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R_DeNIRO 
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 Posted: February 03 2006 at 23:42 |
 raindance wrote:
Tales wrote:
R_DeNIRO wrote:
I will NEVER understand people giving Foxtrot 5 stars. Supper's ready is fantastic, but the rest of the album...
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I agree with that statement!
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I also agree. Genesis only have one classic album in thier repotoir IMO and that's Wind and Wuthering. Gabriel went on to make much better music as a solo artist.
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Finally I know I'm not alone in the Foxtrot thing  .
I must check Wind and Wuthering, it's the Latimer's favourite, so I have to give it an opportunity.
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Progger
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Posted: February 03 2006 at 23:48 |
R_DeNIRO wrote:
raindance wrote:
Tales wrote:
R_DeNIRO wrote:
I will NEVER understand people giving Foxtrot 5 stars. Supper's ready is fantastic, but the rest of the album...
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I agree with that statement!
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I also agree. Genesis only have one classic album in thier repotoir IMO and that's Wind and Wuthering. Gabriel went on to make much better music as a solo artist.
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Finally I know I'm not alone in the Foxtrot thing .
I must check Wind and Wuthering, it's the Latimer's favourite, so I have to give it an opportunity.
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It's also Tony Banks's favourite!
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: February 03 2006 at 23:52 |
Progger wrote:
In the 70's Genesis couldn't sell out a school hall whilst YES, ELP nad Floyd were packing stadiums and selling millions of albums! Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't they second on the bill to Lindisfarne as late as 1973?
Genesis were guuys who had just left school making their first albums, while ELP, Yes members and Pink Floyd were already famous.
But check Italy and Belgium, the world doesn't start and ends in UK and USA.
I am not paranoid! The recent surge of reviews of CTTE and SEBTP prove that multi reviewing by the same people is happening to try and hustle for the number one spot.
I just proved you that in other top Prog web pages, Genesis does better than here, but youy repeat the same nonsense of corruption.
If you think this site is corrupt, then leave and find an honest´place, you only accuse and never give facts.
I actually like Genesis very, very much but don't think they are an equal to bands like Floyd, ELP, Yes and Camel!!!
Congratulations, but your opinion is not shared by most part of progheads.
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Iván
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Pseud0
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Posted: February 04 2006 at 00:00 |
raindance wrote:
Tales wrote:
R_DeNIRO wrote:
I will NEVER understand people giving Foxtrot 5 stars. Supper's ready is fantastic, but the rest of the album...
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I agree with that statement!
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I also agree. Genesis only have one classic album in thier repotoir
IMO and that's Wind and Wuthering. Gabriel went on to make much better
music as a solo artist. |
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Progger
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Posted: February 04 2006 at 00:02 |
No, I won't leave! People need to know the truth!
Here's a surprise for you! I actually think GENESIS were the best live band [along with ELP] in the 70's but they only had Gabriel to thank for that. The others were in all honesty just his backing band IMO!
Edited by Progger
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: February 04 2006 at 00:35 |
Progger wrote:
No, I won't leave! People need to know the truth!
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What truth?????
Progger wrote:
| "These five star reviews and top ten placings are a joke. Go to any other prog site and you will see GENESIS has only one top ten album and that's Foxtrot!" |
And I proved you were lying:
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Lets go to www.progressiveears.com I will only include the top 5 among 130 to 300 albums per year.:
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| YEAR 1970
N° - Band - Album - Total votes - Total Score.
