Deep Purple Prog or Not
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Topic: Deep Purple Prog or Not
Posted By: Maike
Subject: Deep Purple Prog or Not
Date Posted: August 04 2005 at 13:16
I believe it has been asked before, but is DEEP PURPLE PROG OR NOT?
I personally believe it is and not just the MK1 albuns but every album
they put out in the 70's were prog or at least had prog elements in it
(example: Burn, Stormbringer, Space Truckin, Into the Fire, Gypsy, You
Keep on Moving, Fireball, you name it...)
And if it is Prog, why???... They belong in here...
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 04 2005 at 13:18
Why don't we just add every 70's Rock Band and be done with it????????

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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 04 2005 at 13:19
No, they're not a prog band. They use progressive elements, but quite rarely - and their early albums from the late 60's are merely psychedelic. Space Truckin is a good example for a song with many progressive elements, but songs like that aren't what Deep Purple are famous for ...
All just IMO, as usual.
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Posted By: Maike
Date Posted: August 04 2005 at 13:21
Well, after a long discussions, Queen joined the Prog Archives. Why not
Purple ? They are progressive at least more than Roxy Music, Queen,
Styx, Radiohead and a lot other bands.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 04 2005 at 13:25
Maike wrote:
Well, after a long discussions, Queen joined the Prog Archives. Why not Purple ? They are progressive at least more than Roxy Music, Queen, Styx, Radiohead and a lot other bands. |
This thread is again going to follow the "Yes it is - No it isn't - Yes it is ..." pattern. It's just opinion vs. opinion (vs. opinion etc.).
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: August 04 2005 at 13:35
Maike wrote:
Well, after a long discussions, Queen joined the Prog Archives. Why not Purple ? They are progressive at least more than Roxy Music, Queen, Styx, Radiohead and a lot other bands. |
My thoughts exactly. As a matter of fact, I'd rather see Purple (one of my all-time favourites) in ProgArchives than Queen, good as they might be. As to whether Purple are prog or not, I voted yes because they definitely have some prog elements in their sound, as listening to Made in Japan will prove. Of course I wouldn't ever dare to say that Smoke on the Water is prog... but then, neither are many of the tracks on the Queen albums reviewed here.
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Posted By: Maike
Date Posted: August 04 2005 at 13:37
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: August 04 2005 at 13:50
Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: August 04 2005 at 14:03
Maike wrote:
democracy |
In democracy people vote for theirr leaders, who make the decisions. If their decisions don't please you, the people select another leaders (see -> U.S.A. and Great Britain).
IMO the internet represents more anarchy. I'm not saying its wrong...
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Posted By: Maike
Date Posted: August 04 2005 at 14:21
Democracy is the right that each and everyone of us has to express our
thoughts, say what's in our minds... its more than a vote. Dont confuse
a Democratic right that is the vote with Democracy which is a larger
issue
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Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: August 04 2005 at 15:24
Maiden aer far ore prog then purple... GIVE ME MAIDEN!!!!!!!
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Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: August 04 2005 at 16:14
yea, the early albums are prog (at leats by the latest prog archives standards, blah)
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Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: August 04 2005 at 16:43
Deep Purple rocks, dude.
But they are not prog; no way, dude.
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Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: August 04 2005 at 17:32
Posted By: Humanizzimo
Date Posted: August 04 2005 at 18:28
Rock n roll man
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Posted By: Maike
Date Posted: August 04 2005 at 19:40
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
No, they're not a prog band. They use
progressive elements, but quite rarely - and their early albums from the
late 60's are merely psychedelic. Space Truckin is a good example for a
song with many progressive elements, but songs like that aren't what
Deep Purple are famous for ...
All just IMO, as usual. |
lets keep this in mind. Many of the bands that are in the PA were in some
moment in their career, progressive. Queen was added cause their first 3
or 4 albums were considered prog. OK no problem with that, I love
Queen. How do you explain Radiohead? for me the only song that can be
considered progressive is Paranoid Android, but thats just my opinion.
But they are in the PA. Supertramp? Progressive? Classic Rock yeah good
music wonderful composition but prog? Hell why not Dire Straits? they are
in the same line of Pink Floyd (well a litle bit rocker) but they have a lot of
symphonic music.
Why not Black Sabbath? Sabbath Bloody Sabbath is quite progressive. I
recommend it. Rick Wakeman played there, and its not the normal
Sabbath album its even darker than the others almost conceptual with a
lot of atmospheric sounds.
DP have all the elements that make a band progressive:
-A keyboardist that writes classical music (like Wakeman or Emerson)
-Classical trained musicians
-A million of guitar/keyboard duels
-Lyrics about Space travels
-long Jams
-Excelent Musicians (every MK) they produced some of the best music in
rock history
-Epics like Child in Time, Fools, April just to name a few.
-Ok they never recorded a concept album... so what?
In Rock is almost like a one track album with 7 movements in it, that
album is very coerent very strong.
Smoke on the water is not prog neither is We will rock you
Flash is Prog and so is Space Truckin or Highway Star or Burn.
So once again I ask Why is not Deep Purple the next band joining the
Archives? Maybe we should have a poll and see the results.
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: August 05 2005 at 06:24
I hate deep purple, if they comes here im out! 

