, the technical interplay's in both albums is non short of staggering..

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: July 17 2013 at 12:43

aginor wrote:

both album highlight furious instrumentation from the musicians, like they are playing for their life, the technical interplay's in both albums is non short of staggering..

Seriously....?

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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: July 17 2013 at 12:57

dr wu23 wrote:

aginor wrote:

both album highlight furious instrumentation from the musicians, like they are playing for their life, the technical interplay's in both albums is non short of staggering..

Seriously....?

the technical prowess of both albums are breathtaking, i speak of experience as a bass player and drummer who has tried to play this and also tried playing Dream Theater and its there in mndboggelingness

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 01:36

dr wu23 wrote:

aginor wrote:

both album highlight furious instrumentation from the musicians, like they are playing for their life, the technical interplay's in both albums is non short of staggering..

Seriously....?

Undertow and Deep In The Motherlode represent Genesis as I really love them. Very committed and intense. ATTWT gets poorly reviewed imo because of the prevailing view that they were 'going commerical'. Certainly it has shorter tracks but apparently it was okay for PG solo to do this but not the G-men.

Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 03:41

richardh wrote:

dr wu23 wrote:

aginor wrote:

both album highlight furious instrumentation from the musicians, like they are playing for their life, the technical interplay's in both albums is non short of staggering..

Seriously....?

I agree. Peter Gabriel One is the masterpiece without a question but ATTWT is much better than Peter Gabriel Two and Three imo.

Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 05:14

Not heard the Toto album. Never had much interest in the band, but I'm not inspired to check out Isolation..

I shall order a copy immediately.

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Posted By: Cactus Choir
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 05:38

Blacksword wrote:

Not heard the Toto album. Never had much interest in the band, but I'm not inspired to check out Isolation..

I shall order a copy immediately.

Presumably you meant "now inspired" rather than "not Inspired" to check out Isolation, Mr Sword? Tongue

If you like the first couple of Asia albums (I do) you should enjoy it. Proggy AOR played by great musicians who seem really into what they're doing, with the keyboard work a particular standout IMO.Some great pop/prog songs like Lion, Change of Heart and Mr Friendly.

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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 23:51

Never had any desire to check out Toto, but ATTWT is quite nice (if I ignore "Say it's Alright Joe" and "Follow You Follow Me").

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Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: July 19 2013 at 00:28

I listened to the Toto YT link the other day after reading this thread. OK 80s contaminated stuff, but I don't hear the "prog" that others seems to. Plus the 80s drums were tres annoying! Some good guitar, though. And how many singers do these guys have? Each song seems to have a different one! Tongue

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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: July 19 2013 at 11:37

Cactus Choir wrote:

Blacksword wrote:

Not heard the Toto album. Never had much interest in the band, but I'm not inspired to check out Isolation..

I shall order a copy immediately.

Presumably you meant "now inspired" rather than "not Inspired" to check out Isolation, Mr Sword? Tongue

If
you like the first couple of Asia albums (I do) you should enjoy it.
Proggy AOR played by great musicians who seem really into what they're
doing, with the keyboard work a particular standout IMO.Some great pop/prog songs like Lion, Change of Heart and Mr Friendly.

I am the lord of the typo said he!!

Yes I meant NOW. In fact it turned up in the post today, and I'm giving it a second spin now. I'm enjoying it too. Needs to sink in a little more, but at this early stage I would say ATTWT wins. But it is very enjoyable nonetheless. Melodic and memorable. Good musicianship and good production.

I was never a huge fan of Asia. I like their sound, but find some of their songs rather predictable. I think I would tentatively say I prefer what I've heard of Toto.

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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: July 19 2013 at 12:26

infocat wrote:

I listened to the Toto YT link the other day after reading this thread. OK 80s contaminated stuff, but I don't hear the "prog" that others seems to. Plus the 80s drums were tres annoying! Some good guitar, though. And how many singers do these guys have? Each song seems to have a different one! Tongue

that varies, but on deburte, vocal was shared by Bobby Kimbal, David Paich, Seve Lukather, and Steve Porcaro, (4) on Hydra the vocal dutys was between Bobby Kimbal, Steve Lukather, Steve Porcaro and David Paich, on Turn back, vocal dutys were between Boby Kimbal and Steve Lukather, on toto IV, same as on toto and on Hydra, Bobby, Steve, Steve and David (Bobby and Steve Lukather on Rosanna), Bobby was fired after (or asked to leave during the sessions of Isolation during his to high heroin usssage), and Fergie Fredriksen become the new "lead" vocalist, so on Isolation vocal duties is shared between, Fergie Fredriksen, Steve Lukather and David Paich (Paich sininng Holyanna and Stranger In Town plus shared vocal duties with Fergie on Carmen) Steve Lukather sings one song.

and they carried on this until forever exept on Kingdom of Desire and Tambu were all vocals were by Steve Lukather.

I could go into details on most albums,

and Jeff Porcaro is no simple 80s drummer, so sink back and listen more closely on it k, Tongue

on Isolation - vocals

Carmen (David Paich and Fergie Fredriksen)

Lion (Fergie Fredriksen)

Stranger In Town ( David Paich)

Angel Dont Cry (Fergie Fredriksen)

How Does It Feel (Steve Lukather)

Endless (Fergie Fredriksen

Isolation (Fergie Fredriksen)

Mr Friendly (Fergie Fredriksen)

Change of Heart (Fergie Fredriksen)

Holyanna (David Pach)

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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 07 2016 at 05:29

I like both albums.
Had there been no "both" option, I would have voted for Genesis.

Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: January 07 2016 at 06:20

Icarium wrote:

Two of the best albums ever, melodic rock with prog rock tendencies, and blistering playing. You can never get enouh of them.

Both are very important to me also.

you cant vote unless you have heard both albums.

Neither of your videos work btw.

I've not heard Isolation but I have heard ATTWT and never really liked it.

Posted By: Skalla-Grim
Date Posted: January 07 2016 at 09:33

I don't know Isolation, therefore no vote. "And Then ..." is a really good album though. Except "Follow You ..." which is like a bonus track in a different style. For me, the albums ends with "The Lady Lies".

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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: January 09 2016 at 10:18

uppdated videos

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