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Henry Plainview ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 26 2008 Location: Declined Status: Offline Points: 16715 |
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Peter Brotzmann is usually most thought of for his contributions in the Albert Ayler school of saxophone playing to free blowouts like Machine Gun, but I think he's also relevant to our website because of the avant-garde jazz-rock of Last Exit. Last Exit was a "supergroup" with him, Sonny Sharrock, Bill Laswell (who I think is being considered for inclusion), and Ronald Shannon Jackson (who is under Jazz Fusion). To quote the AMG review of their s/t "In the mid-'80s, Bill Laswell had a great idea. Why not combine rock's raging rhythms and volume with free improvisation's unfettered creativity and ferocity?" This is what it sounded like, (more and just for fun, here is them playing with Diamanda Galas, who is also here) and while I think we can all agree that it's progressive, I also think it clearly rocks hard enough to be considered here. They also have historical importance to the development of prog because they paved the way for Naked City and Painkiller, and The Flying Luttenbachers sound exactly like them, just faster (and they are much worse at it, but that's beside the point). I think they would probably fit better in Avant than Fusion, but I'm not the expert. ;-)Edited by Henry Plainview - December 22 2009 at 20:50 |
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Padraic ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
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I've warmed to this. Work on Luke, see what he thinks.
One of our new ZARTians Captain Capricorn was big on Laswell solo inclusion, would probably support Last Exit as well - haven't seen him around much though. |
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A Person ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 10 2008 Location: __ Status: Offline Points: 65760 |
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Just from the samples you posted, I would say they definitely rock hard enough to be included here. I hope they make the cut.
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ko ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2009 Status: Offline Points: 314 |
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Awesome solo by Sonny Sharrock,1968
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=408EoZe70Rs
Agreed> Last Exit would be @ PA!!! Edited by ko - December 23 2009 at 01:24 |
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CPicard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 03 2008 Location: Là, sui monti. Status: Offline Points: 10841 |
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Since I just borrowed their live album "Köln", I would listen to it. I thought they were plain free-jazz, but it's true that some critics even heard some metal-like riffs in their music.
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snobb ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: August 20 2009 Location: Vilnius,LT,EU Status: Offline Points: 3584 |
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From mthe samples above - they are great free jazz band, but cant find jazz-rock or fusion too much there. If there will be free-jazz/avant jazz on PA ( and I really will be happy with that!), they should be placed there. But I can't see them in present JRF section ( am I right, John?). About RIO I am not sure, but again, I afraid, that free jazz is to far from RIO/avant interests
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Easy Money ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10750 |
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As per the last conversation with the Captain and Patdraic, we thought ZART was their best fit on PA.
Sonny Sharrock's guitar playing can be incredible sometimes. It was very strange when he played somewhat commercial pop-jazz with Herbie Mann, he kept his same style and Herbie kept him in the band. Edited by Easy Money - December 23 2009 at 08:15 |
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You'd be surprised. ![]() Listening to some stuff from their s/t, there's more there than "just" a free-jazz outfit. It has that NY sort of "punk" edge to it, if you excuse the term. We're definitely not in Albert Ayler or Ornette Coleman territory here. |
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