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Petrovsk Mizinski 
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Joined: December 24 2007 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 25210 |
 Posted: December 01 2008 at 01:22 |
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Proto Prog, maybe........just maybe (although I still wouldn't agree with it, at least it would make a tiny teeny bit of sense). But as for adding Hendrix to a fully a full fledged prog genre (Space/Psychedelic) will certainly not happen without it becoming problematic in some way or another. |
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Joined: December 24 2007 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 25210 |
Posted: December 01 2008 at 01:18 |
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So, about that Hendrix thing..... |
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mystic fred
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Posted: December 01 2008 at 01:17 |
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not Prog but one of the most influential progressive artists of all time, he deserves a place here at least in Space Rock or Proto-prog - the problem here is he is basically a Blues player, something which PA are reluctant to handle as this would "open too many other floodgates" (Groundhogs, Free et al...) never mind the funk thing (though Jazz Fusion gets away with it as its so popular among the PA cognoscenti... Edited by mystic fred - December 01 2008 at 01:21 |
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Joined: December 24 2007 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 25210 |
Posted: December 01 2008 at 01:11 |
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Let's refrain from "If X band , why not Y? please  "They all had the same system going on all had the same styles,now think about this what if all these bands were added because all have the same qualities Hendrix's music had" Substantiate this please. Doesn't wash with me. Edited by HughesJB4 - December 01 2008 at 01:13 |
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Atavachron
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65856 |
Posted: November 30 2008 at 21:35 |
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luckily it doesn't work that way and we wouldn't have to add any artist based on any other, which is part of the argument against Jimi's inclusion; he either was influential on progrock or he wasn't, and he couldn't really be ProgRelated because he died in 1970 |
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ziggystardust360
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Joined: July 22 2008 Location: Orlando Status: Offline Points: 80 |
Posted: November 30 2008 at 21:30 |
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I don't think Hendrix belongs in the archives.
Because if we added Hendrix we'd have to add bands like Funkadelic,Sly Stone,Grateful Dead. They all had the same system going on all had the same styles,now think about this what if all these bands were added because all have the same qualities Hendrix's music had. Now doesn't that just sound ridiculous. |
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''I always had the repulsive need to be something other than human''-David Bowie
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
Posted: November 30 2008 at 21:15 |
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Please, put is as big as your initial post.
 That would had been enough T to avoid all this disgusting problems, quote what I say, because I'm the kind odf person that always says my truth loud and clear.
Please T, don't pretend to be that naive.
Please T, it's yellow, has feathers, says quack, it's a duck.
Exactly what I'm saying MAKING A FINAL DECISION ABOUT A BAND IS FUTILE, BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL INSIST EVEN IN M@X , THE ADM AND MOST OF THE PEOPLE (METALLICA LOST OF THE POLLS) DISAGREE.
Iván
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Atavachron
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Posted: November 30 2008 at 20:57 |
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it is an amazing place, Noah, thanks for reminding us of that.. many here have strong feelings due to years of listening behind them and those feelings come out with passion sometimes ..for those that are the caretakers here, it matters because decisions have to be made, and artists cannot then be removed so it's important to be sure and to have all arguments on the table hope you enjoy your time here |
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Logan
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Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38833 |
Posted: November 30 2008 at 20:55 |
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Or for Proto Prog for this:  |
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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anoah
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Joined: November 25 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 69 |
Posted: November 30 2008 at 20:51 |
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Hello everyone,
I'm fairly new here--young too, so I doubt this post will really be noticed, BUT... I know various artists (Metallica, Radiohead, etc.) have stirred up a bit of controversy here, and I appreciate all the people who are making valid points on both sides, but why does this need to turn into attacks, things that have nothing to do with music at all. We do not need to accuse people of being liars or being "new" and inexperienced. This is a music community, and we are supposed to come together to share our musical tastes, to discuss and disagree on music styles and techniques, to recommend music that is important to us. I love Jimi Hendrix! He's an amazing guitarist and influenced countless musicians. But it doesn't matter to me whether he gets into the archives or not. Him being a member of the archives doesn't increase his greatness. He was never renowned as the greatest prog guitarist of the last century. He's just an amazing musician. His spot in the archives is an interesting topic, and as I said, it's nice that people are making arguments for why he should and shouldn't be a member of the archives, but frankly, does it even matter? Should we really let another musician's spot in the archives get between fellow prog-lovers? We are a special community. There are very few places where music listeners who enjoy a very lovely and unique style of music can come together to share their love of the music. This is an amazing place. -Noah
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crimson87
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Joined: January 03 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 1818 |
Posted: November 30 2008 at 20:45 |
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Man , the only way to solve this issue about Hendrix is to ask the greats in prog like Fripp , Howe , Hackett or Gilmour. If they say how Hendrix influenced them then is more than clear that he is prog. Vote The Rolling Stones for Prog Related!!!! |
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
Posted: November 30 2008 at 20:09 |
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^^^ Now I understand why you used so big font.
Iván Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - November 30 2008 at 20:11 |
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The T
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: November 30 2008 at 20:06 |
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No it won't.... But some people will start believing it.. The lost art of propaganda... Edited by The T - November 30 2008 at 20:07 |
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: November 30 2008 at 20:05 |
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No T, nobody wins or loose an argument shouting and using large fonts with non truth phrases,.
You make a point with arguments, quotes and facts.
I can say that Eminem is a prog artist in 100 size font. and won't be truth.
Iván Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - November 30 2008 at 20:08 |
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The T
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Posted: November 30 2008 at 20:03 |
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The T
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: November 30 2008 at 19:58 |
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Guess this size is better if we want to win any arguments around here...
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
Posted: November 30 2008 at 19:58 |
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Yes, ridiculous, I agree
Iván
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Peter
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Posted: November 30 2008 at 19:56 |
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THIS IS AN EVEN BIGGER FONT!!!
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
Posted: November 30 2008 at 19:55 |
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T...can you tell me when I said this?????? Please do it...If you can.
YOU ARE PLACING WORDS IN MY MOUTH and trying to fix your mistake with a lot of fforced arguments.
No matter how many explanations you give, no matter how many times you say Mike made that thread to boost his site, you and all the fotrum know that Mike started the thread to suport Metallica.
But Metallica is here, nobody can do a thing, even if we start 100 threads askingg to remove Metallica, things won't change, so stop all this, I said something that i supported with quotes and facts, you made a scandal ansd placed words in my mouth I never said.
Enough about Metallica.
Iván Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - November 30 2008 at 19:57 |
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The T
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: November 30 2008 at 19:45 |
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If this is what you think implies that you lied, you're wrong Ivan. I'm just interpreting your words and continous references about the Metallica addition as a way of saying that "we added metallica because we just wanted to". It was an addition that fulfilled all requirements and even more and I'm tired of seeing it mentioned as an example of the danger of insisting.
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But I had to make the point. 