The Rush appreciation thread

Sacro_Porgo wrote: verslibre wrote: Sacro_Porgo wrote: I've never read much about Neil being a massive Carl Palmer fan. Moreso than anyone else I've heard him mention really loving Keith Moon, and later on Buddy Rich. Now I can definitely hear things that Palmer did which Neil would go on to use, but as far as being a massive influence or inspiration to Neil as a drummer I don't think he held anyone in higher regard than Moon when he first started playing with Rush. I have a memory of him mentioning lifting a particular drum fill on the Hold Your Fire album from Phil Collins, and I seem to recall him being really interested in learning from Steward Copeland's approach when The Police first hit. He's also mentioned getting inspiration from joining drum circles on a bike ride through Africa. I guess my point is Neil took a lot of ideas from a lot of different drummers and used them to create and develop his own style. I don't think he owes Carl Palmer any more credit than Stewart Copeland. As most musicians do. Speaking of Phil Collins, I think you all will like this entry from Neil's old column. What a wonderful read! He was always such a great writer as well...

verslibre wrote: Catcher10 wrote: verslibre wrote: Catcher10 wrote: I'm a big Stewart Copeland fan I think his style and composition is amazing, he is very musical. It was never a surprise to me when Neil mentions him as an inspiration. Ditto. I love his film scores, some of which he rearranged and released along with original material on his 1988 solo album The Equalizer & Other Cliff Hangers. Oh agree!! I love watching his stuff on YT in his home studio, he is such a hyper guy in interviews.  Did you ever see the episode of Storage Wars where Barry Weiss goes to Stewart's home to ask a rather opportunistic favor of him?  Unfortunately, the clip isn't on YouTube, and AETV wants you to register to watch it, but Barry "scores" a vintage Ludwig kit from a storage locker and takes it to Stewart, who immediately talks him out of the Zildjian ride cymbal for $40. After that, Barry asks Stew to sign AND date each piece of hardware so he can flip the kit!

Catcher10 wrote: verslibre wrote: Catcher10 wrote: I'm a big Stewart Copeland fan I think his style and composition is amazing, he is very musical. It was never a surprise to me when Neil mentions him as an inspiration. Ditto. I love his film scores, some of which he rearranged and released along with original material on his 1988 solo album The Equalizer & Other Cliff Hangers. Oh agree!! I love watching his stuff on YT in his home studio, he is such a hyper guy in interviews.

verslibre wrote: Sacro_Porgo wrote: I've never read much about Neil being a massive Carl Palmer fan. Moreso than anyone else I've heard him mention really loving Keith Moon, and later on Buddy Rich. Now I can definitely hear things that Palmer did which Neil would go on to use, but as far as being a massive influence or inspiration to Neil as a drummer I don't think he held anyone in higher regard than Moon when he first started playing with Rush. I have a memory of him mentioning lifting a particular drum fill on the Hold Your Fire album from Phil Collins, and I seem to recall him being really interested in learning from Steward Copeland's approach when The Police first hit. He's also mentioned getting inspiration from joining drum circles on a bike ride through Africa. I guess my point is Neil took a lot of ideas from a lot of different drummers and used them to create and develop his own style. I don't think he owes Carl Palmer any more credit than Stewart Copeland. As most musicians do. Speaking of Phil Collins, I think you all will like this entry from Neil's old column.

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: ^That doesn't surprise me. Copeland played with traditional grip as opposed to Neil's matched grip. Neil swtiched it up later and played both ways but that was more because of Freddie Gruber's influence than Stewart's. Stewart was probably one of the best traditional grip drummers in rock though(over all).

^That doesn't surprise me. Copeland played with traditional grip as opposed to Neil's matched grip. Neil swtiched it up later and played both ways but that was more because of Freddie Gruber's influence than Stewart's. Stewart was probably one of the best traditional grip drummers in rock though(over all). 

Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - January 02 2021 at 10:31

Sacro_Porgo wrote: I've never read much about Neil being a massive Carl Palmer fan. Moreso than anyone else I've heard him mention really loving Keith Moon, and later on Buddy Rich. Now I can definitely hear things that Palmer did which Neil would go on to use, but as far as being a massive influence or inspiration to Neil as a drummer I don't think he held anyone in higher regard than Moon when he first started playing with Rush. I have a memory of him mentioning lifting a particular drum fill on the Hold Your Fire album from Phil Collins, and I seem to recall him being really interested in learning from Steward Copeland's approach when The Police first hit. He's also mentioned getting inspiration from joining drum circles on a bike ride through Africa. I guess my point is Neil took a lot of ideas from a lot of different drummers and used them to create and develop his own style. I don't think he owes Carl Palmer any more credit than Stewart Copeland.

I've never read much about Neil being a massive Carl Palmer fan. Moreso than anyone else I've heard him mention really loving Keith Moon, and later on Buddy Rich. Now I can definitely hear things that Palmer did which Neil would go on to use, but as far as being a massive influence or inspiration to Neil as a drummer I don't think he held anyone in higher regard than Moon when he first started playing with Rush. I have a memory of him mentioning lifting a particular drum fill on the Hold Your Fire album from Phil Collins, and I seem to recall him being really interested in learning from Steward Copeland's approach when The Police first hit. He's also mentioned getting inspiration from joining drum circles on a bike ride through Africa. I guess my point is Neil took a lot of ideas from a lot of different drummers and used them to create and develop his own style. I don't think he owes Carl Palmer any more credit than Stewart Copeland.

verslibre wrote: When it comes to Neil, Carl usually gets referenced. He deserves to be referenced a lot more than Moon, that's for certain.