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    Posted: May 17 2007 at 22:11
Well, as a Tool fan among many Tool fans I'd expect many to enjoy this band (and despise them). I'm very interested in people's personal opinions on them in compassison and contrast to Tool. I like a lot of Maynard's vocal performances in A Perfect Circle as much as a lot of his Tool work.

Anyways what'd ya think??
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Mer de Noms was a great album, 4.5/5 stars for me.

Thirteenth Step was good but not as good as the first.

Emotive was pretty terrible IMO.

Overall, a very successful side project, many bands in music that are referred to as "side projects" turn out to be only ok or pretty bad, but this is one of the better ones.
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Billy Howerdel is awesome as is Maynard and Josh Freese.  The first album was great.  Then they got suck come 13 Steps or whatever it was called and the following albums.
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Originally posted by enteredwinter enteredwinter wrote:

Mer de Noms was a great album, 4.5/5 stars for me.Thirteenth Step was good but not as good as the first.Emotive was pretty terrible IMO.


Just the opposite from me - 13th Step is even better than Mer de Noms (which is still very, very good)

Haven't heard the whole of 'Emotive', only 'Imagine', and found it bad.
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Points: 12805 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2007 at 07:51
Originally posted by Visitor13 Visitor13 wrote:

Originally posted by enteredwinter enteredwinter wrote:

Mer de Noms was a great album, 4.5/5 stars for me.Thirteenth Step was good but not as good as the first.Emotive was pretty terrible IMO.


Just the opposite from me - 13th Step is even better than Mer de Noms (which is still very, very good)

Haven't heard the whole of 'Emotive', only 'Imagine', and found it bad.
 
Played the Joni Mitchell cover  from Emotive last night on the radio show - really got the flavour of Anglo Scot's folk music, finger in the ear , the lot. And I would much hear a band attempt to take other's music, and do something new with it, rather than make poor copies.
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^Yes Dick, I actually really liked that track. Spot on homage to English folk...the best sort of cover version, one that does something radical.
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Originally posted by enteredwinter enteredwinter wrote:

Mer de Noms was a great album, 4.5/5 stars for me.

Thirteenth Step was good but not as good as the first.

Emotive was pretty terrible IMO.

Overall, a very successful side project, many bands in music that are referred to as "side projects" turn out to be only ok or pretty bad, but this is one of the better ones.

 
I say this in every APC thread,but the misconception that this is MJK's band irks me to no end.
 
APC is former Tool guitar tech Billy Howerdel's band.He didn't even consider Maynard as a vocalist,but was audtioning female vocalists when Maynard heard some of his tunes and asked if he could sing with them.
 
I guess APC could be seen as a side project of MJK,but it isn't his band.


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I think Mer de Noms is a great disc, not too thrilled with Thirteenth Step, and I haven't checked out anything by them since.
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I actually like 13th Step better than Mer De Noms. I like the feel and atmosphere of the album better. Emotive is a nice album too. I like the covers.

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What a coincidence - I'm listening to A PERFECT CIRCLE all the time this week...now "The Package" is playing...

I just bought their "E-motion" DVD recently (good videos, from funny/provoking ones to socials like "Count bodies..." and Lennon's "Imagine") and it has revived my love to that band. "13th step" is a killer, I use to love only "Weak and Powerless" and "The Outsider" there, but such pieces as "The Noose", "Blue" and "The Package" have immensly grown on me...A 4-star album (in Prog terms).

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Points: 7456 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2007 at 12:47
Dick has played A Perfect Circle on his radio show (recommended listening) this week and last week,and I have been impressed.I must admit,I had negative a preconception about them being labelled 'metal' in record shops.A mullti-faceted band I must say.

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A Perfect Circle is my favorite band (in addition to Porcupine Tree).  I love their music, there's a lot of diversity in it and they've made some beautiful songs, like "Orestes" and "The Noose".  They were the band that got me into music, so they mean a lot to me.

I think their first two albums Mer De Noms and Thirteenth Step are masterpieces, and they are still two of my favorite albums.  eMOTIVe is a good album, but it could have been better, and I certainly would have preferred an album of original music (although 13th step does have one cover song - "The Nurse Who Loved Me" by Failure). 

It's sad that they're probably never going to make a new album. Cry But Wikipedia says that Billy Howerdel is supposed to be coming out with a solo album at some point, I think with some former APC members.  But that news is almost two years old....


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Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

 
I say this in every APC thread,but the misconception that this is MJK's band irks me to no end.
 
APC is former Tool guitar tech Billy Howerdel's band.He didn't even consider Maynard as a vocalist,but was audtioning female vocalists when Maynard heard some of his tunes and asked if he could sing with them.
 
I guess APC could be seen as a side project of MJK,but it isn't his band.


I stand corrected. I see your point.

However, I wasn't suggesting it was MJK's band. I'm aware of the history and the fact that it really was Howerdel's band. The fact that it only survived for 3 albums, plus the presence of MJK, not to mention the fact that it ended in the public's eye (to my knowledge) only when Keenan said in an interview that it was over, all give it a strong flavor of "side-project".

Nevertheless, I agree, that's probably not an appropriate term in this case.
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Points: 911 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2007 at 16:22
APC is okay, nowhere near as good as tool (as expected)



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Points: 27802 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2007 at 16:27
Originally posted by enteredwinter enteredwinter wrote:

Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

 
I say this in every APC thread,but the misconception that this is MJK's band irks me to no end.
 
APC is former Tool guitar tech Billy Howerdel's band.He didn't even consider Maynard as a vocalist,but was audtioning female vocalists when Maynard heard some of his tunes and asked if he could sing with them.
 
I guess APC could be seen as a side project of MJK,but it isn't his band.


I stand corrected. I see your point.

However, I wasn't suggesting it was MJK's band. I'm aware of the history and the fact that it really was Howerdel's band. The fact that it only survived for 3 albums, plus the presence of MJK, not to mention the fact that it ended in the public's eye (to my knowledge) only when Keenan said in an interview that it was over, all give it a strong flavor of "side-project".

Nevertheless, I agree, that's probably not an appropriate term in this case.

 
I misinterpreted your post,sorry about that EW.Embarrassed


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Originally posted by enteredwinter enteredwinter wrote:

Emotive was pretty terrible IMO.


We......we don't talk about "eMOTIVe". Ugh, I feel dirty just typing it.
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Points: 9008 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2007 at 12:12
It isn't THAT bad... Ouch

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I've been meaning to check them out for a while, but other things have gotten in the way. I've heard one song (don't remember the title) which I really liked.
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Originally posted by Philéas Philéas wrote:

I've been meaning to check them out for a while, but other things have gotten in the way. I've heard one song (don't remember the title) which I really liked.


Not 3Libra's is it? Oh how I love that song - and that album "Mer de Noms". Not too sure about the other ones though, haven't bought them due to some really awful reviews on this site. Might pick them up if I find them cheap online or something...

Anyway, I can't see how you can compare tOOl to APC. They are two very different bands which are only connected in a few small ways.
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I have 13 steps and indeed is an very good rock album. I haven't listen to the other but if isn't as good as this album I guess I won't bother, however You can't compare this band with the mighty TOOL!!!!
even Maynard isn't as good as he is with TOOL.
For what I heard on this album they have a more of a Smashing Punking feel than of TOOL.


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