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justin4950834-2
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Topic: How have you introduced people to Prog? Posted: April 14 2015 at 12:23 |
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I usually move towards avant garde when introducing people, its weirder sounding but it doesn't sound as old and corny to them (not that I think prog is corny except for newer bands like the flower kings, transatlantic, ect.)
They usually dig it, Ive even had good comments from playing the Residents. |
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progaardvark
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Posted: April 14 2015 at 11:09 | |
I've found that with colleagues that are into mainstream pop music with dashes of AOR, sometimes the easiest steps are using those albums that the greats of the 1970s did in the 1980s. You know, like Yes' 90125 and other albums of that quality. Some people need "baby steps." Still, others are adventurous enough to take a leap off a cliff (e.g. Area's Maledetti).
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Upbeat Tango Monday
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 10 2015 Location: Buenos Aires Status: Offline Points: 1189 |
Posted: April 14 2015 at 08:03 | |
I'd give them records of modern bands such as Dream Theater, Angra and Symphony X. That said, there are thounsands of DT fans in Argentina, but most of them are into metal. So it's not an easy task to make people appreciate 70's prog even if they like those bands.
Also...whatever you do, don't start your "prog 101 lessons" with "Pawn Hearts" or "TFTO" We want people to like prog, not hate it.
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justin4950834-2
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Posted: April 13 2015 at 22:25 | |
I have a bunch of friends that like weird unpredictable music, but when I introduce them to prog it just doesn't click for them. I thinks it because its to dated, I guess.
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Kati
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Posted: April 05 2015 at 01:13 | |
Toddler, Yes I have and succeeded at it too. One of them is a PA member called Kozmo, she is a self-professed metalhead. My cousin Tatiana too, both became almost obsessed with POS while at first not quite understand what progressive moozik was at first. I can name atleast 5 people who I introduced to POS and they became even bigger fans then me We need to open up more and give people more credit, none prog listeners at times are more receptive especially to new prog bands compared to some current prog listeners. Their excitement is infectious big hug to you,
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Kati
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Posted: April 05 2015 at 00:57 | |
SteveG hug and some more huggies (the lather not nappy brand btw) and some more Yes somehow this is true, SteveG. I relate charm to a positive outlook and speaking with conviction things that makes you happy while also having an altruistic sense/need/urge inside you to share the wonderful happy feeling inside you in the hopes that others might feel so happy as you too at the time such a wonderful feeling really. Again
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HackettFan
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Posted: April 04 2015 at 22:57 | |
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TODDLER
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Posted: April 02 2015 at 10:19 | |
Are you serious? In what part of the world did you do this? I certainly hope not in the U.S...where we may very well have those certain famous Prog cities cultivated by sincere Prog heads, where upon outsiders gain interest through gossip circulation , but the majority of the country is split in sections where specific styles of commercially viable music take hold with a populated amount of spectators. America has always been a big fat commercial exploitation with the arts. For example, in the 70's.. many European Rock bands would gain the opportunity to have their album released in the U.S. with a domestic hard back cover and their first question was..."Well, why can't we use the original album cover?" The second question would be..."Why are you people changing the order of the tracks?" The third question would be..."Why have you omitted certain album tracks?" Have you tried this with Americans who have been living in the commercial dream world for years? This country used to have a appreciation for Prog and it's authenticity. Ironically, that had a lot to do with they way Prog was being presented through the media. Some Americans question why they should pay attention to a style of music ..such as Prog...when it literally fell by the wayside long ago, which leaves their poor little minds to wonder if the music wasn't lame in the first place in order for this whole disaster to occur. |
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Kati
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
Posted: March 30 2015 at 02:21 | |
Are you guys willing to do a little test survey with me? This could be interesting for PA site too. I'll make a new forum topic and post 3 completely different songs by one artist (certainly prog by anyone's view), with this band I have converted some women and men into liking "prog".
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Tapfret
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Posted: March 30 2015 at 01:13 | |
Introduction usually goes something like this:
"It listens to Kohntarkosz or it gets the hose again" And if you are wondering, yes, that line is from Silence of the Lamb Lies Down on Broadway. Edited by Tapfret - March 30 2015 at 01:15 |
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Kati
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Posted: March 29 2015 at 21:46 | |
The little problem I found sometimes with introducing people to prog especially
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Rednight
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Posted: March 29 2015 at 19:54 | |
With gusto (and no catchy Peter Gabriel in the vein of Sledgehammer!)!
