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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21816 |
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You just can't write a post without insulting a musician, can you?
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18643 |
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Hi, I learned in school/university a lesson that came from Castaneda. And it is basic physics. "Quality is inversely proportional to quantity" ... very simple. This was massive for "actors" in our theater program, learning to find a better, and less intrusive time in order to learn their lines for a scene, or a play. Taking this further, it taught me to LISTEN ... and that meant that I could hear it just once IN ITS ENTIRETY (not just needle and peck!) ... and learn/read what the sleeve said and look at the lyrics if available. I rarely had to listen to any album a 2nd or 3rd time, unless it was one of those ... wow albums ... AD2's Wolf City got worn out on the turntable and I had to get a 2nd copy! Listening "repeatedly" for me, is, often, counter productive, IF, we are "not sure" what we want to hear, or what we are "expecting" to hear, since it will only help spread those out even further. IF, that happens to me, I sit the album down for a week or two and listen to it later, although I can not even tell you which album that happened to for me in 40 plus years. Actually there was one, and it was Tangerine Dream when I got introduced to "Mysterious Semblance ... " and it scared me and I went back to my headphones and listen to Hawkwind! And it took me 2 days, before I could listen to it again, and since then, it is by very far one of the prettiest things I have ever heard in my life, right next to Fairport Convention's Reynardine with the incredible voice of Sandy Denny. In the end, for me, it is about staying tuned (sorry radio term), and making sure you can hear it ... and when you do, it normally sets in, unless you do what I call the cardinal sin of listening ...immediately you go "this sounds like ELP", or "this sounds like Ruckamuck", and right away you lose the ability to objectively decipher and interpret the music you are "listening", which in plain terms, it would be considered, not listening, since your attention is side tracked from the music itself. But there are things that take me a while to get into ... weirdly enough, it took me 3 seconds and Peter Hammill/VdGG were ready for me, but it took me over a year for Gentle Giant to sync in until I found the incredible musicianship involved and their playful ability with it. For me, few bands, have that kind of musical talent that GG showed ... specially with really difficult material instead of the simplistic one note, or one riff sounding and formatted music that we listen to these days!
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21816 |
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^ Understood!
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I prophesy disaster ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 31 2017 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 5001 |
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^ I was speaking somewhat figuratively, though. It means that I'm not really looking for new music and don't do the things that people who are actually seeking new music do. It means that I might spend months without getting any new music. And I'm not even sampling new music unless there is some expectation of maybe getting it. It is a different mindset to those who are seeking new music or sampling lots of different music.
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No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21816 |
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^ It's a bit naive though. No new music finds you if you just sit on the sofa and do nothing. It's always an active process, in his case frequenting places where you get exposed to (people discussing) new music.
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b_olariu ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: March 02 2007 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 5536 |
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[QUOTE=I prophesy disaster]I don't seek new releases, preferring to allow music to find me, regardless of when it was released. Much music that finds me comes to me via this site, or via YouTube, Bandcamp, or some other way.
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21816 |
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^ A hundred albums simultaneously? Seriously, like I said, this year I listened to more than a hundred new releases sequentially (like, 1-2 per day). It's REALLY hard to remember the music I've listened to. If I wasn't taking notes (in the form of ratings, tags and reviews) I wouldn't know how to describe the albums I listened to in February. It's really hard to keep the impressions separate between the releases.
Maybe I was better at this when I was young(er), but even as a teenager I don't think I could have listened to more than a couple of new albums per day and remember them in a meaningful way. The only reliable way to do that is to listen to them repeatedly over the course of days or weeks. So even with a few hours each day available for listening, realistically we humans can probably "absorb" 3-5 releases per week.
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progaardvark ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover/Symphonic/RPI Teams Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Sea of Peas Status: Offline Points: 53656 |
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If we could be like Data, we could listen to hundreds, maybe thousands, of albums simultaneously. That would be cool. I need to upgrade my brain to a positronic one. The current one is having problems understanding recliners and vacuum cleaners.
