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Nogbad_The_Bad 
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Well I own Mindcrime even though it doesn't really do much for me. I listened to Talk Talk for the first time today and quite enjoyed it. I heard elements of Velvet Underground, Stones & REM. Doubt I'll buy it but it gets the vote.
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Ian
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Komandant Shamal
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Svetonio
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Posted: August 03 2015 at 23:58 |
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Operation: Mindcrime
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dr wu23
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Posted: August 04 2015 at 11:26 |
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Talk Talk !...........saw 2 used Queesnryche cd's at the local record store the other day and passed them by. Never got into them.
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twalsh
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Posted: August 04 2015 at 16:01 |
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Before PA, I thought Talk Talk was only a pop band. I like hwo they sound, but Mindcrime was my favorite recording for years. Shame QR has released so little of note since 1994. Suite Sister Mary would have been a better, 'proggier' song selection.
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More heavy prog, please!
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SteveG
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Posted: August 04 2015 at 16:37 |
My mind is a crime! 
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Nightfly
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Posted: August 04 2015 at 16:38 |
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Queensrhyche.
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Polymorphia
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Posted: August 04 2015 at 16:57 |
 Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Well I own Mindcrime even though it doesn't really do much for me. I listened to Talk Talk for the first time today and quite enjoyed it. I heard elements of Velvet Underground, Stones & REM. Doubt I'll buy it but it gets the vote. |
Laughing Stock is probably even more in your direction. A bit more subdued, but a bit further left field. Considered, along with Slint's Spiderland, the beginning of post-rock.
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t d wombat
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Thinking that myself. Mickey .... was there any serious attempt at setting a cut off point for Modern v Classic or was the final decision simply a refusal to be dictated too by the outdated rules, regulations and traditions of the English language ?  Anywho .... some albums I simply cannot make all the way through so forgive me if I am wrong but from what I hear of Queensryche they appear to be nowt but yet another Deep Purple wannabe. Otoh, I do like Talk Talk though I've always lumped them in what I'd think of as Prog Lite with such outfits as Simple Minds, Ultravox, Japan and the like. I confess though that by the time Eden was released I wasn't listening to them at all. Nice album. Wish I'd been aware of it back in the day.
Edited by t d wombat - August 04 2015 at 21:21
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Andrew B
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Man With Hat
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Posted: August 04 2015 at 20:13 |
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Can both lose?
I guess Mindcrime.
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b_olariu
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Posted: August 05 2015 at 02:59 |
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Operation: Mindcrime (1988) - Queensryche by far
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micky
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Posted: August 05 2015 at 04:49 |
twalsh wrote:
Suite Sister Mary would have been a better, 'proggier' song selection. |
which is why that was used for the 1st round poll... I do try to avoid using the same samples
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micky
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Posted: August 05 2015 at 05:51 |
t d wombat wrote:
Thinking that myself. Mickey .... was there any serious attempt at setting a cut off point for Modern v Classic or was the final decision simply a refusal to be dictated too by the outdated rules, regulations and traditions of the English language ?
Anywho .... some albums I simply cannot make all the way through so forgive me if I am wrong but from what I hear of Queensryche they appear to be nowt but yet another Deep Purple wannabe.
Otoh, I do like Talk Talk though I've always lumped them in what I'd think of as Prog Lite with such outfits as Simple Minds, Ultravox, Japan and the like. I confess though that by the time Eden was released I wasn't listening to them at all. Nice album. Wish I'd been aware of it back in the day.
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I posted this way back in the tournament threads. The whole matter and actual year of the dividing date was something we heavily discussed and debated. The first notion was to use Neo as that dividing point.. from the classic where they were aping Genesis to later when they started aping PT  it worked until we saw that ..ahem.. prog is not all symphonic and aping and mimicking the classics. Post-Rock and prog metal. Both had their beginning in our haphazardly designated cut off which so we shifted the cut date into the 80's for the modern to take into account the beginning of prog metal and Post-Rock. All agreed they would be horribly out of place in the 'classic' prog section.
