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Michael678
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Topic: "Echoes Vs "SOYCD" Posted: December 31 2014 at 16:41 |
some days its Echoes, some days its Shine On; the "Both Equally" choice then i say.
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ole-the-first
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Posted: December 31 2014 at 12:54 |
Shine On You Crazy Diamond
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This night wounds time.
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Posted: December 31 2014 at 12:48 |
Shine on, you crazy diamonds.
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Posted: December 31 2014 at 12:28 |
Another one
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Posted: September 25 2014 at 17:52 |
addictedtoprog wrote:
To me "Echoes" is one of those special songs which has and wud always sound fresh however deep i plunge into the cosmic ocean of prog.
"A Timeless Classic" . |
I couldn't figure out how to justify voting for Echoes, so I'll borrow your idea: "Going Strong & Sounding Fresh for 43 Years and Counting"
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Posted: September 25 2014 at 17:30 |
Shine On You Crazy Diamond.
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When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night.
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Posted: September 24 2014 at 04:23 |
Xonty wrote:
Shine On for me, although Echoes definitely has its moments (but a bit outdated for me to be honest ) |
To me "Echoes" is one of those special songs which has and wud always sound fresh however deep i plunge into the cosmic ocean of prog.
"A Timeless Classic" .
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Posted: September 23 2014 at 14:18 |
Shine On for me, although Echoes definitely has its moments (but a bit outdated for me to be honest )
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Posted: September 23 2014 at 10:10 |
ECHOES. You can't find any "Equal" stuffs. "Equal" things never exist specially in Art.
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Posted: September 23 2014 at 06:23 |
I gotta say that both are the equivalent of joy for me.....
Add to that Atom Heart Mother and we have a triptych of fantastic Prog-Floyd that rivals the best of any sub-genre.....
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Posted: September 23 2014 at 06:10 |
uduwudu wrote:
I used to work in some cavern somewhere sometime that had a door that, when moved briefly made exactly the same ping at the start of Echoes. They could have recorded it much cheaper there. Both fantastic pieces. Echoes is an instrumental with vocals illustrating what the music portrays, Shine On has that sense of space and eternity that fits in with the remember Syd idea. Oddly perhaps,I prefer to think of the lyrics in a more abstract way, more general perhaps. I, er, did not know Syd. Few did. But they both have that monumental epic quality. And DG guitar. |
I almost forgot Echoes had vocals on it but yes between all even sounded like the phantom of the opera except not related to the fab lead guitar breaks yay!
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Posted: September 23 2014 at 06:06 |
I used to work in some cavern somewhere sometime that had a door that, when moved briefly made exactly the same ping at the start of Echoes. They could have recorded it much cheaper there.
Both fantastic pieces. Echoes is an instrumental with vocals illustrating what the music portrays, Shine On has that sense of space and eternity that fits in with the remember Syd idea. Oddly perhaps,I prefer to think of the lyrics in a more abstract way, more general perhaps. I, er, did not know Syd. Few did. But they both have that monumental epic quality. And DG guitar.
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Posted: September 23 2014 at 00:38 |
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Kati
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Posted: September 23 2014 at 00:08 |
addictedtoprog wrote:
Kati wrote:
addictedtoprog wrote:
Just finished listening to Meddle and WYWH in entirety back to back. As always after finishing m thinking-which one is better.
During this particular listen i enjoyed 'SOYCD' a lot..maybe coz i played it today almost after an year..
For 'Echoes' i hav always felt it to be essential Pink Floyd and essential space rock..and i still play it at least once a week. Echoes |
addictedtoprog, my vote goes to Echoes, I love that spacy submarine radar plink plink sound going into the deep dark emptiness.
Funny thing about this track is that the band were at first not much impressed by it infact they named it at first'Nothing, Parts 1-24.' After later edits, the song was called 'Return of the Son of Nothing' before it received its final title.
I simply adore this song, every listen is aaahhh wow
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Posted: September 22 2014 at 23:55 |
Kati wrote:
addictedtoprog wrote:
Just finished listening to Meddle and WYWH in entirety back to back. As always after finishing m thinking-which one is better.
During this particular listen i enjoyed 'SOYCD' a lot..maybe coz i played it today almost after an year..
For 'Echoes' i hav always felt it to be essential Pink Floyd and essential space rock..and i still play it at least once a week. Echoes |
addictedtoprog, my vote goes to Echoes, I love that spacy submarine radar plink plink sound going into the deep dark emptiness.
Funny thing about this track is that the band were at first not much impressed by it infact they named it at first'Nothing, Parts 1-24.' After later edits, the song was called 'Return of the Son of Nothing' before it received its final title.
I simply adore this song, every listen is aaahhh wow
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Posted: September 22 2014 at 23:32 |
Echoes is the essence of Pink Floyd.
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Kati
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Posted: September 22 2014 at 22:47 |
Luna wrote:
Shine is that one song that goes completely over my head. I haven't understood the incredible praise it's received. |
Hi Luna, I do love Shine on you crazy diamond too to be honest but Echoes is my absolute choice no doubt, however to name another Floyd favorite to compare with Shine on it would be comfortably numb, shine on does not surpass Comfortable, that Gilmour solo kills me hugs
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Posted: September 22 2014 at 22:39 |
Shine on is a bunch of boring blues jams when compared to Echoes
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Kati
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Posted: September 22 2014 at 22:29 |
addictedtoprog wrote:
Just finished listening to Meddle and WYWH in entirety back to back. As always after finishing m thinking-which one is better.
During this particular listen i enjoyed 'SOYCD' a lot..maybe coz i played it today almost after an year..
For 'Echoes' i hav always felt it to be essential Pink Floyd and essential space rock..and i still play it at least once a week. Echoes |
addictedtoprog, my vote goes to Echoes, I love that spacy submarine radar plink plink sound going into the deep dark emptiness.
Funny thing about this track is that the band were at first not much impressed by it infact they named it at first'Nothing, Parts 1-24.' After later edits, the song was called 'Return of the Son of Nothing' before it received its final title.
I simply adore this song, every listen is aaahhh wow
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Posted: September 22 2014 at 21:56 |
addictedtoprog wrote:
Hercules wrote:
m2thek wrote:
I think the middle section of Echoes is pretty unnecessary. The parts around it are great, but it could easily be 5 minutes shorter.Shine On is just dripping with emotion all of the way through. The sense of loss, mourning, and emptiness is fantastic. I think the first half is nearly perfect, and while the second half isn't nearly as good as the first, the final section is one of the best sections of music they ever made. The two parts combined are far better than Echoes in just about every way. |
Of course it couldn't. The whole concept is about being underwater and that section is pivotal and, even though I generally don't like sound effects, that one works. |
For the underground part..
Not just works...its out-worldly great. |
In the beginning I didn't like that middle section either... I didn't particularly dislike it, but found it unessesary too. However, the rest of the song is so great that I always heard it complete anyway, and with time I have come to apreciate even that middle part and wouldn't have that song any other way. Besides, the comeback of the melody is such a high peak of the song, and without that atmospheric section and slow build up towards melody it wouldn't be nearly such a great moment. I had a very similar experience with Atom Heart Mother too. Now, I'm wondering if I really gave it a try, if something of the sort could happen with Tarkus, which has some really wonderful moments, but the middle section just ruins it for me (of course, the difference is that with Tarkus I do dislike the middle "Mass" section... a lot).
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