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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2008 at 09:33
LOLLOL he even remembers the date!! *jokingly gives 'im a few headlock noogies*
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2008 at 09:39
It feels like yesterday Wink. Found it around page 50...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2008 at 09:44
And Ryan; what do you think about Concerto Grosso Per I New Trolls?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2008 at 12:56
Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

And Ryan; what do you think about Concerto Grosso Per I New Trolls?
it's not bad...not great either.  My opinion is similar to yours but it's been a while since I've heard the thing.  The parts they improvised on are the weakest IMO, and I liked the Hendrix/Kath inspired parts and of course the opening part where the orchestra comes in.  At some point I'll have to do a comparison between this one and the third one, because they must be close, quality-wise.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2008 at 12:57
I see. Well, I won't venture further into the New Trolls discography for a while...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2008 at 13:09
haha...yea you and JIm.  He's not a big fan either.  I'd like 'em better if di Scalzi had more room to let loose with the electric strings.  That's why I might like the Atomic System (and I think he had another band afterwards? Ibis?)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2008 at 17:31
Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:


Banco - the self titled debut


It was the very start of my "italomania", and I still think it is the best starting point.
 
well... 'Moneybox' album is also my RPI start in 1990 in MC format. Today I've also a CD copy!
 
Great album...Great album!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2008 at 18:06
^ Till now I have not heard greater RPI (and not only RPI) album.

By the way, Andrea, all these Italian things started for me in your hometown, Trieste. But that's another story, probably I'll make a post about it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2008 at 19:03
Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

^ Till now I have not heard greater RPI (and not only RPI) album.

By the way, Andrea, all these Italian things started for me in your hometown, Trieste. But that's another story, probably I'll make a post about it.
 
Hey... I'm from Pordenone... Not from Trieste!!! ShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedEmbarrassedEmbarrassedEmbarrassedEmbarrassedEmbarrassedSmileSmileSmileSmileSmile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2008 at 14:03
Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

20 Italian albums reviewed, and only one below three stars. Concerto Grosso wasn't my thing. But it says a lot about the rest Big%20smile
 
But why wasn't ypur thing? to me is an excellent albumWink




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2008 at 14:07
Originally posted by jimmy_row jimmy_row wrote:

haha...yea you and JIm.  He's not a big fan either.  I'd like 'em better if di Scalzi had more room to let loose with the electric strings.  That's why I might like the Atomic System (and I think he had another band afterwards? Ibis?)
 
Yeah he formed Ibis and you should check Sun Supreme is a very good one to meWink




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2008 at 16:28
Originally posted by zafreth zafreth wrote:

Originally posted by jimmy_row jimmy_row wrote:

haha...yea you and JIm.  He's not a big fan either.  I'd like 'em better if di Scalzi had more room to let loose with the electric strings.  That's why I might like the Atomic System (and I think he had another band afterwards? Ibis?)
 
Yeah he formed Ibis and you should check Sun Supreme is a very good one to meWink
okay I thought so.  I remember hearing that they're a hard rock band in Zeppelin/Tull territory...I don't have any problem with that!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2008 at 16:47
Originally posted by zafreth zafreth wrote:

Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

20 Italian albums reviewed, and only one below three stars. Concerto Grosso wasn't my thing. But it says a lot about the rest Big%20smile
 
But why wasn't ypur thing? to me is an excellent albumWink


I wrote a long review explaining it, so read it for the reasons why Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2008 at 18:18
Juri Camisasca review in the making. Not my best one, but it's hard to write about that album Tongue

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2008 at 19:20
Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

Juri Camisasca review in the making. Not my best one, but it's hard to write about that album Tongue


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2008 at 20:43
Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

Juri Camisasca review in the making. Not my best one, but it's hard to write about that album Tongue


Done!
 
And a nice reading! Clap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2008 at 20:47
I think it's hard to make it justice. A unique album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2008 at 09:54
well done.  right on about it distracting from whatever you're doing...I tried doing a reading assignment or two with Finestra playing, and, well it just didn't go over very well...
 
really a great album though, I love the deranged vocals plus the almost medeival melodies ain't bad themselves.
 
CAMISASCA, JURI — La Finestra Dentro
Review by LinusW
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— First review of this album —

3%20stars La Finestra Dentro really isn’t what you’d call mainstream RPI, but rather a twisted, reclusive and mysterious offshoot from the generally more outgoing and flamboyant Italian scene.