Edited by micky - August 05 2015 at 05:58
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Posted: August 05 2015 at 06:08 |
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^ and on that note.. we are already into the 3rd age... in 10 years when we revisit these contests. Be prepared for 3 brackets. Classic prog, modern prog, and the post prog, the age of progressive music.
the dividing line.. 2011 when prog flatlined. The cancellation of Nearfest when prog and progressive audiences fractured. Prog bands went after prog fans.. progressive bands went after music fans.
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t d wombat
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Posted: August 05 2015 at 17:29 |
micky wrote:
^ and on that note.. we are already into the 3rd age... in 10 years when we revisit these contests. Be prepared for 3 brackets. Classic prog, modern prog, and the post prog, the age of progressive music.
the dividing line.. 2011 when prog flatlined. The cancellation of Nearfest when prog and progressive audiences fractured. Prog bands went after prog fans.. progressive bands went after music fans.
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Ten Years ? Wow ... what do we all do in the meantime ? Still and all by then it will be hopefully a better more mature world where Secret Chiefs 3 do not lose out to IQ. Oh callow youth. Oh lord I can see it now .... umpteen discussions as too whether or not the sons and daughters of Gabriel et al should get together for a Sprogs of Genesis Tour. 
Edited by t d wombat - August 05 2015 at 17:30
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Andrew B
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Talk Talk all the way 
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proggman
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Posted: August 05 2015 at 19:15 |
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Queensr˙che, Operation: Mindcrime.
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When he rides, my fears subside.
For darkness turns once more to light.
Through the skies, his white horse flies.
To find a land beyond the night.
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micky
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Posted: August 06 2015 at 18:15 |
t d wombat wrote:
micky wrote:
^ and on that note.. we are already into the 3rd age... in 10 years when we revisit these contests. Be prepared for 3 brackets. Classic prog, modern prog, and the post prog, the age of progressive music.
the dividing line.. 2011 when prog flatlined. The cancellation of Nearfest when prog and progressive audiences fractured. Prog bands went after prog fans.. progressive bands went after music fans.
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Ten Years ? Wow ... what do we all do in the meantime ?
Still and all by then it will be hopefully a better more mature world where Secret Chiefs 3 do not lose out to IQ. Oh callow youth.
Oh lord I can see it now .... umpteen discussions as too whether or not the sons and daughters of Gabriel et al should get together for a Sprogs of Genesis Tour.
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easy... do what we've done for the last 10 years... expand your horizons and explore the current music out there and prepare for the next batch of polls. Who knows.. when some jealous husband puts a bullet through my filthy hide.. or my beloved wife cuts my heart out.. you just might have to step into the McShoes and run the next one As far as the forum... ahhh... don't worry. I'm sure the site is much
more womanly than we'd guess. This place used to be a madhouse.. where the admins used to have to put sawdust down on the floor to soak up the blood.. then it became a limp wristed hang-out for those wanting a peaceful sojourn from the rigors of real life... haha..yahn... pussies. Nothing eased the stresses of real life than beating DT fans over the heads with tire irons.... Wait a year or two and the mood and
demeanor here will change again.. my reappearance is just the first sign of the impending forumpocalyse. When you see Tony R come back.. then hide the women and children... it will be high noon 24/7 on main street in the hardbitten frontier settlement known as Prog Archives. Yeah the forum is dull.. the polls a nice vacation from the tedium.. but it won't last.
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t d wombat
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Andrew B
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Polymorphia
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Posted: August 06 2015 at 20:38 |
micky wrote:
^ and on that note.. we are already into the 3rd age... in 10 years when we revisit these contests. Be prepared for 3 brackets. Classic prog, modern prog, and the post prog, the age of progressive music.
the dividing line.. 2011 when prog flatlined. The cancellation of Nearfest when prog and progressive audiences fractured. Prog bands went after prog fans.. progressive bands went after music fans.
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That could explain why I don't like a lot of traditionally prog albums after 2010. Almost all of the ones I like are metal with the occasional avant album.
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2nd Round Moderns: Spirit of Eden v. Op. Mindcrime
