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Guldbamsen
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 16:28 |
^Add a little music description to your post and you've got yourself a very nice review
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Earendil
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 16:22 |
Hey everyone,
I've decided that Hubardo is as good as Choirs of the Eye (10 out of f**king 10), but in a different way. I feel that the two are towering pinnacles of what is musically possible, but because Hubardo is so much more "direct" musically than Choirs, I can't pick a winner.
frippism wrote:
while reading the lyrics (totally printed themmmmmm) |
I got them tattooed to my chest in reverse, so I can read them in the mirror. Just kidding, but I printed them too
HolyMoly wrote:
They're great lyrics as poetry, I just can't figure out what's supposed to be "going on". Toby said there's some storyline there, I just can't find it in the words. |
Yeah some of the specifics are foggy, but I love the subtle advantages of the lyrics being poetry. For example, there's repetition of themes like planting, watering, growing and the fact that it's poetry about a poet.
Also, I looked it up and "Hubardo" means "lamp" or "lantern" in Enochian, and I think the idea is that the poet is being guided throughout the story.
My understanding of it:
The poet finds the meteor that fell, which the townspeople have denounced as evil. The poet thinks it's beautiful and takes it home (all this is covered by songs 1-4). In song 5, Zlida Caosgi, it sounds like he is losing his sh*t, but I think the lyrics deal with the beginning of the "alchemical change" part of the story. What is actually happening though is anyones guess.
Now, from this point on, it would make a lot more sense if everything was metaphorical (or on the astral plane or something... the point of it is that it's the most intimate, introverted, and transcendent space there is, which is the realm of poetry) for the poet's alchemical transformation, as triggered by the meteor. In song 6, he goes to a secluded forest grove, and this is where the rest of the story takes place. In song 7, The Second Operation, is the turning point and key phrase in the transformation process: "Before he learned the poet's truth that life will never yield to Will". At this point, he finds the stream that grew in the grove, builds a boat and floats down the river. In song 10 (Passing the River), I think the boy that is referred to is the poet himself, that he is being "reborn". In the last song, The Wait of the World, he dies.
There's my take on it at this point, and I'd love to hear other interpretations or elaborations.
Edited by Earendil - September 03 2013 at 19:29
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HolyMoly
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 14:51 |
They're great lyrics as poetry, I just can't figure out what's supposed to be "going on". Toby said there's some storyline there, I just can't find it in the words.
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frippism
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 14:19 |
:( Steve they're so deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
frankly actually I like the lyrics quite a lot :D
they don't necessarily are completely clear, but it's pretty much some poet guy goin' bananas
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HolyMoly
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 14:15 |
I have to confess the lyrics make no sense to me at all. :o(
Cuz I suck
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frippism
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 14:13 |
cuz of the army I had a bit of a problem doing an entire sit down.
I'd usually just listening to a couple of songs and them just listen to them again and again and let them process for a while, while reading the lyrics (totally printed themmmmmm)
point being I just really really sat on this album unlike I did with any other album in a long time
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Padraic
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 14:10 |
frippism wrote:
aaaaaaaaaaaaaand just finished listening to the entirety after three days of incredibly demanding and rewarding listening.
Holy sh*t it is good |
I did a full listen this morning and I'm embarking on another one now.
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 14:02 |
aaaaaaaaaaaaaand just finished listening to the entirety after three days of incredibly demanding and rewarding listening.
Holy sh*t it is good
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twseel
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 10:53 |
Sorry, I removed them now.
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Dean
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 10:49 |
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Whatever you like |
We don't like. Remove the link and I'll unhide the post.
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The Neck Romancer
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 10:38 |
Padraic wrote:
If we don't support independent artists they cease to exist.
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More people should pay attention to this.
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twseel
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 10:27 |
Whatever you like
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Padraic
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 10:25 |
I'd like to see that taken down. The album is available for purchase at bandcamp, with a few songs available to stream.
I don't want to get in a file sharing debate, but c'mon, Toby Driver isn't getting wealthy off this. He's trying to cover costs and fund the making of this incredible music. If we don't support independent artists they cease to exist.
Do the right thing.
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Padraic
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 09:41 |
It's ludicrous how good this record is.
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pianoman
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Posted: September 02 2013 at 00:57 |
frippism wrote:
So far it is undoubtedly the best kd album |
Agreed.
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Posted: September 02 2013 at 00:04 |
So far it is undoubtedly the best kd album
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pianoman
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Posted: September 01 2013 at 23:00 |
What I love about this record is the shear intensity and diversity (quiet and heavy parts alike) that I never really felt since Dowsing, and Hubardo pulls off this quality better than Dowsing did. Another weird quality this album seems to have, is that it does NOT seem as long as it actually is. I was afraid the album was going to feel like it was dragging on, but in fact just the opposite is true. I think it is AOTY for me.
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Posted: September 01 2013 at 14:10 |
sleeper wrote:
Difficult to say at this point, it's definitely better than Dowsing Anemone...., Gamma Knife and even Blue Lambency Downward, as good as that album is, but how it compares to the stunning Coyote and classic Choirs... will take time.
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smartpatrol
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Posted: September 01 2013 at 11:55 |
So far I think it's my third favorite, behind Dowsing and Coyote
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sleeper
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Posted: September 01 2013 at 11:38 |
Difficult to say at this point, it's definitely better than Dowsing Anemone...., Gamma Knife and even Blue Lambency Downward, as good as that album is, but how it compares to the stunning Coyote and classic Choirs... will take time.
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