The collection of songs carries elements of folk with strong acid tendencies, while never leaving well-known RPI sounds out of reach. They’re quite a fascinating bunch, all cast in the same eerie, suggestive and hypnotizing mold. Listening to this album always distracts me from whatever I’m doing, only due to the power of its atmosphere. At times it may feel like a soundtrack from a dark and shabby medieval tavern, just as frightening as it is fascinating, and it’s never light enough to break that spell.

Compositions are seemingly simple on the surface, featuring little more than acoustic guitar, stripped percussion and a simple bassline, with emphasis on patiently dragging you in to the aforementioned atmosphere rather than stun you with complexity and contagious melodies. The result is songs with relatively few rhythmical and structural changes, instead biased towards minute tweaks (often via guitars) - which makes you listen even more closely - and reinforcing feeling and imagery through bleak keyboard runs and effects.

When breaking out of the introvert folk ‘rut’, the bigger picture is immediately discernible. As soon as on the second track, a quite warm piano-driven track that contrasts nicely against the vocal and emotional onslaught of the first one, it’s hinted that there is more than first meets the...ear on La Finestra Dentro. Symphonic qualities lurk behind every corner and are most notable towards the final songs Un Fiume Di Luce and Il Regno dell’Eden. However, they’re never really dominant or up-front enough to really distract or take over the music. Absolutely there, but still not. Very tough to explain, but very neatly done. The producers must have done something right (amongst which you find Franco Battiato, who also plays VC3 synthesiser here). You’ll never be hit by a colourful array of keys like from Le Orme or in-your-face virtuosity à la Banco, but rather learn to appreciate the subtle possibilities of these instruments.

Leaving difficult hair-splitting aside, this is first and foremost a vocal album. Juri Camisaca has a very distinct, very ‘Italian’ voice far from the angelic tones of the Jon Andersons of this world. It is often a little rough, and Un Galantuomo’s angst-ridden effort may be successful in delivering emotion, but will need a couple of spins before you accept it for what it is. Other than that, it’s a great pleasure hearing him. Gladly experimenting with tone, style and other vocal possibilities besides actually singing or speaking leaves a lasting impression more thrilling and rejuvenating than I would have thought after first judging on track one.

A solid, emotionally fractured effort, captivating just as much because of what is there as it is because of what’s lacking. I’m torn between three and four stars, but because of La Finestra Dentro’s peculiarity and limited appeal for a casual fan of the sub, I guess the first choice is more appropriate. This is not for everyone, but well worth the time I’ve invested so far.

//LinusW

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2008 at 09:55
One that I haven't heard, but John makes it sound interesting:
 
J.E.T. — Fede, Speranza, Carità
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4%20stars This is another one of those early(1972) hidden gems from Italy.For me the vocals are the best attribute of this band.Strong vocals in the Italian tradition with some very aggressive guitar at times.Organ,bass and drums all play a key roll in what they were trying to accomplish. "Fede,Speranza,Carita" is kind of cool the way it opens with organ,samples, then spoken words.Guitar after 1 1/2 minutes as bass,drums and organ all follow.Vocals before 2 1/2 minutes.I like the instrumental interlude that follows,although the vocals are so good when they return after 5 minutes.Bass,drums and guitar are outstanding! Piano 6 1/2 minutes in with vocals returning after 8 minutes. "Il Prete E Il Peccatore" opens with some loud and raw guitar.Drums and organ join in as the tempo shifts.A calm as vocals arrive after 2 minutes.Nice bass before 3 1/2 minutes as vocals get passionate.Sounds like mellotron,or string synths a minute later.The organ is fantastic,then the tempo picks up with piano.Vocals are back! "Ce Chi Non Ha" is mostly acoustic guitar,fragile vocals and those string synths? before the sound get fuller before 2 1/2 minutes in thankfully. "Sinfonia Per Un Re" is much better as we get some explosive guitar and organ to open.Vocals a minute in.It calms down with some cello 1 1/2 minutes in.Love the organ that follows.Vocals are back before 5 1/2 minutes.Guitar and organ that follow are absolute highlights! Vocals are back after 7 minutes. "Sfogo" is uptempo with piano as vocals join in.Great sound.Nice drumming as well.The organ comes ripping in before 2 minutes.The vocal style on this one is a lot of fun. "Gloria Glioria" is more commercial sounding.It's catchy with some synth strings? This one is all about the vocals. "Guarda Col Tuoi Occhi" features acoustic guitar and vocals to opens as it's fairly mellow.It starts to get more passionate and we get some raw guitar 2 minutes in.Some backing vocals too in this one. I like this one a lot,especially the vocals,guitar and organ.Some variety here as well.

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