| 1 |
Genesis - Trespass |
40 |
282 |
| 2 |
Emerson Lake and Palmer - Emerson Lake and Palmer |
35 |
248 |
| 3 |
Van Der Graaf Generator - H To He Who Am The Only One |
28 |
186 |
| 4 |
King Crimson - Lizard |
32 |
185 |
| 5 |
King Crimson - In the Wake of Poseidon |
27 |
158 |
Trespass N° 1 among 132 albums voted for that year
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YEAR 1971
| 1 |
Yes - The Yes Album |
61 |
440 |
| 2 |
Genesis - Nursery Cryme |
59 |
397 |
| 3 |
Van Der Graaf Generator - Pawn Hearts |
44 |
340 |
| 4 |
Emerson Lake And Palmer - Tarkus |
49 |
293 |
| 5 |
Jethro Tull - Aqualung |
49 |
287 |
Nursery Cryme N° 2 (149 albums voted)
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YEAR 1972
| 1 |
Yes - Close to the Edge |
67 |
539 |
| 2 |
Genesis - Foxtrot |
64 |
495 |
| 3 |
Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick |
55 |
385 |
| 4 |
Emerson Lake & Palmer - Trilogy |
38 |
220 |
| 5 |
Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - Darwin! |
32 |
178 |
Foxtrot N° 2 (162 albums voted)
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Year 1973
| 1 |
Genesis - Selling England by the Pound |
90 |
692 |
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King Crimson - Larks' Tongues in Aspic |
70 |
463 |
| 3 |
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon |
75 |
454 |
| 4 |
Yes - Tales From Topographic Oceans |
60 |
372 |
| 5 |
ELP - Brain Salad Surgery |
52 |
346 |
SEBTP N° 1 (173 albums voted)
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YEAR 1974
| 1 |
Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway |
71 |
550 |
| 2 |
Yes - Relayer |
71 |
489 |
| 3 |
King Crimson - Red |
65 |
428 |
| 4 |
Camel - Mirage |
49 |
273 |
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Gentle Giant - The Power and the Glory |
39 |
254 |
TLLDOB N° 1 (184 albums voted)
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Oops, no Gabriel ear Genesis album is bellow N° 2 on their list, lets see the first Collins era albums:
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YEAR 1976
| 1 |
Genesis - A Trick of the Tail |
61 |
471 |
| 2 |
Camel - Moonmadness |
52 |
341 |
| 3 |
Genesis - Wind and Wuthering |
48 |
337 |
| 4 |
Van der Graaf Generator - Still Life |
45 |
324 |
| 5 |
Kansas - Leftoverture |
44 |
276 |
Again funny, ATOTT is N° 1 and W&W is N° 3!!!!! (251 albums voted)
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So as always YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING THE TRUTH!!!!
But lets not rush, maybe year by year vote is flawed, so lets check their TOP 20 PROGRESSIVE ROCK ALBUMS EVER:
| 1 |
Yes - Close To The Edge |
88 |
620 |
| 2 |
Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway |
69 |
476 |
| 3 |
Genesis - Selling England By The Pound |
66 |
473 |
| 4 |
Yes - Relayer |
60 |
407 |
| 5 |
King Crimson - In The Court Of The Crimson King |
48 |
289 |
| 6 |
Genesis - Foxtrot |
45 |
259 |
| 7 |
Yes - Tales From Topographic Oceans |
39 |
253 |
| 8 |
Emerson Lake and Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery |
42 |
242 |
| 9 |
Pink Floyd - Dark Side Of The Moon |
38 |
229 |
| 10 |
Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick |
40 |
226 |
| 11 |
King Crimson - Red |
38 |
226 |
| 12 |
Yes - The Yes Album |
28 |
194 |
| 13 |
King Crimson - Larks Tongues In Aspic |
26 |
182 |
| 14 |
Van Der Graaf Generator - Pawn Hearts |
24 |
131 |
| 15 |
Yes - Fragile |
25 |
125 |
| 16 |
Genesis - Nursery Cryme |
22 |
119 |
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Pink Floyd - Animals |
19 |
114 |
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Jethro Tull - A Passion Play |
16 |
114 |
| 19 |
King Crimson - Discipline |
22 |
113 |
| 20 |
Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here |
19 |
107 |
http://www.progressiveears.com/polls/poll_results.asp?pollid =0&pollyr=all |
This are facts, numbers and web pages that prove you talk without even knowing the truth.
Iván
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Thufir Hawat
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Posted: February 04 2006 at 00:47 |
This may disturb some people but on
Genesis albums are masterpieces,
Without Hackett Genesis is pretty weak.
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"I can't see through my eye lids"
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Progger
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Posted: February 04 2006 at 00:51 |
Thufir Hawat wrote:
This may disturb some people but on
Genesis albums are masterpieces,
Without Hackett Genesis is pretty weak.
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It dosn't disturb me! I agree that Genesis never made a masterpiece! Each album whilst having some classic tracks are spoilt by average and mediocre filler!