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Siloportem
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Posted: March 29 2015 at 04:09 | |
This makes it sound really cool. Or really creepyweird like some kind of cult.
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AreYouHuman
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 12 2013 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 470 |
Posted: March 28 2015 at 22:08 | |
With me it’s been sporadic at
best.
My biggest “success story” was
with a guy I had a correspondence with in the 1980s, originally out of mutual
interests in comics and animation. We were
already around the same age, and when we started discussing music, we found out
our interests already overlapped in some areas.
His tastes were already pretty varied; he was already a fan of Tull,
Yes, ELP, but oddly was unfamiliar with Genesis prior to their more commercial
period. So through mix tapes I sent him
I turned him on to Genesis, Steve Hackett, Ant Phillips, Happy the Man, Kit
Watkins and much much more.
Other than that, the reactions
I’ve gotten might best be described as a raucous burst of indifference. When I was staying in a Navy barracks between
1981-83, I would leave the door to my room ajar so that anyone who wanted to
could stick his head in and inquire about whatever I had playing. But I got very few if any takers.
I had a manufacturing job a few
years ago where I was usually working in a slightly more isolated area (though
with a lot of passing foot traffic) where I could pretty well listen to
whatever I wanted. But again I’d get
little response. There was one guy who
often worked the same hours I did, and our tastes overlapped a little but not
so much in prog.
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TradeMark0
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 26 2014 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 109 |
Posted: December 08 2014 at 19:19 | |
I was and still am a hip hop fan. It's definitely possible to get one into prog but it depends on their tastes. someone who is into RATM might be able to get into Tool. Someone who is into A Tribe Called Quest might be able to get into jazz and then get into jazz rock. Someone who is into Beastie boys might be able to get into classic rock and then get into prog rock. But if they listen to 50 Cent there probably isn't any hope for them. |
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SteveG
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Posted: December 08 2014 at 16:21 | |
^I stand corrected MM, but that's why I brought up the young man's girlfriend who seemed more open minded.
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Metalmarsh89
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Posted: December 08 2014 at 16:18 | |
That reminds me of a friend who's big into hip-hop, but that's not all. He likes The Dixie Chicks, Rush, Zappa, Animals as Leaders, Drake, be-bop, anything under the sun. And he used to be a singer in a death metal band. People are indeed hard to comprehend. |
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Glimpse
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Posted: December 08 2014 at 16:16 | |
One of my friends asked my about the kind of music that I listen to after became curious in the Genesis shirt I was wearing. The next day she told me that she had looked them up and listened to most of their albums online, and that she had really enjoyed them. Since then I've been sharing some of my other prog CDs with her, most of which she has also liked.
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Metalmarsh89
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Posted: December 08 2014 at 16:14 | |
I've tried. It really doesn't work unless they already have a foot in the door.
But careful selection is important. Some young people just don't like old music. I've got a friend who enjoys American folk music. I played Jethro Tull while we were in the car one time. Though he liked it, he said he couldn't stand the fact that it didn't sound modern. It's funny though, because he calls himself a Zeppelin fan. But yes they are very different. And another friend of mine is a huge electronic music fan. But again, he didn't really dig Tangerine Dream because it was a bit aged for him. So I don't really try anymore to expose other people to prog, depending on the person. But when someone turns the radio on and asks what station I'd like to hear, I am emphatic that 90% of the music is crap (yes I know that's a bit broad) and there's a 100% chance it won't play what I'd like to hear. But then I'll explain the music I listen to doesn't belong on FM radio; it's not made for that format. But at that point, people assume that because it's not on radio, it must be weird or garbage. The connections folks make are interesting. |
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SteveG
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Posted: December 08 2014 at 15:52 | |
Now that I recall, I turned on a friend who is a Styx and Journey AOR fan to Spock's Beard's X album. He later bought the new SB Brief Nocturnes album.
So again, I think it can be done if your targeted audience is at least into some form of Rock. I don't think this can ever be done with a hip hop fan as I remember one making fun of the genre to his girlfriend in a specialty record shop. However, the girlfriend still seemed fascinated by the very name 'Progressive rock', so as long as there's an interest, there's hope.
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