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    Posted: December 07 2005 at 10:14

A lot of times I read things about SOAD in this site, there's people that says they are prog (กกก). I listened to their first album (System of a down) and the second (Toxicity); and I don't see many difference between them and some nu-metalcrap bands.

The question is: what have SOAD that make them different? and: Which album reflects his "progish" style?

(Please, it's not necessary to answer that people who thinks their first two albums have something prog, it's obvious that there's nothing (or almost nothing) prog in them).
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SoaD are not prog. They use complex signatures and ethnic elements, but that does not make it any more (or less) prog.
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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 10:24
Youll hate me for this but you should know by now, surely, that this is the wrong section for this thraed!
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I see them as a non-prog band trying to be pathetic PROG wannabies band.

Sorry SOAD are not my cup of tea.
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Points: 20618 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 10:28
Originally posted by PROGMAN PROGMAN wrote:

I see them as a non-prog band trying to be pathetic PROG wannabies band.

Sorry SOAD are not my cup of tea.

That's not fair - I'm sure that they have no ambitions whatoever to be recognized as a prog band. It's just some of their fans who are desperately trying to see them that way.
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Points: 94 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 10:34

I quite like some of their stuff (and own 2 albums) but there is absolutely nothing I've heard by them which can be classed as "progressive" in the traditional sense of the word.

Like Metallica, they are dark and mysterious in places but definitely not progressive.
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Well, in the case of Metallica I think they are prog-related or proto-progmetal (only in the 80's, of course).
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Of course there is a big difference between Metallica and SoaD.
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Points: 27802 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 10:51
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

SoaD are not prog. They use complex signatures and ethnic elements, but that does not make it any more (or less) prog.



I AGREE


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Points: 1823 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 10:53
My 18 year-old skateboarding nephew likes them together with Sum41 and Marilyn Manson. I think he'd cringe if he heard they were prog.


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I own 3 of their disks, can't say I like them all but that's another issue. I have never listened to them and thought...ya know what that's a prog metal group right there.

Toxicity, Mesmerize & Hypnotize are the 3 I own. I like Mesmerize, Toxicity is ok but I havent cared much for Hypnotize so far.

Metal  sure. Prog uh no, not to me.
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Points: 9226 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 12:12
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

SoaD are not prog. They use complex signatures and ethnic elements, but that does not make it any more (or less) prog.



I AGREE

you also get my vote 

I think that they are the best of this 'nu' metal, as they use their imagination.

they don't just try to play a tune and finish. I would say INTELLIGENT NU METAL.

hmm.. I like that. Definitely not prog although they have some technical elements.

Serj Tankian has a great voice.

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Best band in the world atm.

Not a band for the Archives tho.

And surely not nu-metal. What an idiotic comment.
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Points: 1455 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 12:36
SoaD = anything but prog...what a suggestion...
I'm a reasonable man, get off my case
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Points: 3083 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 13:52

System of a Down is full of creativity. The Mezmerize/Hypnotize project is great. I don't like the earlier material so much, it's not as enjoyable, nor does it reach the heights of this year's work. I can't help but love what they're doing now.

They may not be prog, but they are surely unique.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 16:16

NOOO NOT THEM AGAIN!!!!

disgusting, if theyre ever on this site, ill rip the flesh off my bones

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Points: 415 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 18:06
Originally posted by Logos Logos wrote:

Best band in the world atm.




lmao


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Points: 4079 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 20:26
I'd consider them non-synth neo-prog.  They could almost fit into the Prog Metal category as well.  I think these guys are bizarre, but very creative. 

I know of a local band that was heavily influenced by them and this local band recently switched to jazz fusion but cite SOAD as a major influencer in their original style.  And these are high schoolers.  Kudos for them not playing Emo.
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Points: 20618 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2005 at 03:04

Originally posted by StyLaZyn StyLaZyn wrote:

I'd consider them non-synth neo-prog.  They could almost fit into the Prog Metal category as well.  I think these guys are bizarre, but very creative. 

I know of a local band that was heavily influenced by them and this local band recently switched to jazz fusion but cite SOAD as a major influencer in their original style.  And these are high schoolers.  Kudos for them not playing Emo.

Neo-Prog?  Name just ONE Neo-Prog band that is even remotely similar to SoaD ... I bet you won't find any.



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Points: 421 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2005 at 18:24
Yea I believe Neo-Prog is just new bands using the sound of "old" prog greats like Yes, Genesis and such. This is not to discredit them, I enjoy plenty of Neo like IQ and Galleon, but instead I am trying to redirect that classification for System of a Down. :)
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