Islands vs Grace for Drowning
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Topic: Islands vs Grace for Drowning
Posted By: Dellinger
Subject: Islands vs Grace for Drowning
Date Posted: July 31 2014 at 21:51
It seems like Steven Wilson was in a kind of King Crimson mood when he did Grace for Drowning, and ended up with an album that sounds to me like a continuation of Islands. So, which of this two albums do you like better?
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Posted By: CryoftheCarrots
Date Posted: July 31 2014 at 22:09
I love Islands but it is not an album that gets a regular spin on my playlist unlike GFD .
------------- "There is a lot in this world to be tense and intense about"
MJK
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: July 31 2014 at 22:19
Tough call. Islands is near the bottom of my KC list. Nothing on GFD touches the title track of Islands...but overall I would probably prefer GFD.
------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: July 31 2014 at 22:30
Islands by King Crimson any day of the week. I don't like much anything by Steven Wilson or any of his musical projects.
------------- “Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: July 31 2014 at 22:56
Though I find GFD more consistent, most of the numbers on Islands just kill it!
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: August 01 2014 at 00:18
Posted By: La nouvelle terre
Date Posted: August 01 2014 at 07:01
Posted By: tboyd1802
Date Posted: August 01 2014 at 07:37
Tough call, I enjoy both, but neither are my top albums from either artist. This being said GFD gets more play in my house. I'll go with GFD.
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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: August 01 2014 at 07:59
Islands. Can't get into GFD at all.
------------- Welcome to the middle of the film.
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 01 2014 at 08:07
Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: August 01 2014 at 08:23
Grace for sure
------------- Prog On!
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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: August 01 2014 at 08:32
GfD. Islands is definitely ain't the best Crimso album.
------------- This night wounds time.
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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: August 01 2014 at 08:42
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: August 01 2014 at 09:55
GfD
------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: August 01 2014 at 10:39
If I was on a desert island and had to pick between the two it would be Islands.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 01 2014 at 10:42
Hi,
Who's Steven Wilson?
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: August 01 2014 at 10:44
moshkito wrote:
Hi,
Who's Steven Wilson? | Brian Wilson's brother. C'mon Mosh, keep up.
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Posted By: Xonty
Date Posted: August 01 2014 at 15:08
Islands easily. Still don't see any beauty in Steve Wilson's work
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Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: August 04 2014 at 00:10
Steven Wilson Grace for Drowning.
------------- When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night.
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Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: August 04 2014 at 00:19
Xonty wrote:
Islands easily. Still don't see any beauty in Steve Wilson's work |
Me either. Thank goodness I'm not the only one. Steven Wilson/PT are pretty popular on this forum, so it's always a comfort to meet others who don't find his work that appealing.
------------- “Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 04 2014 at 01:38
Mirror Image wrote:
Xonty wrote:
Islands easily. Still don't see any beauty in Steve Wilson's work |
Me either. Thank goodness I'm not the only one. Steven Wilson/PT are pretty popular on this forum, so it's always a comfort to meet others who don't find his work that appealing. |
I was a 'non-believer' at one point but Deadwing changed my mind. I was a lot less convinced by earlier albums because I perceived a lack of emotion in his music. It was all too controlled and perhaps even derivative yet Wilson was putting himself out there as the second coming. I suppose I admire him because he works hard at what he does and also he has at various times pulled together some great musicians especially for Raven. Someone described him as a musical director which is probably the best way to look at it . He has never and never will be a Fripp, Hackett or a Howe in terms of talent but he makes the best of the situation.
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Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: August 04 2014 at 07:49
I'm never been that much of a fan of KC to be honest but this is for me one of their better ones. However it has no chance coming up against this smoulderingly atmospheric double disc monster of an album. Grace.
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Posted By: Olape
Date Posted: August 04 2014 at 09:46
I like Steven Wilson's GFD a lot, but Islands is islands...
