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Poll Question: Which KGLW studio albums are your favorites?
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    Posted: June 25 2023 at 11:42
I made this poll in 2021, but it's dated by now. 24 studio albums since 2012, and I think all of them sans their debut and Butterfly 3000 are at least really good - most of them fantastic really. Vote for your favorite ones. I'm gonna have to vote for my five 4.5 stars. How about you?

4.5 stars:

Changes
Infest the Rats' Nest
Polygondwanaland
Nonagon Infinity
PetroDragonic Apocalypse(; or, Dawn of Eternal Night: An Annihilation of Planet Earth and the Beginning of - Merciless Damnation)

4 stars:

Sketches of Brunswick East
Made in Timeland
Laminated Denim
Ice, Death, Planets, Lungs, Mushrooms and Lava
Omnium Gatherum
K.G.
L.W.
Flying Microtonal Banana
Gumboot Soup

3.5 stars:

Murder of the Universe
Paper Mâché Dream Balloon
Oddments
Quarters!
I'm in Your Mind Fuzz
Eyes Like the Sky
Float Along - Fill Your Lungs
Fishing for Fishies

3 stars:

Butterfly 3000

2.5 stars:

12 Bar Bruise:

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I voted for Murder of the Universe, Quarters, and Changes. I think those are their best and the ones I'd give a 4.0+, with the first one being a 4.5.

For their others, I haven't listened to all of them, and probably never will, but I'd have them as this. Note that these are ratings for when I'm sober - when I'm high, these ratings change significantly:

3.5:
L.W.
Butterfly 3000
Petrodragon, etc. (just one listen - people seem to be raving about this one, so I'll have to listen to it again and see if I should rate it higher, since it's supposedly so good)
I'm in Your Mind Fuzz
Infest the Rats Nest
Paper Mache Dream Balloon
Flying Microtonal Banana

3.0:
K.G.
Polygondwanaland
Ice, Death, etc.
Sketches of Brunswick East
Eyes Like the Sky

2.5:
Nonagon Infinity
Laminated Denim

The rest I just don't know enough about yet.


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Originally posted by bardberic bardberic wrote:

I voted for Murder of the Universe, Quarters, and Changes. I think those are their best and the ones I'd give a 4.0+, with the first one being a 4.5.
Murder of the Universe is the only one I've grown a little out of love for. I had it among my fourths in the previous poll, and now it's dropped to three 3.5 or 7/10. The music is sort of great throughout, but I don't feel that all the 21 snippets of music are perferctly sewn together. The transitions leave a little to be desired - and I think the project/concept is better "on paper" than their execution. With King Gizz I often feel it's the opposite: not the strongest or most convincing of concepts, but so well and entertainingly executed that they win me over anyway:)


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I've been obsessed with these guys lately, but I've only gotten through 12 of their albums so far, though I've nearly completed my CD collection at least, with just Oddments and the Anglesea EP to go. Here's my opinion on the 12 albums I have heard so far:

5 stars:
Nonagon Infinity - I have to agree with popular opinion here, a great mix of proggy elements, heavy energy and their distinctive fuzz and feedback sound
Polygondwanaland - Great mysterious sound and fun polyrhythms

4.5 stars:
Butterfly 3000 - Much more interesting and proggy than I'd initially expected, and very uplifting
Sketches of Brunswick East - Absurdly underrated, since it's probably the album with the best song transitions/flow, and some of their best psychedelic, dreamy moments
Fishing For Fishies - Just a really fun idea to mix the boogie rock rhythm with different styles and some proggy time signatures

4 stars:
Float Along - Fill Your Lungs - Great mix of psych stuff and more poppy stuff, though it still feels like a collection of songs rather than a unified, flowing album
Infest The Rats' Nest - In hindsight it shouldn't have been a surprise to me that the best thrash metal album of the 21st century doesn't come from a legacy band or retro-revival band
Flying Microtonal Banana - I don't think I like this as much as a lot of KGLW fans, but I can't give it less than 4 stars either
K.G. - Cool mix of different moods with the microtonal stuff, which makes it less repetitive than Banana, but feels a bit run-of-the-mill for their standards as well. But in a way it shows how good these guys are if I think a rather average album by them is still worth 4 stars