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Thufir Hawat
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Posted: February 04 2006 at 01:08 |
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"I can't see through my eye lids"
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Posted: February 04 2006 at 06:33 |
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foxtrot is great, but suppers ready isnt even among the best 4 songs on the album. I think Genesis were a better band in 76 and 77
Edited by gentletull
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ProgShine
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Posted: February 04 2006 at 07:12 |
I think that surely we stay a little forced to get in, in the Genesis music, and some people give 5 stars just to not stay 'behind' the others, but yes Genesis is great and Nursery Crime, Foxtrot, Selling England By The Pound & Wind &Wuthering are great albuns 4 1/2 for all of them.
And about The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway I think they're lost in the way, and the album isn't great how they could do. 3 for it.
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https://progshinerecords.bandcamp.com 
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micky
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Posted: February 04 2006 at 09:03 |
ivan_2068 wrote:
Lets go to www.progressiveears.com I will only include the top 5 among 130 to 300 albums per year.:
| YEAR 1970
N° - Band - Album - Total votes - Total Score.
| 1 |
Genesis - Trespass |
40 |
282 |
| 2 |
Emerson Lake and Palmer - Emerson Lake and Palmer |
35 |
248 |
| 3 |
Van Der Graaf Generator - H To He Who Am The Only One |
28 |
186 |
| 4 |
King Crimson - Lizard |
32 |
185 |
| 5 |
King Crimson - In the Wake of Poseidon |
27 |
158 |
Trespass N° 1 among 132 albums voted for that year
hahahhah, that one does nothing
but illustrate Progger's claim. A good but still weak debut OVER
one of the defining albums of the early prog area, and a great album to
boot. Only a Genesis fan, or an ELP hater would vote that way
hahahahha.
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YEAR 1971
| 1 |
Yes - The Yes Album |
61 |
440 |
| 2 |
Genesis - Nursery Cryme |
59 |
397 |
| 3 |
Van Der Graaf Generator - Pawn Hearts |
44 |
340 |
| 4 |
Emerson Lake And Palmer - Tarkus |
49 |
293 |
| 5 |
Jethro Tull - Aqualung |
49 |
287 |
Nursery Cryme N° 2 (149 albums voted)
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YEAR 1972
| 1 |
Yes - Close to the Edge |
67 |
539 |
| 2 |
Genesis - Foxtrot |
64 |
495 |
| 3 |
Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick |
55 |
385 |
| 4 |
Emerson Lake & Palmer - Trilogy |
38 |
220 |
| 5 |
Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - Darwin! |
32 |
178 |
Foxtrot N° 2 (162 albums voted)
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Year 1973
| 1 |
Genesis - Selling England by the Pound |
90 |
692 |
| 2 |
King Crimson - Larks' Tongues in Aspic |
70 |
463 |
| 3 |
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon |
75 |
454 |
| 4 |
Yes - Tales From Topographic Oceans |
60 |
372 |
| 5 |
ELP - Brain Salad Surgery |
52 |
346 |
SEBTP N° 1 (173 albums voted)
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YEAR 1974
| 1 |
Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway |
71 |
550 |
| 2 |
Yes - Relayer |
71 |
489 |
| 3 |
King Crimson - Red |
65 |
428 |
| 4 |
Camel - Mirage |
49 |
273 |
| 5 |
Gentle Giant - The Power and the Glory |
39 |
254 |
TLLDOB N° 1 (184 albums voted)
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Oops, no Gabriel ear Genesis album is bellow N° 2 on their list, lets see the first Collins era albums:
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YEAR 1976
| 1 |
Genesis - A Trick of the Tail |
61 |
471 |
| 2 |
Camel - Moonmadness |
52 |
341 |
| 3 |
Genesis - Wind and Wuthering |
48 |
337 |
| 4 |
Van der Graaf Generator - Still Life |
45 |
324 |
| 5 |
Kansas - Leftoverture |
44 |
276 |
Again funny, ATOTT is N° 1 and W&W is N° 3!!!!! (251 albums voted)
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So as always YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING THE TRUTH!!!!
