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friso 
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 Topic: Where's the Space Rock?
Posted: August 11 2010 at 05:42 |
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Ok, this answer to this question may seem a bit obvious since PA has a sub-genre called psychedelic/space rock. But when I was thinking about my favorite space-rock records I can't help concluding a lot of them weren't in from the psychedelic/space rock page.
To name a few.
Kahn - Space Shanty (Canterbury)
Gong - Radio Gnome Invisible trilogy (Canterbury)
Grobschnitt - Solar Music Live (Symphonic prog)
Can - Future Days (Krautrock)
Guru Guru - UFO (Krautrock)
Devin Townsend - Ziltoid the Omniscient (Tech metal)
Are there more of these classic space rock records lost in other genres? Where's the Space Rock? What seventies Space records can you recommend?
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 05:46 |
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In Search Of Space - Hawkwind
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 05:51 |
 this needs an excursion about transitions between music genres ... there are even important space rock albums which are not listed here, f.e. Ufo 2: Flying-One Hour Space Rock
Edited by Rivertree - August 11 2010 at 05:53
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BaldFriede
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 05:53 |
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Well, a lot of early Krautrock was space rock - Amon Düül 2 Ash Ra Tempel, Annexus Quam, Dzyan, Embryo ("Rocksession" or "Sreig Aus" are space jazz-rock), Jane, Wallenstein, Popol Vuh, even Eloy in a way. The problem is that one label often does not fit a band; I have suggested to give multiple labels to bands and single labels to their albums.
Edited by BaldFriede - August 11 2010 at 06:04
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 05:57 |
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I'd recommend the free EP (40 minutes of music, actually) and the free concert you can download from Hidria Spacefolk's website, for a taste of one of the best modern space rock bands. Another modern band I'd recommend is Astra, whose sound is Space Rock but with reminiscences of King Crimson and Yes.
You are right, there are "space rock" strong influences in many other bands from other genres, other examples could be (sticking to modern prog) Riverside, Kayo Dot, Combat Astronomy, etc.
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 05:59 |
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How is Ziltoid the Omniscient space rock? It's not psychadelic at all... just cause' it's set in space, that surely doesn't make it space rock? That would be like saying every single rock band from germany are krautrock, or that every piece of music with a violin in it is classical.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 06:02 |
 Rivertree wrote:
this needs an excursion about transitions between music genres ...
there are even important space rock albums which are not listed here, f.e.
Ufo 2: Flying-One Hour Space Rock
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Great album; I personally think UFO should be in prog-related at least for their first two albums.
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friso
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 06:11 |
Nathaniel607 wrote:
How is Ziltoid the Omniscient space rock? It's not psychadelic at all... just cause' it's set in space, that surely doesn't make it space rock? That would be like saying every single rock band from germany are krautrock, or that every piece of music with a violin in it is classical.
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There are a lot of space-metal tracks and moments on that album, Nebula 9 being one of them.
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friso
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 06:12 |
BaldFriede wrote:
Well, a lot of early Krautrock was space rock - Amon Düül 2 Ash Ra Tempel, Annexus Quam, Dzyan, Embryo ("Rocksession" or "Sreig Aus" are space jazz-rock), Jane, Wallenstein, Popol Vuh, even Eloy in a way. The problem is that one label often does not fit a band; I have suggested to give multiple labels to bands and single labels to their albums.
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I also think this is a very interesting idea. The problem is it will result in endless debates. Take for instance: which Genesis albums are crossover, or even pop?).
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 06:15 |
what about David Bowie - Space Oddity is not that space rock
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 06:17 |
aginor wrote:
what about David Bowie - Space Oddity is not that space rock |
To me it isn't.
The lyrics are about space for sure.
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kosmischekurier
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 07:14 |
I would say there are varying degrees of Space Rock. After all, space is infinite.
1. Deep Space - the sort of stuff that has lots of synth, screaming through the void or meditating on its own emptiness (early 70's Hawkwind)
2. Cosmic - i.e. Kosmische musik...jamming like they're on a rocket to deep space.
3. True space rock - has a bit more substance, a bit more weighty (definitely in the realms of Farflung, DarXtar)
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 07:21 |
Definitely Astra is Space Rock
So are Hawkwinds early albums for sure, esp Space Ritual and IN SEarch of Space and even Warrior on The Edge of Time.
I think the genre of Space Rock is sorely missing a lot of very important albums but iuts so difficult to genre-ise all these dang bands - there are more coming in every day! IMHO as long as they at least get on here at the archives I would be satisfied, and we can debate which genre they belong to later.
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 07:23 |
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i think Ladytron is spacerock ish
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 07:27 |
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Some mid-90's "drone" albums were definitely space rock...
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 07:40 |
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Or a huge chunk of Post Rock.
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 07:42 |
I like old ones like Hawkwind,Gong,UFO,Pop Masina & Igra Staklenih Perli from exYugoslavia,but also a very good new group called Stone Oak Cosmonaut ...
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 08:22 |
Lancaster/Lumley Marscape 
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 08:25 |
...after rock came metal......
Edited by Snow Dog - August 11 2010 at 08:26
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 19:47 |
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The Canterbury and Krautrock scenes both featured a lot of music that, had it not fit been from the right times and places, would definitely be called space-rock. However, both those subgenres have many other elements to them, and not all offerings in those genres can logically be called space rock. Does that help at all? Probably not :)
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