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Retroventuremod 
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 22:38 |
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although not overly a SOAD fan ( i do really like aerials)
I am sort of surprised at the lack of them being on this site, coz they
are somewhat proggish, they have a lot of changes in the middle of
songs from quiet to loud, to fast to slow etc.
what do you think?
PS one of my friends is really into them and i keep trying to tell him they are somewhat prog (he hates prog)
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I asked Bobby Dylan
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kingofbizzare
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 22:42 |
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I just got back from camp (we were on houseboats for the weekend) and
our boat mostly had metalheads on it, so we listened to the newest SOAD
album almost 24 hours a day. We even adopted their song Radio/Video as
our theme song because we played that one in particular so often. Some
of their stuff is pretty straighforeward, but a lot of it does seem
very prog to me.
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seabre
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 22:43 |
Heh, no.
 Retroventuremod wrote:
they have a lot of changes in the middle of songs from quiet to loud, to fast to slow etc. |
That doesn't mean anything.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 22:44 |
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NONONONONONO
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 22:44 |
Use it as an argument to convince your friend, but IMO it's not even remotely prog related.
Iván
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MANTICORE
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 22:45 |
what?????  no way, they really sucks
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 The Beatles
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 22:46 |
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IMO, not prog, but I'm really not the best person to ask (........DT, Prog?)
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Retroventuremod
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 22:46 |
MANTICORE wrote:
what????? no way, they really sucks |
LOL there are plenty of bad truly prog bands
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I asked Timothy Leary
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They call me the seeker
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MANTICORE
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 22:48 |
NetsNJFan wrote:
IMO, not prog, but I'm really not the best person to ask (........DT, Prog?) |
 not prog
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The Beatles
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Retroventuremod
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 22:50 |
seabre wrote:
Heh, no.
Retroventuremod wrote:
they have a lot of changes in the middle of
songs from quiet to loud, to fast to slow etc. |
That doesn't mean anything. |
well ok, they have a bit more than that to, but what about bands like
tool? i wouldnt consider them all that prog, but they are on the list
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I asked Bobby Dylan
I asked the Beatles
I asked Timothy Leary
But he couldn't help me either
They call me the seeker
THE WHO!
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MANTICORE
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 22:54 |
Retroventuremod wrote:
seabre wrote:
Heh, no.
Retroventuremod wrote:
they have a lot of changes in the middle of songs from quiet to loud, to fast to slow etc. |
That doesn't mean anything.
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well ok, they have a bit more than that to, but what about bands like tool? i wouldnt consider them all that prog, but they are on the list
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thats true but also there are others mmm like nigthwish IMO
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The Beatles
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cold103
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 23:01 |
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No. Aren't they that band that has a song with the lyric "my dick is
bigger than yours", or something? No offense but I think they pretty
much suck from what I've heard- Just another mainstream band..
Also- that song Sugar was like 2 minutes right? Wow, their songs are almost as lengthy as Green Day's!
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bamba
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 23:03 |
I Think they are not prog at all
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little_neutrino
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 23:05 |
I think there's definitely some progressive-ness to them. Just not enough to be sucked into the prog genre.
There was a hidden track off of "Toxicity" at the very end which sounded really world-music-ish; going with the whole east-meets-west type deal. But aside from that, finding a proggy track in their portfolio is a bit like the diamond-in-the-rough.
Not even diamond. It's just crappy cubic zirconia.
Edited by little_neutrino
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seabre
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 23:06 |
Retroventuremod wrote:
seabre wrote:
Heh, no.
Retroventuremod wrote:
they have a lot of changes in the middle of songs from quiet to loud, to fast to slow etc. |
That doesn't mean anything.
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well ok, they have a bit more than that to, but what about bands like tool? i wouldnt consider them all that prog, but they are on the list
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Tool.
Odd time signatures, sheets of sound, complex rhythms, explorative percussion/set playing
System of a Down.
Unimaginative sheets of sonic sh*t.
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Retroventuremod
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 23:06 |
cold103 wrote:
No. Aren't they that band that has a song with the lyric "my dick is
bigger than yours", or something? No offense but I think they pretty
much suck from what I've heard- Just another mainstream band..
Also- that song Sugar was like 2 minutes right? Wow, their songs are almost as lengthy as Green Day's!
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i dont know about the dick lyric, or sugar song - again i dont know to
much about them, other than what my friend has made me listen to etc etc
however - many prog songs are less than 5 minutes you know - clap, a venture are 2 that quickly come to mind.
and on green day- that could be an interesting discussion - is there such a thing as "punk prog"?
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I asked Bobby Dylan
I asked the Beatles
I asked Timothy Leary
But he couldn't help me either
They call me the seeker
THE WHO!
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bamba
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 23:14 |
I LIKE ARMENIA but they still not prog. KEEP searching friend
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 23:18 |
Retroventuremod wrote:
cold103 wrote:
No. Aren't they that band that has a song with the lyric "my dick is bigger than yours", or something? No offense but I think they pretty much suck from what I've heard- Just another mainstream band..
Also- that song Sugar was like 2 minutes right? Wow, their songs are almost as lengthy as Green Day's!
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i dont know about the dick lyric, or sugar song - again i dont know to much about them, other than what my friend has made me listen to etc etc
however - many prog songs are less than 5 minutes you know - clap, a venture are 2 that quickly come to mind.
and on green day- that could be an interesting discussion - is there such a thing as "punk prog"?
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Green Day is NOT PROG!!!!!
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seabre
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 23:23 |
If you're going to go into a "punk prog" area. The Mars Volta is the closest thing to that..
Green Day != prog
Edited by seabre
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alan_pfeifer
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 23:25 |
I see alot more of what many of you consider "prog" in them. Just because they write 3 minute songs doesn't ,mean they suck. They tend to cram alot into the songs.
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