But lets not rush, maybe year by year vote is flawed, so lets check their TOP 20 PROGRESSIVE ROCK ALBUMS EVER:
| 1 |
Yes - Close To The Edge |
88 |
620 |
| 2 |
Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway |
69 |
476 |
| 3 |
Genesis - Selling England By The Pound |
66 |
473 |
| 4 |
Yes - Relayer |
60 |
407 |
| 5 |
King Crimson - In The Court Of The Crimson King |
48 |
289 |
| 6 |
Genesis - Foxtrot |
45 |
259 |
| 7 |
Yes - Tales From Topographic Oceans |
39 |
253 |
| 8 |
Emerson Lake and Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery |
42 |
242 |
| 9 |
Pink Floyd - Dark Side Of The Moon |
38 |
229 |
| 10 |
Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick |
40 |
226 |
| 11 |
King Crimson - Red |
38 |
226 |
| 12 |
Yes - The Yes Album |
28 |
194 |
| 13 |
King Crimson - Larks Tongues In Aspic |
26 |
182 |
| 14 |
Van Der Graaf Generator - Pawn Hearts |
24 |
131 |
| 15 |
Yes - Fragile |
25 |
125 |
| 16 |
Genesis - Nursery Cryme |
22 |
119 |
| 17 |
Pink Floyd - Animals |
19 |
114 |
| 18 |
Jethro Tull - A Passion Play |
16 |
114 |
| 19 |
King Crimson - Discipline |
22 |
113 |
| 20 |
Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here |
19 |
107 |
http://www.progressiveears.com/polls/poll_results.asp?pollid =0&pollyr=all
Iván |
hahahhah,
that one does nothing but illustrate Progger's claim. A good but still
weak debut OVER one of the defining albums of the early prog era, and
a great album to boot. Only a Genesis fan, or an ELP hater would vote
that way hahahahha.
Nursery Cryme... personal opinion that is the most most overrated album
on this site. A good album don't get me wrong.. but nowhere near
the classic status annointed on it. I do see where Progger is
coming in some respects. In my mind the 20 minutes alone of the Tarkus
suite are more 'classic' than the whole of Nursery Cryme.
Listening to Tarkus is a required lesson in Prog 101 'Introduction to
Prog'. Nursery Cryme falls in Prog 311 - 'To Call it a
classic doesn't make it a classic' hahahhaha.
Foxtrot, IMO the first essential Genesis album, and a lesson in Prog
101. Would have it at 3, behind CttE and Thick as a Brick... both
more commercially sucessful and much more innovative than Foxtrot.
Selling England by the Pound. My favorite Genesis album, and can
see why people would put in at #1, though I think the other 4 are
better albums and greater albums within the genre.
The Lamb... never got that album. I've tried. It honestly bores me.
A Trick of the Tail. Fabulous album and probably their most important album in the grand scheme of things prog.
Ivan, while you may fault the messenger don't flame the message. There
are many groups and albums I really really like... doesn't make them
classics are the top albums in any given year. Genesis did put
out some fabulous albums.... but to to call damn near their entire
catatlog 'classic' stretches the lines of objectivity. IMO of
course. 
Edited by micky
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RoyalJelly
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Posted: February 04 2006 at 09:26 |
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To all the whiners about an overrated Genesis: If any or all of you
could ever achieve one thing in life half as creative or original as any of
the early Genesis albums, your harping might be a bit more credible. As it
is, spewing out vaccuous negative comments about some of the most
important and fruitful work of the early progressive years certainly isn't
advancing anyone toward such a goal. That something doesn't pass to
your personal taste is no reason to go on whining and sputtering about it,
especially when obviously many others find it incredibly inspiring.
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micky
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Posted: February 04 2006 at 09:44 |
To all who get their panties in a wad when someone dares question their
favorite group..... get a life ahahhahah. It's all in fun.
Genesis isn't overrated.... they are just BEING overrated.
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RoyalJelly
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Posted: February 04 2006 at 10:55 |
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Question all you want, as long as you've something to say, but this
whole bit about overrating, underrating is a waste of time, and leads to
miles of useless threads. Music succeeds or doesn't on its own terms,
how this guy rates it or that guy underrates it is irrelevant to the music
itself...rating is for sports. Obviously by its standing in the polls, Genesis,
Yes, etc. are important to a lot of people for good reasons. What you
mean by overrated is that YOU don't like it so much, so why not say it
that way?
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moonlitbay
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Posted: February 04 2006 at 15:04 |
I think we got a good discussion out of this one 
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A reunion.......it will never happen in my lifetime!!
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Gianthogweed
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Posted: February 04 2006 at 17:40 |
Genesis is my favorite band, but I actually tend to agree that in the context of this website, it is slightly overrated. This is why I haven't written reviews on their more classic albums. Afterall, what more can be said? I prefer writing reviews for the more neglected albums and bands. Nevertheless, I generally agree with the rankings. CTTE and SETB are two flawless albums from the height of the progressive rock era.
