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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2006 at 22:39
Originally posted by ken4musiq ken4musiq wrote:

King Crimson - Larks Tongues in Aspic (This one is the only one that I'd consider flawless, and it's just amazing!! Lizard follows closely behind - 4 and a half. I know Red and In the Court.. will come up a lot, but I feel they have big gaps in quality at some stage)

 

I loved King Crimson and have all the early albums of the boys and Fripp, and the solo stuff. I loved that Bruford and Holdsworth stuff. Fripp and Gabriel made a good pair; they should have had a band together . . hmm maybe not.

I hate to say this but I think you're right, so few are really flawless, if any. I like two you mentioned The Court and Lark's Tongues best; but as with most of the music I like, I play devil's advocate to actually how good it really is objectively.

Pink Floyd: like the Moody Blues, I often put on the ambient stuff late at night before I go to bed.  Dark Side is the defining epic of the 1970s.  Someone should make a movie about it like they did with that Kiss movie for the Destroyer tour or Dazed and Confused, which I guess was not about Zep. I never got to see them live because I was too young to go into Manhattan to see them in '77.  I could not get tickets when they came to the Nassau Coliseum to do The Wall.  Years later my uncle, who was one of the the arresting officers in the Son of Sam case, said to me, " Oh, you like, Pink Floyd, I was the head of security when they came to the Nassau Coliseum."  Gee, thanks.

ELP Trilogy, Brain Salad, of course. I would add Tarkus simply because it is a piece that grew and changed throughout the trios tenure and one of the prog essentials. The live version is better. Bitch's Cystal also a great piece, the jazz waltz.

Genesis.  I love Foxtrot, The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, oh, and also Trick of the Tale, don't shoot me, there must be some Misunderstanding. but for the life of me cannot see the why Selling England is number two or Nursery Crime is a top ten prog essential.   

Yes, as I just said elsewhere. Not to be underrated because of the popularity they acheived. They were great.  I've seen them six times, never with the same line up. I'm sure most Yes fasn think, six times big dea.  Those three classic albums defined the genre.

 

Jethro Tull, bigger than many but always forgotten.  You'll see whose remembered in one hundred years.

 

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2006 at 23:08
^Why do you need to repeat yourself???
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2006 at 23:18
Agree with most of the albums listed as masterpieces so far, but, are ELP really considered one of the "Big 5"?

No one has challenged that premise thus far on the thread... (I'd put RUSH, JETHRO TULL and probably even CAMEL and VdGG "ahead" of ELP in the "Big 5 or 6" but I digress.... I'm sure Karnie would disagree)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2006 at 02:12

Originally posted by meurglysIII meurglysIII wrote:

^Why do you need to repeat yourself???

 

There is something bizarre. Must be my computer. Notice I do not get a box when I quote others either. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2006 at 02:13

but this time I did  ???

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2006 at 02:17

Genesis - Foxtrot, SEbtP

Yes - Fragile

Rush - Permanent Waves, Hemispheres

Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick, Aqualung, Minstrel In The Gallery

Pink Floyd - The Wall

Those are the "Big 5" right .  I hate the "Big" terms by the way, as in another thread ELP isn't really a "big" IMO and I'm not really into King Crimson, so they're not one of MY "bigs" and Personally I would rate either VdGG or Gentle Giant definite "Bigs" in prog. So its really a big 9:
Genesis,Yes,Rush,J-Tull,Gentle Giant,VdGG,Pink Floyd, King Crimson, and ELP. But I'm probably leaving out some "bigs"



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2006 at 02:26
Yes

  • Close To The Edge
  • Fragile
  • Relayer
King Crimson

  • Larks' Tongues In Aspic
  • Red
  • THRaKaTTaK
  • The ProjeKcts
Pink Floyd

  • Wish You Were Here
  • Dark Side Of The Moon
  • Animals
Genesis

  • Trespass
  • Foxtrot
  • Selling England By The Pound
ELP

  • Pictures At An Exhibition
  • Brain Salad Surgery
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2006 at 02:33

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

masterpieces from the Big 6 (can't have Genesis without Tull...  in my book)   hmm...