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21816 |
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Today, depending on where you live, it is much easier to listen to new music. When I started to listen to music in 1985 I had to make do with what the local record store had to offer. Now I have a Spotify subscription, there's Bandcamp, and I can listen to 50k releases instantaneously. The problem of course is time. We can't all listen to everything, so we all have to specialize. My current strategy is to listen to a lot of new music that is being released right now. And it's exciting! At least to me. I've listened to more than 100 new releases of 2023, some really popular artists, others really obscure. And the journey continues ...
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Prog-jester ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 05 2005 Location: Love Beach Status: Offline Points: 5930 |
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weekly AOTY charts and RYM
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Hiram ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 30 2009 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 2084 |
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Pretty much this. Meaning, to me, that I don't actively look for new stuff but rather come across it. Works fine for me and I don't feel I'm missing anything. But to each their own of course.
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Stressed Cheese ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 16 2022 Location: The Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 540 |
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But I do check as many "corners" as I can. It's just that I don't really care if I miss anything, since there's way too much to ever check out in a lifetime anyway, and I just have a higher success-rate with older music.
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18643 |
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Hi, That is easy to do, but, when it comes to the arts, it is difficult to think that nothing happens today, when the history shows us that it (basically) happens every day forever. HOWEVER, it is easy to "bypass" today, when the controls are so corporate related and the music is so formatted and almost the same. But the minute you think that nothing is worth it, something is over there in the corner, that you will miss.
It's probably really easy to suggest that there isn't a whole lot more to find in those days ... and with today's ability to get everything seen and shown and we're finding bands that we did not even know that they existed, it might be almost like we don't need to look anymore. We were "there" from 1972 on, and from what we could see and know from the "imports" area of things and the stuff released in the USA, that we had a fairly good handle on what we thought was probably 80% of all the stuff ... and now, with all these bands that we "found" that we never knew, that number has dropped to about 60%. (... the numbers are somewhat generalized!) It is even easier to concern oneself with today's work a lot more, and I think that is a great thing, although I'm one to think that the past is not meant to be forgotten, or that it had nothing to show us ... and that is not the case at all ... specially when we tend to mention only 4 or 5 bands, instead of a wider, world wide, sampling. And that might just be one of the greater issues with "progressive" music and its definitions and average discussion and consumption.
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 19331 |
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It's easy to find new music and it's easy to find the classic 70s stuff. The challenge and more interesting part is finding stuff you don't know from in between the two eras. I look on the main page and I mostly see reviews for brand new stuff (or maybe one year old) or really old classic stuff most everyone knows. There's a lot in between that has fallen through the cracks over the years.
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Lofty ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: June 15 2023 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 18 |
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Thank you for all the helpful responses! Personally I used to have a subscription to Prog Magazine and got a lot of recommendations from that. I try to keep up with the various new reviews coming out of Sea of Tranquility and on here too. It can be hard to keep track at times especially with all the off-shot bands, solo projects and different incarnations of established bands.
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Awesoreno ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 07 2019 Location: Culver City, CA Status: Offline Points: 3115 |
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^^And for me, it's both! How amazing that we can all have different ways of exploring an art form.
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21816 |
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^ It’s the opposite for me. I’m basically done with exploring the classic era. There’ll always be albums from the past that I’ll discover and like, but my focus is on artists that are publishing music right in the here and now …
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Jared ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 06 2005 Location: Hereford, UK Status: Offline Points: 20761 |
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Stressed Cheese ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 16 2022 Location: The Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 540 |
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I honestly have way too many albums/artist from the good old days (60's/70's/80's) that I have yet to buy/listen to/get into/discover, so I don't tend to get too bothered by the fact that 99.9% of what's going on is passing me by. PA and RYM have lately been the main place I (accidentally) discovered new music, but even then, I tend to only like a small percentage of what's coming out today, and even if I like it, it's often not a priority over older crap.
To himself, presumably.
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21816 |
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^ who are you talking to?
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