3.5 stars:
Quarters! - Nice, but it does get old a bit after repeated listens
12 Bar Bruise - Rather simple, but you can already hear Stu's songwriting skills through the ear-splitting production and mastering

3 stars:
Eyes Like The Sky - Nice idea, but musically not very interesting. At least it established right from the get go (perhaps coincidentally) that any KGLW album will be different than the next

I'll be voting for my top 3. I hope that sometime next year I'll be caught up with them, so I can get excited about them announcing a new album, instead of getting stressed out about it.
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Originally posted by Stressed Cheese Stressed Cheese wrote:

I've been obsessed with these guys lately, but I've only gotten through 12 of their albums so far, though I've nearly completed my CD collection at least, with just Oddments and the Anglesea EP to go. Here's my opinion on the 12 albums I have heard so far:

5 stars:
Nonagon Infinity - I have to agree with popular opinion here, a great mix of proggy elements, heavy energy and their distinctive fuzz and feedback sound
Polygondwanaland - Great mysterious sound and fun polyrhythms

4.5 stars:
Butterfly 3000 - Much more interesting and proggy than I'd initially expected, and very uplifting
Sketches of Brunswick East - Absurdly underrated, since it's probably the album with the best song transitions/flow, and some of their best psychedelic, dreamy moments
Fishing For Fishies - Just a really fun idea to mix the boogie rock rhythm with different styles and some proggy time signatures

4 stars:
Float Along - Fill Your Lungs - Great mix of psych stuff and more poppy stuff, though it still feels like a collection of songs rather than a unified, flowing album
Infest The Rats' Nest - In hindsight it shouldn't have been a surprise to me that the best thrash metal album of the 21st century doesn't come from a legacy band or retro-revival band
Flying Microtonal Banana - I don't think I like this as much as a lot of KGLW fans, but I can't give it less than 4 stars either
K.G. - Cool mix of different moods with the microtonal stuff, which makes it less repetitive than Banana, but feels a bit run-of-the-mill for their standards as well. But in a way it shows how good these guys are if I think a rather average album by them is still worth 4 stars

3.5 stars:
Quarters! - Nice, but it does get old a bit after repeated listens
12 Bar Bruise - Rather simple, but you can already hear Stu's songwriting skills through the ear-splitting production and mastering

3 stars:
Eyes Like The Sky - Nice idea, but musically not very interesting. At least it established right from the get go (perhaps coincidentally) that any KGLW album will be different than the next

I'll be voting for my top 3. I hope that sometime next year I'll be caught up with them, so I can get excited about them announcing a new album, instead of getting stressed out about it.

I feel like Buttrfly 3000 is King Gizz's most consistently midrange album - it's always ranked fairly high, but never top tier among the band's fans, but it's also never ranked low. It's interesting how everyone has a good, but not exceptional vibe with this album. Although, stoned bardberic would consider this one of the greatest albums of all time LOL
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by bardberic bardberic wrote:

I voted for Murder of the Universe, Quarters, and Changes. I think those are their best and the ones I'd give a 4.0+, with the first one being a 4.5.
Murder of the Universe is the only one I've grown a little out of love for. I had it among my fourths in the previous poll, and now it's dropped to three 3.5 or 7/10. The music is sort of great throughout, but I don't feel that all the 21 snippets of music are perferctly sewn together. The transitions leave a little to be desired - and I think the project/concept is better "on paper" than their execution. With King Gizz I often feel it's the opposite: not the strongest or most convincing of concepts, but so well and entertainingly executed that they win me over anyway:)
MotU was actually my introduction to King Gizz - it was my first album from them. I actually got it blindly at the record store. I heard of King Gizzard before, but never listened to them. I just really liked the album art, and there was a sticker on it that said "vomit green colored vinyl," and the shade of green on the artwork is like my favorite color. I thought it was going to be some psychedelic doom metal album, based on the artwork. I loved it upon my first play hehe LOL Sometimes albums are just a perfect match for you, you know?

