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Originally posted by alan_pfeifer alan_pfeifer wrote:


I know not what all of your contexts for a band being prog, but in my book, SOAD are a bit more of the "fringe" acts who can help to push listeners into music that takes a little bit more to get something than throwing on a CD and doing your homework.



I agree with this, but I doubt a lot of SoaD fans will appreciate Symphonic Prog or Kraut rock, they'll (sadly enough) be more likely to turn to bands like Limp Bizkit et.al. in my opinion.

Semi-prog I guess, but not a band I feel belongs here.

Oh, and the lead singer is my alltime least favourite. There's something about his voice that just makes my skin crawl.

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Originally posted by ColonelClaypool ColonelClaypool wrote:

Oh, and the lead singer is my alltime least favourite. There's something about his voice that just makes my skin crawl.


Compare him to Les Claypool and then tell me if he's bad or not..
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1 word- meh.

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Yes.  I think they most definitely should be in the archives.  I don't think we should restrict the archives to bands that have a specifically 'proggy' sound.  Radiohead is in the archives.  If anything, I think we should put SOAD in the experimental section, because that section is described as "any music that challenges the commonly accepted notions of what music is," and SOAD has definitely done that.
How awesome. A place where I can talk about progressive rock and not hear "IS THIS ONE OF YOUR 50 HOUR LONG SONGS?!?!" I salute you. :D
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Originally posted by Define Insanity Define Insanity wrote:

I don't think we should restrict the archives to bands that have a specifically 'proggy' sound.  

  1. I agree to add all bands with a 100% Progressive sound
  2. I agree to accept bands that have mainly a Progressive sound
  3. I may admit some bands with a proggy sound as Prog related (If such a thing exists).
  4. I don't like but what can I do if most members want to add remotely Proggy bands?

But to admit bands that don't even have a proggy (understood as remotely progressive) sound isn't too much?

Well, lets add all AOR, Alternative, Indie, New Age, New Wave and any Metal band that has keyboards.

But better think of another name for this place, because it will be anything but Prog Archives.

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^^^^^^^

Well said,Ivan.And I totally agree with that.


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SYSTEM OF A DOWN IS NOT PROG, NEVER WAS PROG, AND NEVER WILL BE PROG!!!!!!!!! 

Does this really require discussing? System of a Down isn't at all close to Prog.
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Possibly, I really like some of their newer stuff, far more than their original stuff.

I have heard on the grapevine that the forthcoming album "Hypnotize" might be their last album.  I think they want to finish on a high and not make a bad album, I don't blame them.
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Lol, I actually catched one of their videos midway through on MTV yesterday (yeah, I surf to that channel every now and then ) and having never heard anything from the band, nor knowing what they look like, I thought to myself that it must be that band System Of A Down so many keep talking about even on Progarchives. Why? Well, because while definitely not being out-and-out prog or anything like that, they surely did stand out amongst the things one is usually exposed to on MTV...!

There is also a big article on them in the fresh issue of Finnish music mag 'Soundi' which has awakened my curiosity. I might look into them a little bit more in depth at some point.

 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2005 at 19:18
Originally posted by ivan_2068 ivan_2068 wrote:

Originally posted by Define Insanity Define Insanity wrote:

I don't think we should restrict the archives to bands that have a specifically 'proggy' sound.  

  1. I agree to add all bands with a 100% Progressive sound
  2. I agree to accept bands that have mainly a Progressive sound
  3. I may admit some bands with a proggy sound as Prog related (If such a thing exists).
  4. I don't like but what can I do if most members want to add remotely Proggy bands?

But to admit bands that don't even have a proggy (understood as remotely progressive) sound isn't too much?

Well, lets add all AOR, Alternative, Indie, New Age, New Wave and any Metal band that has keyboards.

But better think of another name for this place, because it will be anything but Prog Archives.

Iván

 

NICE!!!... that is so damn right... Systed of a down.. to add them here would be complete non-sense, I dont see how they meet the sounds of Yes, Genesis, Camel. etc... 

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They use some prog elements, but  NO they don't deserve to be named as prog... 
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I don´t think they are prog yet, But in Mesmerize there are a couple of songs that were quite a surprise for me, like Question, Radio/Video, and others. I hope to hear Hypnotize in a couple of days, and then we will see if they are really approaching to prog.

I that if their are succesful with their last two albums, they will continue making albums but even closer to prog from now on.
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Originally posted by stebo32 stebo32 wrote:

I dont see how they meet the sounds of Yes, Genesis, Camel. etc...


We have to start deleting a lot of bands if this is the criteria...
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Originally posted by Logos Logos wrote:

Originally posted by stebo32 stebo32 wrote:

I dont see how they meet the sounds of Yes, Genesis, Camel. etc...


We have to start deleting a lot of bands if this is the criteria...

So true!

Anyway, to put the actual music aside for a moment, Shavarsh Odadjian's beard alone ought to be enough to let the band in, I mean seriously, have you ever seen proggier face hair than his überlong goatee??  

 
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