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Poll Question: Which band(s) do you like the best?
Poll Choice Votes Poll Statistics
8 [5.71%]
5 [3.57%]
7 [5.00%]
16 [11.43%]
3 [2.14%]
7 [5.00%]
7 [5.00%]
4 [2.86%]
9 [6.43%]
4 [2.86%]
1 [0.71%]
4 [2.86%]
5 [3.57%]
3 [2.14%]
2 [1.43%]
2 [1.43%]
2 [1.43%]
3 [2.14%]
10 [7.14%]
6 [4.29%]
1 [0.71%]
6 [4.29%]
17 [12.14%]
5 [3.57%]
3 [2.14%]
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    Posted: October 17 2023 at 21:50
As far as this poll goes (after i bothered to read what it was all about :D), i find that outside of Yes, Pink Floyd, King Crimson (first album), Mike Oldfield, Jethro Tull, Frank Zappa and maybe a few crossover acts like Rush, pop Genesis and Supertramp, non prog lovers know relatively few artists which is a crying shame. Many don't even know Yes or King Crimson.

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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

Discipline!
I feel they're underrated even in prog circles...

Really? Their albums are highly rated on here with high ratings. I wanted to add Jordsjo and Karfagen since I think both are really great bands but I don't think either are well known enough in prog circles. Maybe one day.


LOL. Discipline is #205 on PA with an overall rating of 4.14 by 2212 votes

On Rate  Your Music it's even higher ranking at #187 of ALL music ever recorded with an overall rating of 4.00 from 19,345 ratings.

Now tell me how in the world anyone could consider this classic underatted?

that actually suns up why I prefer PA over RYM anytime. Not a fan of the album at all and think its way over praised. IMO


You prefer PA over RYM for the reason of Discipline having less ratings? Um... seems extreme!

Discipline is as much a new wave album as a prog album. It's one of the rare crossover albums that is popular on both sides of the fence. I love the album but also find it loved more by others than myself. Still a solid 4 star album though. Belew's guitar work is unique and classic.

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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

Discipline!
I feel they're underrated even in prog circles...

Really? Their albums are highly rated on here with high ratings. I wanted to add Jordsjo and Karfagen since I think both are really great bands but I don't think either are well known enough in prog circles. Maybe one day.


LOL. Discipline is #205 on PA with an overall rating of 4.14 by 2212 votes

On Rate  Your Music it's even higher ranking at #187 of ALL music ever recorded with an overall rating of 4.00 from 19,345 ratings.

Now tell me how in the world anyone could consider this classic underatted?

that actually suns up why I prefer PA over RYM anytime. Not a fan of the album at all and think its way over praised. IMO
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^ ah! Sorry my bad!

Well in that case Discipline has two albums in the PA top 250

Unfolded Like a Staircase at #117
To Shatter All Accord at #152

On RYM Unfolded is all time top album at #4077
Shatter is all time top album at #8304

Not as popular as the big prog bands but still not bad

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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

Discipline!
I feel they're underrated even in prog circles...


Really? Their albums are highly rated on here with high ratings. I wanted to add Jordsjo and Karfagen since I think both are really great bands but I don't think either are well known enough in prog circles. Maybe one day.


LOL. Discipline is #205 on PA with an overall rating of 4.14 by 2212 votes

On Rate  Your Music it's even higher ranking at #187 of ALL music ever recorded with an overall rating of 4.00 from 19,345 ratings.

Now tell me how in the world anyone could consider this classic underatted?


They are talking about the band Discipline, not the King Crimson album.

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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

Discipline!
I feel they're underrated even in prog circles...

Really? Their albums are highly rated on here with high ratings. I wanted to add Jordsjo and Karfagen since I think both are really great bands but I don't think either are well known enough in prog circles. Maybe one day.


LOL. Discipline is #205 on PA with an overall rating of 4.14 by 2212 votes

On Rate  Your Music it's even higher ranking at #187 of ALL music ever recorded with an overall rating of 4.00 from 19,345 ratings.

Now tell me how in the world anyone could consider this classic underatted?

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Banco, The Flower Kings and Gentle Giant. Not necessarily my favorites of the bunch but the ones I feel deserve more votes.
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I could pick at least 8 out of these, but I choose Big Big Train, Discipline and Magma.
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Camel, Eloy, Renaissance, but all are great
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

As AFlowerKingCrimson is the one asking the question, I'm inspired by his way of thinking. So naturally the band I like the most who's "Big in prog circles but mostly unknown elsewhere" has got to be Pink Floyd

You are such a troll. If I could ban you from this website believe me I would. Aside from that apparently you never got past first grade English since you don't know to add a period after a sentence.
Still I'm quite certain I'm better at writing in English than you are writing in my first language.

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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

As AFlowerKingCrimson is the one asking the question, I'm inspired by his way of thinking. So naturally the band I like the most who's "Big in prog circles but mostly unknown elsewhere" has got to be Pink Floyd

You are such a troll. If I could ban you from this website believe me I would. Aside from that apparently you never got past first grade English since you don't know to add a period after a sentence.
Still I'm quite certain I'm better at writing in English than you are writing in my first language.
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^ Henry Cow almost made my list (see my first post) and while UZ weren't really a band I was thinking of I do recognize their importance in RIO and prog in general. After all (like I said) they did headline Nearfest one year. Even Echolyn, Anglagard and the Flower Kings never headlined Nearfest. So theoretically I could have and maybe should have included them. 

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^ I doubt if Henry Cow and Univers Zero would be on anyone's list of the biggest prog bands. Smile
 
Henry Cow and Univers Zero are two of the original members of the Rock in Opposition movement, so in terms of bigness in prog circles, they are a cut above the run-of-the-mill avant-prog groups.
 
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ I doubt if Henry Cow and Univers Zero would be on anyone's list of the biggest prog bands. Smile

They are the biggest two Avant prog bands and are unknown outside of prog so I think they meet the criteria. They are my personal choices and I don't particular value your opinion on anything avant.

And I'm sure Paul wouldn't trust your opinion on anything neo. 
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ I doubt if Henry Cow and Univers Zero would be on anyone's list of the biggest prog bands. Smile

They are the biggest two Avant prog bands and are unknown outside of prog so I think they meet the criteria. They are my personal choices and I don't particular value your opinion on anything avant.

And I'm sure Paul wouldn't trust your opinion on anything neo. 
Ian probably has more Neo Prog albums than I do. I only have six albums by Marillion and that's it! Embarrassed
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ I doubt if Henry Cow and Univers Zero would be on anyone's list of the biggest prog bands. Smile

They are the biggest two Avant prog bands and are unknown outside of prog so I think they meet the criteria. They are my personal choices and I don't particular value your opinion on anything avant.

And I'm sure Paul wouldn't trust your opinion on anything neo. 

He would be fully correct to not trust my opinion on neo. I have a very small collection and no in depth knowledge about neo.
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ I doubt if Henry Cow and Univers Zero would be on anyone's list of the biggest prog bands. Smile

They are the biggest two Avant prog bands and are unknown outside of prog so I think they meet the criteria. They are my personal choices and I don't particular value your opinion on anything avant.

And I'm sure Paul wouldn't trust your opinion on anything neo. 
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