+1 for King Crimson
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Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: August 04 2014 at 10:09
richardh wrote:
Mirror Image wrote:
Xonty wrote:
Islands easily. Still don't see any beauty in Steve Wilson's work |
Me either. Thank goodness I'm not the only one. Steven Wilson/PT are pretty popular on this forum, so it's always a comfort to meet others who don't find his work that appealing. |
I was a 'non-believer' at one point but Deadwing changed my mind. I was a lot less convinced by earlier albums because I perceived a lack of emotion in his music. It was all too controlled and perhaps even derivative yet Wilson was putting himself out there as the second coming. I suppose I admire him because he works hard at what he does and also he has at various times pulled together some great musicians especially for Raven. Someone described him as a musical director which is probably the best way to look at it . He has never and never will be a Fripp, Hackett or a Howe in terms of talent but he makes the best of the situation. |
I own all of the Porcupine Tree and Steven Wilson solo albums and I keep them around thinking that one day the music will click, but, alas, it's been 10 years and I still have yet to be moved by anything he's done. It's not that I don't admire what he's doing or even understand the music. I just don't emotionally or intellectually connect with the music in any way. Like I've said before, the music just leaves me cold. I don't really know how else to explain my problem with Wilson.
------------- “Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 04 2014 at 13:02
Mirror Image wrote:
richardh wrote:
Mirror Image wrote:
Xonty wrote:
Islands easily. Still don't see any beauty in Steve Wilson's work |
Me either. Thank goodness I'm not the only one. Steven Wilson/PT are pretty popular on this forum, so it's always a comfort to meet others who don't find his work that appealing. |
I was a 'non-believer' at one point but Deadwing changed my mind. I was a lot less convinced by earlier albums because I perceived a lack of emotion in his music. It was all too controlled and perhaps even derivative yet Wilson was putting himself out there as the second coming. I suppose I admire him because he works hard at what he does and also he has at various times pulled together some great musicians especially for Raven. Someone described him as a musical director which is probably the best way to look at it . He has never and never will be a Fripp, Hackett or a Howe in terms of talent but he makes the best of the situation. |
I own all of the Porcupine Tree and Steven Wilson solo albums and I keep them around thinking that one day the music will click, but, alas, it's been 10 years and I still have yet to be moved by anything he's done. It's not that I don't admire what he's doing or even understand the music. I just don't emotionally or intellectually connect with the music in any way. Like I've said before, the music just leaves me cold. I don't really know how else to explain my problem with Wilson. |
As long as you plenty to listen then its not a particular concern. There is a lot of music around that is way more fun than Wilson's. I guess you probably are not madly keen on Anathema and Amplifier and other such bands either but I could be wrong. There is a snobbery connected to enjoying music that taps into a general negativity about life and Wilson always chooses dismal stuff to write about.
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 04 2014 at 21:26
Mirror Image wrote:
richardh wrote:
Mirror Image wrote:
Xonty wrote:
Islands easily. Still don't see any beauty in Steve Wilson's work |
Me either. Thank goodness I'm not the only one. Steven Wilson/PT are pretty popular on this forum, so it's always a comfort to meet others who don't find his work that appealing. |
I was a 'non-believer' at one point but Deadwing changed my mind. I was a lot less convinced by earlier albums because I perceived a lack of emotion in his music. It was all too controlled and perhaps even derivative yet Wilson was putting himself out there as the second coming. I suppose I admire him because he works hard at what he does and also he has at various times pulled together some great musicians especially for Raven. Someone described him as a musical director which is probably the best way to look at it . He has never and never will be a Fripp, Hackett or a Howe in terms of talent but he makes the best of the situation. |
I own all of the Porcupine Tree and Steven Wilson solo albums and I keep them around thinking that one day the music will click, but, alas, it's been 10 years and I still have yet to be moved by anything he's done. It's not that I don't admire what he's doing or even understand the music. I just don't emotionally or intellectually connect with the music in any way. Like I've said before, the music just leaves me cold. I don't really know how else to explain my problem with Wilson. |
I wonder how did you end up with all of Wilson's and PT's discography if you haven't found just about anything to enjoy from it. I would have given up at the second album, if those I got were suposed to be among the better ones.
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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: August 07 2014 at 15:43
GfD
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