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    Posted: January 02 2011 at 17:35

I am only after a Plain result so no other options,

 

I’m not American so I am only superficially interested in this, from Historical and tabloidical points of view. I have never felt their politics on may body (or I have but I have never "lived" under nether of them, of course I’m old enough to have lived through both periods (since I’m born in 86), I have lived through 5 or 6 presidents)

 

Who will in 100 years of history be remembered as the better president

 

To just quote one of my teachers "HW Bush will be remembered as one of the great presidents" 

 

But I don't know

 

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H.W. was more honorable, and I use that word very reluctantly.  They are descendants from Nazi lovers.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

Who will in 100 years of history be remembered as the better president

I hope, neither.
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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

H.W. was more honorable, and I use that word very reluctantly.  They are descendants from Nazi lovers.
http://www.rense.com/general42/bshnazi.htm


Bet one of your ancestors owned slaves.
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Slart hit it on the head...........Nazi lovers, not many people know that...............And the dulles boys the same, and they named an airport in the nation`s capital after a monster named dulles, I would not vote for either for anything
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Both were pretty atrocious presidents, but at least one doesn't have the Patriot act and Gitmo on his record. 
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Maybe everyone who drives a Volkswagen or wears Hugo Boss is a Nazi-lover too.
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^ You better brush up on your history if you doubt the Bushes and Dulles did not have big time nazi connections
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Do you realize how many Jewish politicians were connected to George Bush and his cabinet? 
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Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

^ You better brush up on your history if you doubt the Bushes and Dulles did not have big time nazi connections


You'd better brush up on your reading skills if you saw me denying the Bushes had anything to do with Nazis.  Wink
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^how many?
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Let's throw one name out there: Irving Kristol. Thus evaporating any idea of a nazi connection. 
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My reading skills are fine thanks
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Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

My reading skills are fine thanks


As is my knowledge of history, thanks.  Smile
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and supposing someone;s ancestors were slave owners is different from knowing
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Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

and supposing someone;s ancestors were slave owners is different from knowing


You missed my point.

My point is, you don't judge a person for what a person's father or distant ancestor did.
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If you indict people for crimes their ancestors committed, you have no sense of attribution of wrongdoing and I hope to The Universe that you never appear on a jury.

HW, because at least he knew how to end a war.

More importantly, NOT Dubya because he is either an easily led simpleton or a frighteningly and apologetically immoral person. Probably bits of both given his verbal foibles and refusal to admit anything wrong about waterboarding.
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and my point is bush in the early cia days had a role in aiding Nazi war criminals, yes George Bush sr.
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I am not Talking about ancestors, I am saying George Bush sr, as for georgie jr., no, he broke the anti semite tradition
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Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

I am not Talking about ancestors, I am saying George Bush sr, as for georgie jr., no, he broke the anti semite tradition


Congratulations, you just hit 1000 posts.

That's all I have to say.
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