Outside the context of this website I think Genesis, particularly Gabriel/Hackett era Genesis, is severely underrated, so in a way, I'm happy that it has some place to be overrated.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: February 07 2006 at 14:24 |
micky wrote:
ivan_2068 wrote:
Lets go to www.progressiveears.com I will only include the top 5 among 130 to 300 albums per year.:
| YEAR 1970
N° - Band - Album - Total votes - Total Score.
| 1 |
Genesis - Trespass |
40 |
282 |
| 2 |
Emerson Lake and Palmer - Emerson Lake and Palmer |
35 |
248 |
| 3 |
Van Der Graaf Generator - H To He Who Am The Only One |
28 |
186 |
| 4 |
King Crimson - Lizard |
32 |
185 |
| 5 |
King Crimson - In the Wake of Poseidon |
27 |
158 |
Trespass N° 1 among 132 albums voted for that year
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YEAR 1971
| 1 |
Yes - The Yes Album |
61 |
440 |
| 2 |
Genesis - Nursery Cryme |
59 |
397 |
| 3 |
Van Der Graaf Generator - Pawn Hearts |
44 |
340 |
| 4 |
Emerson Lake And Palmer - Tarkus |
49 |
293 |
| 5 |
Jethro Tull - Aqualung |
49 |
287 |
Nursery Cryme N° 2 (149 albums voted)
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YEAR 1972
| 1 |
Yes - Close to the Edge |
67 |
539 |
| 2 |
Genesis - Foxtrot |
64 |
495 |
| 3 |
Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick |
55 |
385 |
| 4 |
Emerson Lake & Palmer - Trilogy |
38 |
220 |
| 5 |
Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - Darwin! |
32 |
178 |
Foxtrot N° 2 (162 albums voted)
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Year 1973
| 1 |
Genesis - Selling England by the Pound |
90 |
692 |
| 2 |
King Crimson - Larks' Tongues in Aspic |
70 |
463 |
| 3 |
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon |
75 |
454 |
| 4 |
Yes - Tales From Topographic Oceans |
60 |
372 |
| 5 |
ELP - Brain Salad Surgery |
52 |
346 |
SEBTP N° 1 (173 albums voted)
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YEAR 1974
| 1 |
Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway |
71 |
550 |
| 2 |
Yes - Relayer |
71 |
489 |
| 3 |
King Crimson - Red |
65 |
428 |
| 4 |
Camel - Mirage |
49 |
273 |
| 5 |
Gentle Giant - The Power and the Glory |
39 |
254 |
TLLDOB N° 1 (184 albums voted)
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Oops, no Gabriel ear Genesis album is bellow N° 2 on their list, lets see the first Collins era albums:
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YEAR 1976
| 1 |
Genesis - A Trick of the Tail |
61 |
471 |
| 2 |
Camel - Moonmadness |
52 |
341 |
| 3 |
Genesis - Wind and Wuthering |
48 |
337 |
| 4 |
Van der Graaf Generator - Still Life |
45 |
324 |
| 5 |
Kansas - Leftoverture |
44 |
276 |
Again funny, ATOTT is N° 1 and W&W is N° 3!!!!! (251 albums voted)
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So as always YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING THE TRUTH!!!!
But lets not rush, maybe year by year vote is flawed, so lets check their TOP 20 PROGRESSIVE ROCK ALBUMS EVER:
| 1 |
Yes - Close To The Edge |
88 |
620 |
| 2 |
Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway |
69 |
476 |
| 3 |
Genesis - Selling England By The Pound |
66 |
473 |
| 4 |
Yes - Relayer |
60 |
407 |
| 5 |
King Crimson - In The Court Of The Crimson King |
48 |
289 |
| 6 |
Genesis - Foxtrot |
45 |
259 |
| 7 |
Yes - Tales From Topographic Oceans |
39 |
253 |
| 8 |
Emerson Lake and Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery |
42 |
242 |
| 9 |
Pink Floyd - Dark Side Of The Moon |
38 |
229 |
| 10 |
Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick |
40 |
226 |
| 11 |
King Crimson - Red |
38 |
226 |
| 12 |
Yes - The Yes Album |
28 |
194 |
| 13 |
King Crimson - Larks Tongues In Aspic |
26 |
182 |
| 14 |
Van Der Graaf Generator - Pawn Hearts |
24 |
131 |
| 15 |
Yes - Fragile |
25 |
125 |
| 16 |
Genesis - Nursery Cryme |
22 |
119 |
| 17 |
Pink Floyd - Animals |
19 |
114 |
| 18 |
Jethro Tull - A Passion Play |
16 |
114 |
| 19 |
King Crimson - Discipline |
22 |
113 |
| 20 |
Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here |
19 |
107 |
http://www.progressiveears.com/polls/poll_results.asp?pollid =0&pollyr=all
Iván
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hahahhah, that one does nothing but illustrate Progger's claim. A good but still weak debut OVER one of the defining albums of the early prog era, and a great album to boot. Only a Genesis fan, or an ELP hater would vote that way hahahahha.
