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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 44926 |
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Amazingly, that's the same ranking order I would put them in too.
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geekfreak ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 21 2013 Location: Musical Garden Status: Offline Points: 9877 |
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Mine too |
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1. Images and Words 2. Metropolis pt 2 3. Octavarium These are my "desert island" albums
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 44926 |
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I listened to the Awake album late at night once, but I fell asleep, so I didn't remember much about it in the morning.
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essexboyinwales ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: April 27 2015 Location: Bridgend Status: Offline Points: 5308 |
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Thanks for all the spirited defending of Awake, I don’t know why I find it so weak but after the brilliance of the first two albums I found it a real let down. I&W is so incredible to me, but Awake didn’t have the songs or the cohesiveness. Opinions eh?!!😂
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Sacro_Porgo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 15 2019 Location: Cygnus Status: Offline Points: 2062 |
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Despite how much A View has grown on me since it came out, I think I still wouldn't put it in that upper echelon. It comes down to melody for me, and A View just makes those strong, soaring DT melodies less of a thing, either by choice or perhaps because of James' aging vocal chords. DoT has some super catchy lead melodies, on pretty much every song too, even if many of them aren't too high. I will say this in favor of View though, it's the most perfect sounding DT album since, probably...Octavarium? Maybe Train Of Thought? ... honestly... thinking about it... it might just be their best sounding album period. The drums are exactly as heavy as they need to be to really pop out of the mix, without ever becoming distracting (like the snare on 6DOIT sometimes can be), the Jordan picks some absolutely killer tones for the keys. The guitars sit just right perfect in the mix (those first few solo guitar riffs of Sleeping Giant, panning form one channel to the other... mmm, so good), the bass is not only audible but has a bit more character than on many DT albums. And the vocals don't sound mixed back and drenched in effects like they sometimes do on DoT, plus the vocal harmonies (an area I'm not sure DT has never really prioritized until the past couple albums, which I've been enjoying hearing more of) are really cool in many places (Sleeping Giant again comes to mind). The whole mix is just really really pleasing, everything super tight and super punchy, but still warm and inviting and colorful. DoT sometimes felt cold.
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iluvmarillion ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 09 2010 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 3247 |
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Those three would have been my picks before the last two Dream Theater albums. However the last two are so good I would have them in the mix for the band's top three.
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Necrotica ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Colaborator Joined: July 28 2015 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 3407 |
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To quote the Wiki article: "In 2009, the band begun jamming on the song during their "Black Clouds & Silver Linings" tour, though the song was never played in its entirety until 2014, when it was performed at almost every concert of their "Along for the Ride Tour", along with the other songs making up the second half of the Awake album, in honor of the album's 20th anniversary. The song was included in the live album Breaking the Fourth Wall." Also, fun fact, 6:00 was about Moore's growing tensions with the rest of the band.
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 46443 |
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it's from 2014, probably during the tour promoting their self-titled album.
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Grumpyprogfan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 09 2019 Location: Kansas City Status: Offline Points: 12753 |
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^You got me, Cristi. Was this the only time they played the song? What year was this?
So let me update my statement. "Space-Dye Vest" was never played live when Portnoy was in the band, nor on the tour for "Awake". |
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 46443 |
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Grumpyprogfan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 09 2019 Location: Kansas City Status: Offline Points: 12753 |
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Lots of love for Kevin Moore in this thread, however, he checked out after Images and Words. His only musical contribution to Awake was Space-Dye Vest, a very odd tune that did not fit in with the rest of the album. I love Awake and Kevin's playing, but when DT were coming up with riffs and tunes for Awake Kevin was more interested in reading than participating with the band. Yes he contributed some lyrics on two songs, but that's it. The only reason Space-Dye Vest made the album was that the other DT members thought Kevin wanted to be with the band, so they allowed it. I'm sure if Kevin announced he was leaving the band before the album came out, his song would have never made the cut. This song has never been played live by DT.
Sure it's a matter of preference but I think DT's new keyboardists and drummers have been awesome. Derek, Jordan, and Mike want to be a part of the creative process of DT, where Kevin didn't. |
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Have had the devil of a time getting into DT since I first heard of them in 2008. Matter of fact, last year, 2021, was the first time I was able to get through an entire album while remaining attentive! And I liked it! (Awake) (though I've still been unable to psych myself up to write a review yet.... Which says a great deal, I think.)
