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Cristi
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Naminanu and Keep It Dark are also good IMO.
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Manuel
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Certainly one of Genesis weaker albums.
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Deadwing
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The problem with Naminanu is don't really know where to put the track haha, it's a fun listen indeed though.
I'm not much a fan of Keep It Dark, but it has been a while I didn't listen to it though.
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twosteves
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Yes I like this version too. Voted it’s ok buy meh - as I’m skipping a lot of songs
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Lewian
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^ This!
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Mormegil
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Not one of their best, but still a good listen.
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Welcome to the middle of the film.
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Steve Wyzard
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I am the only one to vote for "Love it - One of the best Genesis albums". In fact, I will even take the next logical step and also say it's my very favorite Genesis album, slightly ahead of Selling England by the Pound.
I had heard a number of Genesis songs on the radio, but nothing really grabbed me until hearing this album's title track. I rushed out to buy it, and Abacab became my introduction to all things Genesis. It was only much later, after hearing all the other albums, that I found out how controversial this album was with the fanbase. Yes, it's very different from anything else they've ever done, but what a risk they took to completely update and re-invent their sound. Sure, having Hugh Padgham and a brand new recording studio went a long way toward reaching this goal, but this album still sounds brilliant and amazes me to this day. So if you want to know who to blame for my very unpopular choice, I'll just say it was my first Genesis album, and the times, places, and people that were part of my life in 1981/1982. Go ahead and say it: nostalgia/sentimentalism. I will conclude by saying that I consider "Dodo/Lurker" and "Me and Sarah Jane" to be among the best things the band has ever done, and that none of the extra songs from the same sessions that have appeared on various releases have ever impressed me: they picked the perfect 9 songs for a 50-minute album. |
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suitkees
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Nope, I'll join you. I wouldn't dare to say it's the best Genesis album, but since the option says "one of the best", that's enough for me too. And much for the same reasons. It is the Genesis album I listen most often to.
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The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
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Syzygy
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I like it, but only a little. It was all downhill after Duke, but any album that contains Dodo/Lurker isn't totally irredeemable, and some of the songs were better onstage - 3 Sides Live breathes some life into them.
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Deadwing
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The live version of Abacab is so much better than the studio one for me haha the outro is fantastic and the final crescendo live is my favourite part
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b_olariu
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I like it but it's not one of their best- it's good
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Big Sky
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I like it. Last good album Genesis made. Doesn't come close to their 70s classic albums, but I gave it a good listen back in the day. Liked the title track first time I heard it and I am quite fond of Keep it Dark and Dodo/Lurker.
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Jared
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I agree with you completely; 3SL took the best bits and made them sound as good as was possible, but I'm no fan of any of the shorter, poppier works and don't have Abacab in my collection (I stopped at Duke).
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Rick1
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^ I also stopped at Duke but I did get Three Sides Live, which I still think is great!
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Jared
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3SL certainly does justice to the Duke/ Abacab material it covers. I have similar feelings about Abacab as I do about MO's Crises... I quite enjoy side 1 occasionally despite the brash 80's sound, but find side 2 unplayable..
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richardh
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Having absolutely hated it when it was first released ( the end of prog omg) I recently decided to get the deluxe remastered edition. It's just a real pain of an album to sum up. Possibly their most daring release as there is simply no other reference point for it I can think of. Who were they copying or being influenced by at the time?! Not obvious to me at all. Abacab, Dodo/Lurker and Keep It Dark are fantastic tracks imo. Much of the rest I care a little less for but then there are only 3 tracks on SEBTP that I really care for. As said we have to hate it because it was a watershed moment when prog in its original form was perhaps coming to an end. You have to fight the 'bad nostalgia' of the moment to even give it a chance.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Well, why do so many people say this was the beginning of their pop era and not Duke? Abacab has the title track and Dodo and Lurker on it? Duke has the Duke's Travel's end and Duchess but what else on Duke is really full on prog? To me they are both equally split between prog and pop.
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dr wu23
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I like it but only a little - It's ok or meh
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mellotronwave
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3SL was particularly good in its 4SL version
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Steve Wyzard
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Tony Banks, on Abacab:
"On that particular record, we were trying to get away from what was, at that point, traditionally Genesis, which was quite flowery and fantasy, and to go to something that was much more stark and abstract. That's why we went for an abstract art painting on the front, and gave it this abstract title, Abacab, so that it didn't conjure up any particular emotion at all. We started with a kind of blank canvas. It worked well as both a song and an album title, I think." The whole interview: |
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