The transitions were actually a turn off at first, but I've grown to actually like it, because they add a sense of chaos to the music. This is the only Gizz album that really hasn't grown tiring for me, yet. Polygondwanaland, also, hasn't seemed to have gotten stale, but I never really liked it nearly as much as most other fans do (although Crumbling Castle is easily the band's best song overall, and even a top tier prog song for me, but the rest of the album can't even touch it) - I never understood the big deal, though tbf again it hasn't grown stale after repeated listens (except for the song Inner Cell, that one got boring). Flying Microtonal Banana was sorinigally ranked much higher for me, even surpassing MotU at one point, but it's kind of grown stale after repeated listens, for example. MotU holds up for me.


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^You make it sound very attractive again. I'm gonna give it a relisten. Oh, there's also the "ever present" softly spoken word. Quite lovely at first really but after a while gets a little distracting. I think I prefer more abstracted storylines, the music does most of the talking. 
Originally posted by Stressed Cheese Stressed Cheese wrote:

Flying Microtonal Banana - I don't think I like this as much as a lot of KGLW fans, but I can't give it less than 4 stars either
Yes, that's exactly how I feel.  

Originally posted by Stressed Cheese Stressed Cheese wrote:

Infest The Rats' Nest - In hindsight it shouldn't have been a surprise to me that the best thrash metal album of the 21st century doesn't come from a legacy band or retro-revival band
Three of my favorite four albums are on the heavier side of things. I think by not primarely being a metal band themselves, KG&LW are somehow better at making albums about the end of the world and such - an wildly exhilarating fun and enjoyable ride. Something metal used to be great at, without even trying. Plus they know how to make those memorable riffs. I'm generalizing but most modern metal bands are tight, extremely good at what they do, but slightly faceless and often no fun. I actually prefer Stu's poppier, gentler singing style. Still in in the context of something resembling metal, it's refreshing with a voice that isn't Mr. generic growler number one millionth, but more of a human voice. 
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I know four of these, of which I like L.W. and Polygondwanaland.
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Out of the 11 I have listened to, my top 3 are Nonagon Infinity, Polygondwanaland, and Omnium Gatherum.
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So far it seems everyone sans bardberic loves Polygondwanaland, while Nonagon Infinity is the second most popular. Hardly surprising. Not enough votes to draw any kind of conclusions from really. But I had a feeling Flying Microtonal Banana was more popular outside of PA. And maybe I'm right about that. Or maybe not. Imo there's not a single bad song on it, and I enjoy the Turkish psych-vibes - so still a four out of five from me. But as a full album it does come across as somewhat uneventful and samey. At times. And could it be that this microtonal thing sounds more exciting than it really is?


 


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Originally posted by bardberic bardberic wrote:


I feel like Buttrfly 3000 is King Gizz's most consistently midrange album - it's always ranked fairly high, but never top tier among the band's fans, but it's also never ranked low. It's interesting how everyone has a good, but not exceptional vibe with this album. Although, stoned bardberic would consider this one of the greatest albums of all time LOL

I feel like it usually ranks quite low on rating websites compared to most of their albums, including on RYM and here. I guess it might stray too far from what some people expect from KGLW

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

I think by not primarely being a metal band themselves, KG&LW are somehow better at making albums about the end of the world and such - an wildly exhilarating fun and enjoyable ride. Something metal used to be great at, without even trying. Plus they know how to make those memorable riffs. I'm generalizing but most modern metal bands are tight, extremely good at what they do, but slightly faceless and often no fun. I actually prefer Stu's poppier, gentler singing style. Still in in the context of something resembling metal, it's refreshing with a voice that isn't Mr. generic growler number one millionth, but more of a human voice. 

I think a lot of thrash metal bands from this century stick too close to the golden days of the genre. Just like with bands that try to do 70's style prog, I prefer to listen to the originals rather than modern-day tributes. You can just tell they're derivative, and despite the sometimes terrible production of old thrash bands, I still prefer the sound of the 80's/90's for thrash overall. So KGLW's original take on the genre is very welcome IMO. There's a decent amount of people who saw Infest as a non-metal band intruding on the genre, but I'd much rather have this than 72 Seasons.

As for the poppier singing style, he does do metal vocals on ITRN, but I kind of wish he hadn't. The contrast between the fast riffs and the more operatic vocals of Joey Belladonna is one of the reasons I like Anthrax so much, and had KGLW stuck to that idea they would've further set themselves apart from the generic thrash crowd.

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

And could it be that this microtonal thing sounds more exciting than it really is?

