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Posted: July 10 2011 at 10:27

Fish or Hogart era? prefer the last one

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Posted: July 11 2011 at 11:13

I'm more familiar with Marillion's Fish era albums, but Hogarth's songs are growing on me.

I prefer the 70's prog bands but I'm discovering many new bands on this site. Btw I love this site! I recently heard Glass Hammer, Flower Kings, Pendragon, Echolyn, Tristan Park, and my favorite this week is -- Porcupine Tree. PT is pure awesomeness with Time Flies, Lazarus, I Drive the Hearse, etc etc etc.

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Posted: July 11 2011 at 12:54

jean-marie wrote:

Fish or Hogart era? prefer the last one

You're obviously the man. I ever get on over to France, I want to party with you.

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Posted: July 11 2011 at 18:39

esky wrote:

jean-marie wrote:

Fish or Hogart era? prefer the last one

You're obviously the man. I ever get on over to France, I want to party with you.good idea ! Cool

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Posted: July 13 2011 at 15:19

As I started to read this thread iTunes randomly skipped to the live version of Dancing With the Moonlit Knight (from the Archive box set).

"Can you tell me where my country lies?"

The way he sings that line sends shivers down my spine, every time. Then listen to the remaster of Trespass, and appreciate just how good a singer Peter was even then. He is untouchable, and if I have a hero in music it's him, unquestionably.

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Posted: July 13 2011 at 15:50

Graeme B wrote:

As I started to read this thread iTunes randomly skipped to the live version of Dancing With the Moonlit Knight (from the Archive box set).

"Can you tell me where my country lies?"

The way he sings that line sends shivers down my spine, every time. Then listen to the remaster of Trespass, and appreciate just how good a singer Peter was even then. He is untouchable, and if I have a hero in music it's him, unquestionably.

You'll fit right in here.

Look up the documentary of the making of Security if you're a big fan. I almost wept as it was liking watch the birth video of old friends.

You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.

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Posted: July 13 2011 at 16:09

Which dvd do you prefer Growing up or Secret world?

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Posted: July 13 2011 at 16:18

Negoba wrote:

Look up the documentary of the making of Security if you're a big fan. I almost wept as it was liking watch the birth video of old friends.

The South Bank Show one? I remember watching it when it first was on TV. Can't find it online but I'd love to see it again, that's a great album, one of the albums of my life.

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Posted: July 13 2011 at 16:23

Graeme B wrote:

Negoba wrote:

Look up the documentary of the making of Security if you're a big fan. I almost wept as it was liking watch the birth video of old friends.

The South Bank Show one? I remember watching it when it first was on TV. Can't find it online but I'd love to see it again, that's a great album, one of the albums of my life.

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74075&KW=peter+gabriel

I actually haven't seen all of Growing Up. I've just caught bits of youtube. I had a VHS copy of Secret World. I always really liked Paula Cole on that.

Edited by Negoba - July 13 2011 at 16:25

You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.

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Posted: July 13 2011 at 16:26

This video is no longer available because the YouTube account associated with this video has been terminated due to multiple third-party notifications of copyright infringement from claimants including:

SME
Paramount Pictures Corporation
Viacom International Inc

Bugger.

Oh and Growing Up. Best. Gig. Ever.

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Posted: July 13 2011 at 16:43

I'm sorry that stinks...why would they be all possessive of a 30 year old documentary?

You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.

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Posted: July 13 2011 at 20:10

DaniMoon wrote:

I'm more familiar with Marillion's Fish era albums, but Hogarth's songs are growing on me.

Ditto. Fish is the man, but Marillion did pretty well without him.

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Posted: July 31 2011 at 08:02

All, OVO, included (why don't you like OVO, by the way?!?! I think it's awesome!!!)

http://www.indabamusic.com/asset/show/1466419
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Posted: July 31 2011 at 08:18

for me i adore his first album.....to go from the first brilliant quirky track through great stuff like solsbury hill to the rock of modern love....then BAM its a barber shop thing going on.....you then get the beauty of humdrum then goes into the last 3 songs which are beautys.

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Posted: August 06 2011 at 23:39

Ady Random wrote:

for me i adore his first album.....to go from the first brilliant quirky track through great stuff like solsbury hill to the rock of modern love....then BAM its a barber shop thing going on.....you then get the beauty of humdrum then goes into the last 3 songs which are beautys.

@Ady Random - I think many fans would agree with you on "Car" because it was Peter's first studio album after leaving Genesis. The songs are fabulous - Gabriel classics Thumbs Up

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Posted: August 07 2011 at 02:34

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Posted: August 07 2011 at 02:46

Dammit, did it again !

First of all, what comes across mostly with PG is a decent human being with a lot of charisma and a willingness to experiment. What's also been good for his career is that he moved with the times, a bit like Bowie in some respects.

He left Genesis at the right time because it was going to get harder for the band to retain originality in its current format. They went on to produce 2 more very symphonic type albums before relenting and becoming a pop band with prog and MOR edges. PG was never going to go in that direction.

Car is his Sargeant Pepper album, i.e. one where he trully wanted to lay down his marker and give free reign to his creativity. But it's a very typical of the late 70's too with pomp rock edges that sat well with some of the US music of the time.

Scratch is actually my favourite - and no one else's - certainly not PG's I'd imagine. However, it's understated approach really hides so many hidden depths. I think there also traces of the New Wave style, particularly in the short sharp nature of the tracks. Of course, it's a duet with Robert Fripp in all but name which may explain why I like it so much.

Melt is just a zeitgeist album every sense and seems to provide a link between the prog era and some of the more thoughful electronic music of the early 80's. Beautifully arranged and full of fierce emotions. Of course it blew me away when I first listened to it, but it's so part of its time that I don't think it's aged so well.

Mask - sorry, but this is a disappointing album, where he plays on the electronic drums far too much to evoke the African influence. He evokes it so much better on So, but the mellow PG just doesn't do it for me.

I did see PG once in concert, in Glasgow in 1987, with Youssou N'Dor as the support. Must have been the coldest June day ever in my home city, but it was a wonderful experience. Like I say, a nice human being, and it really came across.

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Posted: August 07 2011 at 18:37

As for PG's musical legacy, what acts acknowledge a debt to PG-era Genesis and to him as a solo artist?

I know that Phish was VERY influenced by Genesis. Trey Anastasio inducted them into them into the RRHOF, and Phish performed "Watcher of the Skies" that night. (As an aside, the myth is that Phish is basically a Grateful Dead knock-off band. There is a cultural similarity, and although they were influenced by the GD, they were much more influenced by PG-era Genesis and Zappa).

PG is a mystic and a mensch. He seems to be living in two different panes at the same time: the material and the spiritual.

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Posted: August 08 2011 at 17:49

Excellent comments from Ayudhya and Crumbler.

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