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Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: August 05 2005 at 06:34
Posted By: floydaholic
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 20:04
Making a few progish songs doesn't make you prog. Although(fun fact), they started out as a prog band and made a 180 and did metal/hard rock. I'll bet Lord would have been an excellent prog keyboardist. Very talented man.
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Posted By: Damen
Date Posted: August 07 2005 at 01:15
Some early Deep Purple might be considered prog but I don't think they should be added. I think Queen should be removed as well.
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Posted By: Wolf Spider
Date Posted: August 07 2005 at 08:02
Not prog but still a great band.
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Posted By: Maike
Date Posted: August 07 2005 at 18:56
oh well, I tried
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Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: August 09 2005 at 05:46
Maike:
I can't find the appropriate words to say to what extent I share your views. You're absolutely right, and I did start a thread several weeks ago to include DP, at least the solo albums of Jon Lord here.
I think you're wrong on one point: DP did have a concept album - Concerto! You might like it, you might not like it, but it is there, and the Concerto was played the same year ItCotCK, the very first prog album according to many, was released. Concerto is one of the earliest examples of Symphonic prog, and so is Jon Lord's sequel to this album: Gemini Suite. Too bad it was not recorded with DP line up (albeit 2 more members than Lord himself) in studio, and the live version with DP is very obscure (I couldn't find it yet)
And though it should be discussed in another topic, you're right about (Ozzy era) Sabbath too. I believe Wakeman contributed by more than merely playing keyboards. You can feel his influence in every second of the album, even in Ozzy's singing! No surprise Ozzy some 30 years later paid his debt by singing in the magnificent Return to the Center of the Earth album! Sabbath's Vol 4, Master of Reality and Sabotage albums are also very proggy, you might add never say die if you wish! I believe these should be included under a seperate category (such as "prog related") and already discussed this in other reviews.
Anyway, Deep Purple is absolutely prog. They have non-prog songs-albums, so what! How many non prog songs does Genesis have?!?!? Albums? Even Yes has very downfall moments.
I can't even compare DP to Queen (though I like them too) and the dreadful Radiohead! I can only compare them to Uriah Heep, which, according to me, is very similar to Deep Purple in many ways (heavy approach, use of keyboards, vocal style), though some do not agree with me on this point. (I understand, because Kraftwerk and Tangerine Dream seem similar at first likewise, but they are very different indeed) No matter what, anyone will appreciate the similarity between DP and UH to some extent.
It is not about trying to have my fave band included. DP has long ceased to be my favorite, but I still enjoy their music, and appreciate their music enough to see the "prog" within the "heavy".
Hats off to Deep Purple!
         
P.S. Despite all the arguments against DP, please consider Jon Lord seperately as a solo artist.
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: August 09 2005 at 06:06
Too bluesy to be prog!
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Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: August 09 2005 at 06:42
deep purple is not prog
but 'rainbow' sounds more prog.
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: August 19 2005 at 15:21
They're as prog as Rush and proggier than queen. Great art rock, or maybe even prog metal
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Posted By: floydaholic
Date Posted: August 19 2005 at 16:05
I say nay.
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Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: August 21 2005 at 07:36
The Miracle wrote:
They're as prog as Rush and proggier than queen. Great art rock, or maybe even prog metal
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oh no, not so much! Well, we can say they "inspired" prog metal a great deal (look at the Dream Theater covers!) and far better than any prog metal band! I believe it fits into Art-Rock as for the current progarchives standards (Rush, Kansas, Uriah Heep, early Styx etc.) , but all these and DP should be regarded as "heavy prog", or "hard-prog rock"...
Bluesy!?!?!?!?!? please! even Barclay James Harvest is more bluesy, and they are here since the day I discovered PA! Not to mention other earlier psychedelic acts who dwell here for more than 2 years!
peace!
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Posted By: M. B. Zapelini
Date Posted: August 21 2005 at 08:09
The Miracle wrote:
They're as prog as Rush and proggier than queen. Great art rock, or maybe even prog metal
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I do agree with you when it comes to Queen, but not to Rush. Surely their first two albums have more prog elements than the others they recorded (not counting, of course, "Concerto for Group and Orchestra"). They were great, anyway.
Rainbow? That's another story... "Rising" is one of the first prog-metal albums, but one album does not make a prog band.
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: August 21 2005 at 08:17
nope...'fraid not...
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Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: August 21 2005 at 08:28
M. B. Zapelini wrote:
The Miracle wrote:
They're as prog as Rush and proggier than queen. Great art rock, or maybe even prog metal
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I do agree with you when it comes to Queen, but not to Rush. Surely their first two albums have more prog elements than the others they recorded (not counting, of course, "Concerto for Group and Orchestra"). They were great, anyway.
Rainbow? That's another story... "Rising" is one of the first prog-metal albums, but one album does not make a prog band.
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Who told about Rainbow?!?!? Anyway, you're right about Rising, but the rest usually reveal Ritchie's "trashy" side!
And not the first 2 albums only: at least you should check these out (with an unprejudiced mind):
1. Shades of Deep Purple 2. The Book of Taliesyn 3. Deep Purple (their most proggy album, IMHO. includes the great 3-part suite April) 4. Concerto (as you have already mentioned. Why not counting???) 5. In Rock (let the title not mislead you. It's a great prog album!) 6. Fireball (includes great longer tracks, The Mule, Fools, Demon's Eye) 7. Machine Head (one of the greatest hard-prog albums of all time. Let's not get stuck into Smoke on the Water. Highway Star, Space Truckin', Maybe I'm a Leo, Pictures of Home are great proggy tracks, not to mention the jazzy -and great- number "Lazy"!!!)
at least, you may stick onto the first 3 albums with mk1 line up... not just 2!
Peace!
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Posted By: pale moon
Date Posted: August 21 2005 at 09:26
if uriah heep is then deep purple is curtenly!
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