Micky, Are you blind? Do you know how to read?
Progger said that Genesis is OVERRATED IN THIS PLACE, AND THAT OUTSIDE PROGARCHIVES, NOBODY GIVES A DAMN ABOUT GENESIS:
He also said that we are corrupt, and no other Progressive Rock site cares about Genesis.
I'm giving you a poll MADE IN PROGRESSIVE EARS, a site member of the PROGRESSIVE ROCK WEB RING, considered among the three top in the net, and Gnesis MAKES BETTER THAN HERE
In that case is proved that Progger LIES, becaus4e outside Prog Archives, Genesis is as well considered as here.
You can go to PROGRESSOR, GNOSIS or any other member of the Progressive Rock Web Ring and you´ll find Genesis is on the top in each and every one.
Nursery Cryme... personal opinion that is the most most overrated album on this site. A good album don't get me wrong.. but nowhere near the classic status annointed on it. I do see where Progger is coming in some respects. In my mind the 20 minutes alone of the Tarkus suite are more 'classic' than the whole of Nursery Cryme. Listening to Tarkus is a required lesson in Prog 101 'Introduction to Prog'. Nursery Cryme falls in Prog 311 - 'To Call it a classic doesn't make it a classic' hahahhaha.
Is that your opinion or a fact?
If it's only your opinion, I believe I proved you are not in the majority.
Foxtrot, IMO the first essential Genesis album, and a lesson in Prog 101. Would have it at 3, behind CttE and Thick as a Brick... both more commercially sucessful and much more innovative than Foxtrot.
Why? Because you say it???? IMO it's the third essential Genesis album, and I consider my opinion as valid as yours.
Selling England by the Pound. My favorite Genesis album, and can see why people would put in at #1, though I think the other 4 are better albums and greater albums within the genre.
But people voted in that way, it's their opinion, and this poll wasn't done here.
The Lamb... never got that album. I've tried. It honestly bores me.
That's your problem, not ours, maybe you should try with Thriller or or some Backstreet Boys albums, are easier to get into.
A Trick of the Tail. Fabulous album and probably their most important album in the grand scheme of things prog.
It's your opinion and I respect it, but don't share it.
Ivan, while you may fault the messenger don't flame the message. There are many groups and albums I really really like... doesn't make them classics are the top albums in any given year. Genesis did put out some fabulous albums.... but to to call damn near their entire catatlog 'classic' stretches the lines of objectivity. IMO of course.
Micky, READ, Progger said Genesis is only well considered in Prog Archives, I proved it was a LIE.
I don't even gave an opinion about the albums, just copied POLLS FROM ANOTHER SITE!!!!
I know you want to answer, but better read before, I only proved that a member was saying something that is not true.
Genesis is considered a top band in every respectable Progressive Rock site.
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Ounamahl
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Posted: February 07 2006 at 14:48 |
Haha Ivan rocks!
Anyway, this "overrated/underrated" thing just is not right. People
give 5 stars to Genesis' albums because they like them, don't they? And
I don't know, but does this sites (www.progarchives.com)
"best-prog-album" -ratings have an effect in your everyday life, are
you really addicted to this site? Does it really matter that there are 4
Genesis albums in top10? Nobody cares in the end... There are people
who loves other respected bands like ELP or Yes, go to your own kind!
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Posted: February 07 2006 at 17:23 |
Ounamahl wrote:
Haha Ivan rocks!
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we love Ivan! hahahhaha.... don't agree with him at times... but respect the hell out of him.
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