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 46443 |
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I guess it's not in the poll because it's an EP. |
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mellotronwave ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 30 2021 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 11686 |
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No Change of the seasons in the Poll ?
Their best epic imho |
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nick_h_nz ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog Metal / Heavy Prog Team Joined: March 01 2013 Location: Suffolk, UK Status: Offline Points: 6742 |
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Really? That is bizarre to me, as it has always been a fan favourite. For years it was my favourite DT album by far. Kevin Moore really brought something to the band that has never been replaced. That’s not to suggest other DT keyboard players are not as good, by any means. But they don’t fill the gap he left. Awake is the pinnacle of Kevin Moore DT for me. The only Kevin Moore release that would beat it, would have been if A Change of Seasons had been released when he were still part of the band. (A Change of Seasons has always been my absolute favourite DT release, and I doubt that will ever change.) Space Dye Vest is probably my favourite DT song. It’s such a perfect closer to Awake, and it’s really all down to Moore. The band has never even attempted a song like this since. Basically, it comes down to preferences, and I don’t understand why you can not understand why Awake is liked so much, just because you don’t like it so much. You mention Metropolis 2. Well, that’s one of my least favourite DT albums, but I would never say I do not understand why it always is right up the top in any poll of discussion about DT’s album. You mention I&W, and actually it’s entirely reasonable that if I&W is up there, so will Awake be. It’s down to Kevin Moore again. The two releases are quite similar in sound, even if Awake is heavier. For me, I&W is a great album, that (to me) always seems to be on the precipice of something greater, but never quite gets there. It is full of latent potential, but never seems to realise it (despite having some absolute classic DT tracks). Awake realises that potential. That I&W resonates with so many DT fans is probably why Dramatic Turn of Events is doing as well as it is here. After a series of disappointing albums for many (though still loved by others, as evidenced here), Dramatic Turn was really getting back to the I&W sound. It’s a top five album for me, because it is a modern take on that classic sound. I found the eponymous album that followed extremely disappointing (and it’s one of my least favourite DT releases), and I wonder how much of that is because after what felt like I&W 2, I was expecting Awake 2? 🤔🤷🏻♂️ But then, one of my favourite DT albums is The Astonishing, so you can probably disregard everything I have said…. 😜 |
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Necrotica ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Colaborator Joined: July 28 2015 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 3407 |
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It's better than 6 Degrees though
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 46443 |
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great post ![]() My favorite DT album, loved it since it came out. I wish Kevin Moore would do some new music, in recent years he only guested on a few albums.
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Sacro_Porgo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 15 2019 Location: Cygnus Status: Offline Points: 2062 |
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Awake is my absolute favorite. The playing is heavier than I&W, which I dig, and the lyrics much more personal deal with struggling with one's religion, which is always a good topic to explore in my book. The songs and the atmospheres feel more ethereal to me, like cascading waves of emotion and passing through various stages of a dream, rather than the very composed nature of much of I&W. However it still retains that early DT enthusiasm and willingness to try anything that was on I&W as well. Sure, there's no really long concept piece like on 6 Degrees or Scenes, and no 20 minute epic like Octavarium or The Count Of Tuscany, and it isn't nearly as bright and colorful as I&W... but it makes up for all that for me in its fascinating depth. It's the kind of easy to overlook record of DT's golden years, but it's got it where it counts. Voices. 6:00. Lie. Space-Dye Vest. This is the sound of a band reaching for something beyond the reach of any other group on the planet at the time. Plus, it's probably James best performance on record. This was the last album he did before his major vocal injury, which did some level of permanent damage and affected the way he sings even to this day, certainly weakening his ability to hit high notes with great facility. I find the work he's done on all subsequent DT albums to be admirable and often very moving, and indeed some of it does better his vocals here. But overall there's not another full album length of James' singing that's as killer as this album. He pushed himself to emote more, to use more distortion and aggression where it made sense, and also I think to annunciate things a little bit more clearly than I&W, and it makes all the difference to my ears.
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