Yes:

The Yes Album
CttE
Yessongs
TFTO
Relayer
GFTO

(that was a run of brilliance not matched in prog IMO)


Agreed Mickey, those six albums are all masterpieces. The reason why YES are considered to be the ultimate prog band! No other band had the same consistency as YES, no one even came close!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2006 at 02:38

YES

  1. CTTE
  2. THE YES ALBUM
  3. FRAGILE
  4. TFTO
  5. RELAYER

GENESIS

  1. FOXTROT
  2. WIND AND WUTHERING
  3. TRICK OF THE TALE

ELP

  1. TARKUS
  2. TRILOGY
  3. BRAIN SALAD SURGERY
  4. WORKS VOL 1
  5. E,L AND POWELL

PINK FLOYD

  1. DSOTM
  2. ANIMALS
  3. WISH YOU WERE HERE
  4. THE WALL

KING CRIMSON

  1. RED

only KC album I like!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2006 at 02:39
Originally posted by Progger Progger wrote:



E,L AND POWELL



Now this is a first!!
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2006 at 03:20
The "Big Five" are not my big five. My big five are Gong, Hawkwind, Magma, Van der Graaf Generator and Amon Düül 2. Their masterpieces are:
Gong - You
Hawkwind - Warrior at the Edge of Time
Magma - Mekhanik Destruktiw Kommandöh
Van der Graaf Generator: Pawn Hearts
Amon Düül 2 - Tanz der Lemminge.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2006 at 03:23
Hawkind, really?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2006 at 03:23

Originally posted by Cluster One Cluster One wrote:

Agree with most of the albums listed as masterpieces so far, but, are ELP really considered one of the "Big 5"?



If you wanted to narrow down to the top three, they would still be there!

  1. YES
  2. PINK FLOYD
  3. ELP

In the 70's those bands won just about won every music mag poll in just about every category for a period of about four years! IAnd I'm talking respected mags like 'Musical Express & Melody Maker'. Greg Lake even won best producer in 1973. Carl Palmer and Keith Emersom couldn't be touched. Their 1973 tour was the biggest grossing tour for that year [Genesis c/w PG, KC, Camel and Jethro Tull never did a stadium tour at any time in their career. Are ELP a top 5 band, a resounding YES!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2006 at 03:31
Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

Hawkind, really?

Definitely one of the absolutely favourite bands of Jean and me.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2006 at 04:48
YES: CttE, Relayer
GENESIS: Foxtrot, SEBTP, ATOTT
PF: Meddle, DSOTM, WYWH, Animals
ELP: none come even close
KC: none
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2006 at 05:19

YES:

  1. Close to the Edge
  2. The Yes Album
  3. Relayer
  4. Fragile
  5. Drama

GENESIS

  1. Selling England by the Pound
  2. Foxtrot
  3. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
  4. Nursery Cryme
  5. Trespass

PINK FLOYD

  1. Atom Heart Mother
  2. Ummagumma
  3. Dark Side of the Moon
  4. Wish You Were Here
  5. Meddle

KING CRIMSON

  1. Larks Tongues in Aspic
  2. Red
  3. In the Court of the Crimson King
  4. Islands
  5. Thrak

ELP

  1. Trilogy
  2. Brain Salad Surgery
  3. Tarkus
  4. Emerson, Lake and Palmer (1st. album)
  5. Pictures at an Exhibition

And I'd also like to add Jethro Tull to this list! My Tull's Top Five would be:

  1. Stand Up
  2. Aqualung
  3. Thick as a Brick
  4. Minstrel in the Gallery
  5. Songs from the Wood

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2006 at 05:20

Yes - Close To The Edge

Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here

Genesis - Foxtrot,A Trick Of The Tail

ELP - None (but the peices Karn Evil 9 and Tarkus are masterpeices)

King Crimson -None

 

There are few real masterpeices IMO.Far too many albums are overrated in this category.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2006 at 05:22

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

The "Big Five" are not my big five. My big five are Gong, Hawkwind, Magma, Van der Graaf Generator and Amon Düül 2. Their masterpieces are:
Gong - You
Hawkwind - Warrior at the Edge of Time
Magma - Mekhanik Destruktiw Kommandöh
Van der Graaf Generator: Pawn Hearts
Amon Düül 2 - Tanz der Lemminge.

Interesting choices there, it's not my Big Five either.

Can't get into Yes, don't like ELP and I do like some VDGG but not enough. King Crimson is a very acquired taste.

Genesis : SETTP

Pink Floyd : WYWH

Gentle Giant : Octopus

Jethro Tull : Aqualung

At this moment this spot is taken by Banco del Mutuo Soccorso with Darwin!

I was wondering are you and Jean always of one mind ?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2006 at 05:24
King Crimson:
ITCOTCK, Lizard (the title track + Cirkus alone deserve 5 stars), Islands, Red

ELP:
none, really (like Trilogy most)

Pink Floyd:
Atom Heart Mother, Wish you Were here

Genesis:
Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot, Selling England, Lamb

Yes:
Close to the Edge, Relayer
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2006 at 05:28
Why people always forget Jethro Tull?
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