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smartpatrol 
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Posted: February 08 2013 at 21:17 |
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What incarnation do you think had the best musicians, most chemistry, etc?
For me it'd be the 1968-69 Uncle Meat line up with Frank Zappa, Jimmy Carl Black, Roy Estrada, Don Preston, Bunk Gardner, Ian Underwood, Artie Tripp, and Motorhead
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Posted: February 08 2013 at 22:03 |
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The Roxy line-up.
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Posted: February 08 2013 at 22:17 |
 smartpatrol wrote:
For me it'd be the 1968-69 Uncle Meat line up with Frank Zappa, Jimmy Carl Black, Roy Estrada, Don Preston, Bunk Gardner, Ian Underwood, Artie Tripp, and Motorhead
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This, definitely. Lowell George was in there for a little while too.
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Posted: February 08 2013 at 22:43 |
zravkapt wrote:
The Roxy line-up.
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Posted: February 08 2013 at 23:19 |
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The Roxy line-up, as well as the '74 lineup, The Zappa In New York lineup, the '79 group with Vinnie and Arthur, and the '88 band.
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Posted: February 09 2013 at 00:48 |
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I'm a big fan of the Baby Snakes line up.
I just have a thing for Tommy Mars, Patrick O'Hearn and Terry Bozzio.
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 23:15 |
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Definately NOT the Flo & Eddie period, which was more of a novelty line-up (but Chunga's Revenge can kick serious ass....).
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 23:17 |
Tom Ozric wrote:
Definately NOT the Flo & Eddie period, which was more of a novelty line-up (but Chunga's Revenge can kick serious ass....). |
yeah, that period can be annoying, particularly the whole Dick That's a Monster routine
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 23:36 |
smartpatrol wrote:
Tom Ozric wrote:
Definately NOT the Flo & Eddie period, which was more of a novelty line-up (but Chunga's Revenge can kick serious ass....). |
yeah, that period can be annoying, particularly the whole Dick That's a Monster routine
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Just for fun, I'd say. I do like the Fillmore East album a lot. 200 Motels is a tough listen, but as you say, the onstage banter and carry-on can become tiresome.......
It still doesn't answer the thread's question.....I'd go for the Waka/Wazoo period (with 'Erroneous' on bass) coz they are probably my stand-out Zappa albums from the 30-odd LP's I have from him and his cohorts.
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Posted: February 15 2013 at 00:49 |
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I like Fillmore East as well, along with Chunga's Revenge. I've never heard 200 Motels, but I have seen the movie on Netflix. Haven't really been able to get into Just Another Band From L.A. besides Call Any Vegetable and maybe that version of Dog Breath.
Billy The Mountain feels like a chore to listen to. I generally have nothing negative to say about any Zappa album, but JABFLA does very little for m. Maybe I'll enjoy it more in the future.
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Posted: February 15 2013 at 00:59 |
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It's definitely not something you can listen to all the time. But everyonce in a while I can see it being really great. the problem with BtM is that you really have to pay attention to get into the story, and you can't really enjoy it passively because the music is always changing and rearranging and it's just not very, uh, what's the world I'm looking for... solid, I guess, musically.
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Posted: February 15 2013 at 01:19 |
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Well, the '88 band was the best band (for many they never heard in their life). But seriously, they were.
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Posted: February 15 2013 at 01:28 |
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They're pretty good, but so are most of Zappa's bands.
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Posted: February 15 2013 at 18:17 |
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Zappa, Napolean Murphy Brock, Ruth Underwood, George Duke, Chester Thompson. All the other line-ups are great too, though. I wonder how many line-ups were. Does anyone have number?
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Posted: February 15 2013 at 18:33 |
darkshade wrote:
I like Fillmore East as well, along with Chunga's Revenge. I've never heard 200 Motels, but I have seen the movie on Netflix. Haven't really been able to get into Just Another Band From L.A. besides Call Any Vegetable and maybe that version of Dog Breath.
Billy The Mountain feels like a chore to listen to. I generally have nothing negative to say about any Zappa album, but JABFLA does very little for m. Maybe I'll enjoy it more in the future. |
JABFLA is not as good as the Fillmore album - BtM is good fun - Zappa's later musical story 'Greggary Peccary' fares much better. And the inscestuous 'Magdalena' was a poor choice, it was wrong back then, it's plain wrong now. I would prefer an instrumental version of this song.
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Posted: February 20 2013 at 19:58 |
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I have a fondness for the 1984 lineup of Zappa (duh), Ray White, Ike Willis, Scott Thunes, Alan Zavod, Chad Wackerman, and of course Bobby Martin.
The DVD version of Does Humor Belong in Music? has some of my favorite performances.
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Posted: March 30 2013 at 19:11 |
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While I really like the "Portable Dangerous Orchestra" early 80's lineup with Stevie Vai, I'd have to go with the '74 "Live in Helsinki" lineup of FZ, George Duke, Chester Thompson, Tom Fowler, Napoleon Murphy Brock & Ruth Underwood. I think they're funnier than the Flo & Eddie lineup and have equal chops to the Stevie Vai lineup.
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Posted: April 12 2013 at 11:58 |
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The 88' Band
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Posted: April 15 2013 at 15:21 |
Hi, ALL OF IT! Or none of it! In my case all of it, and there is no preference ... except one ... there is a massive amount of instrumental and orchestral work in the archives that the Trust is not capable of defining or introducing to us, because they take things away from the guitar god ... and as such, what we know of music by this man, is probably not even close to the rest of the stuff. That's not to say that we have to have more ... he did enough for me to not have to worry about the someone senseless choice of which part if better ... I don't look at Picasso and say ... gee Pink Period? Blue Period? Bullsh*t Period? Cubist Period? ... I look at Picasso as a total artist and a painter that was not afraid to try the things he saw, understood and KNEW ... and I think of Frank Zappa the same way ... !!! Not a single period or year is better than any other. One note, btw ... 200 Motels is STILL one of the most adventurous films ever made, and helped define a lot of the stuff that later became ... special effects. And the material in it, just like the film, is off its rocker and a total acid trip ... but knowing what that meant for anyone on PA today is scary ... only a handfull of them will know what I'm saying and what Sunshine, Purple Haze and Mescaline were really like! ... and this movie is one of the best representations of it ... complete with insanity and off the wall paranoia ... a favorite theme that folks loved to scare dopsters with in those days!
Edited by moshkito - April 15 2013 at 15:29
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Posted: April 15 2013 at 15:42 |
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Some of the best drummers played with him for sure.
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