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If it's used as a tool to enhance a composition, that would be great. If the AI creates the music, I'm guessing it would lack emotion, feeling, etc. So far, I don't know for sure if it's been used by anyone.
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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

I used a fractal music generator twice back in 1999 and 2001 to generate short MIDI tracks. Not exactly AI, but both are just programming code underneath and nothing more. 

I haven't played around with any recent AI music generators and have little interest in them at the moment, but from what I've seen they seem suitable for television/internet commercials, soundtracks, and such. Much cheaper than paying for real music. They've probably already been used in pop music in the last 10-15 years, if not for ideas, then to generate parts of a song. 

Good composers will use it as just another tool in their toolkit. Not-so-good composers will probably use it without making any changes and pass it off as their own. C'est la vie.


Thanks, great answer! 

The late, great bassist for Starcastle, Gary Strater, released a cool solo CD called Eleven to the Fourth Twice, synthesized electronic ambient music based on fractal equations.   I hadn't made the connection of AI to fractal compositions, I know other prog musicians have dabbled in them. 

I went to the link I posted earlier & tried a few things....I like to play solo electric guitar (Fripp-style) over loops, so it gives me one more thing to fool around with.  

BTW, I once saw Mike Keneally solo on top of Fripp's Soundscapes in concert (opening for G3 in Chicago), it was sublime!  There are a few recordings available from DGM. 
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I used a fractal music generator twice back in 1999 and 2001 to generate short MIDI tracks. Not exactly AI, but both are just programming code underneath and nothing more. 

I haven't played around with any recent AI music generators and have little interest in them at the moment, but from what I've seen they seem suitable for television/internet commercials, soundtracks, and such. Much cheaper than paying for real music. They've probably already been used in pop music in the last 10-15 years, if not for ideas, then to generate parts of a song. 

Good composers will use it as just another tool in their toolkit. Not-so-good composers will probably use it without making any changes and pass it off as their own. C'est la vie.
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Could be an interesting tool for compositional enhancement--   not unlike what composers traditionally did for hundreds of years, which was to synthesize musical ideas & phrases that already existed into something new.
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I just searched online and found this:


Maybe AI will help our artists out with writing block??  
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Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

I thought that's what YES did for Mirror To The Sky.

Brutal!  :-)
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I thought that's what YES did for Mirror To The Sky.
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If they are not sure it would count as musical artistry.......
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I've seen some interesting artwork generated using AI tools, is anyone using A.I. to compose prog music?  
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