Honestly, I kinda think so. It sounds exotic, but from their microtonal albums it feels more same-y/limited than just our classic 12-TET scale. But then, I'm no expert on microtonality.
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[QUOTE=bardberic]
 Note that these are ratings for when I'm sober - when I'm high, these ratings change significantly:

Haha, love that

As the resident King Gizz Super fan in these parts, here's where I stand.

5 Stars:
Live at Red Rocks (I was there!)
I'm In Your Mind Fuzz
Nonagon Infinity (back in college, me and my drummer friend used to jam this album front to back with me on guitar)

4.5 Stars:
Ice Death Planets Lungs Mushrooms and Lava
Polygondwanaland
L.W.
Infest the Rats Nest
Petrodragonic Apocalypse
Laminated Denim
Flying Microtonal Banana

4 Stars
Gumboot Soup
Fishing For Fishies
K.G.
Murder of the Universe
Changes (Change, the title track, is one of the best and most proggy Gentle Giant-esque things they've ever done)
Sketches of Brunswick East
Quarters
Float Along Fill Your Lungs

3.5 Stars
Omnium Gatherum (The Dripping Tap, their best song)
Paper Mache Dream Balloon

3 Stars
Butterfly 3000

2.5
Oddments, 12 Bar Bruise, Eyes Like the Sky


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Don't skip Made in Timeland folks. This track (or the B-side) in particular is such a trip! 
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3.5 stars:
I'm in Your Mind Fuzz

Sorry, it's clearly (at least) a four. I just a bore.
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Of the 12 KG LizWiz albums I've reviewed (so far), only one has achieved five star status: 

2022's Changes.


Four star albums:
2014's Quarters !
2017's Flying Microtonal Banana and Polygondwandaland
2022's Omnium Gatherum, Ice, Death, Planets, Lungs, Mushrooms and Lava, and Laminated Denim
2023's PetroDragonic Apocalypse;  or,  Dawn of Eternal Night:  An Annihilation of Planet Earth and the Beginning of Merciless Damnation
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Despite being similar conceptually, I enjoyed Laminated Denim much more than Made in Timeland. Great to see Doug M back (for now)! Didn't see Timeland on your list there.
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Despite being similar conceptually, I enjoyed Laminated Denim much more than Made in Timeland. Great to see Doug M back (for now)! Didn't see Timeland on your list there.
I think everyone except for me does (I enjoy both about as much). Made in Timeland is pretty much their least popular, least listened to and lowest rated album. It hasn't really been easily available for long either. That's why I felt like giving it some love. Laminated Denim is two krauty psychedelic jams, and obviously more pleasing for the average fan. As in totally in line of what to excpect from a KG&LW-release. And great. I'm sure you know Made in Timeland was originally made as intermission music to play at concerts in between their planned live-marathon sets (which was postponed by covid). That makes a whole lot of sense to me. But unsurprisingly KG&LW intermission music is right up my alley. To me it feels like a 2020's (or 2019) take on early Kraftwerk/NEU!/Harmonia/Cluster sort of EBM//Motorik* "rock" that doesn't rock. Ever evolving, playful, actually quite complex, but lovely and easy on the ears.

Btw: try these two "sister albums" as an hourlong double. Like this:

1. Timeland
2. The Land Before Timeland
3. Smoke & Mirrors
4. Hypertension

To me it seriously lifts them both to a higher level.
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Awesoreno! King Gizz threads always pull me out of the shadows! Honestly forgot about Timeland when I was putting that list together, both the tracks have some really great moments, especially Smoke and Mirrors. I think as a whole the structure of the songs and sometimes random trajectory of them can lose me in certain sections, but I think it's a fun record. Laminated Denim on the other hand rings as a great little psyched out sleeper pick in their discography 
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Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

Of the 12 KG LizWiz albums I've reviewed (so far), only one has achieved five star status: 

2022's Changes.


Four star albums:
2014's Quarters !
2017's Flying Microtonal Banana and Polygondwandaland
2022's Omnium Gatherum, Ice, Death, Planets, Lungs, Mushrooms and Lava, and Laminated Denim
2023's PetroDragonic Apocalypse;  or,  Dawn of Eternal Night:  An Annihilation of Planet Earth and the Beginning of Merciless Damnation



Glad I'm not the only one to recognize this album's brilliance
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