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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

What about all those high ratings for the first Modern Rock Ensemble album that happened around the same time? It reminds me of what I've seen on amazon. It's hard for me to think these people really like that album and weren't just paid by the band to review it with a  high rating especially when some never rated anything before or since.

You noticed that too.  
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Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Sometimes it comes in strange ways, this user gave two 5 star DT reviews to their two albums in the top 50, while 1 staring every album in close proximity in direct succession:

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=73747

I know there isn't much to work with here, but it's pretty strange

I don't know if it's abuse but it's definitely strange. 
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Sometimes it comes in strange ways, this user gave two 5 star DT reviews to their two albums in the top 50, while 1 staring every album in close proximity in direct succession:

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=73747

I know there isn't much to work with here, but it's pretty strange
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

What about all those high ratings for the first Modern Rock Ensemble album that happened around the same time? It reminds me of what I've seen on amazon. It's hard for me to think these people really like that album and weren't just paid by the band to review it with a  high rating especially when some never rated anything before or since.


I'm wondering if the ratings feature should be restricted to maybe Forum Senior Members and higher?

I.E. make it an earned privilege, not an automatic right of membership... tho that could be dependent on whether the forum software would allow it.


Edited by Progishness - June 10 2021 at 10:49
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What about all those high ratings for the first Modern Rock Ensemble album that happened around the same time? It reminds me of what I've seen on amazon. It's hard for me to think these people really like that album and weren't just paid by the band to review it with a  high rating especially when some never rated anything before or since.
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When someone has 95 percent of their ratings at 5 stars, the other 5 percent are 4 star, and suddenly comes along a couple of hours after an artist is added to drop 1 star ratings on them...that's just being a dick. Not sure what perspective that could be seen in any other light.

I don't think it has the scope to constitute abuse. We are generally looking for larger scale 5's and 1's. Whole genres and mammoth discographies.

Bringing into focus the reason I would rather review-less ratings not count in the artists score. But that's not for me to decide. 


Edited by Tapfret - May 16 2021 at 21:49

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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Everybody has the right to review/rate an album.


Yeah but some people simply sweep rate an artist without actually listening to all the albums. Not sure what qualifies as rating abuse or not but i definitely don't mind shining a light on it.

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I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Everybody has the right to review/rate an album.
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Of course, but this repeat issue of fans regularly partaking in rating abuse to gouge the progarchives score is really baffling and bizarre to me. Anytime I see one of those Karfagen reviews start with "Antony has done it again...." I immediately don't take it seriously.
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Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

^ I can get behind this. Why can't Karfagen fans handle themselves? Of all the bands you can choose to worship and love dearly, they settle with the most middling and offensively bland modern prog act currently walking the earth.


Let me remind you that it's simply an opinion. ;p
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^ I can get behind this. Why can't Karfagen fans handle themselves? Of all the bands you can choose to worship and love dearly, they settle with the most middling and offensively bland modern prog act currently walking the earth.
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It's interesting because Karfagen and Kalugin should have their pages moved to the Regressive Rock Archives. Wink
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Hmmm... this is rather suspicious.

5 star sweep for Karfagen and a few other artist and then a 1 star bomb drop for all of Mira Snelder's albums all tonight just after artist was added.

Oh since i first posted this a few minutes ago, the second album was changed to 2 stars.



Edited by siLLy puPPy - May 15 2021 at 21:28

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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Oops! I forgot, you’re not the Messiah - just a very naughty boy....

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Oops! I forgot, you’re not the Messiah - just a very naughty boy....
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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by Christi Christi wrote:

It's weird, but then again someone just said the other day in a Pink Floyd thread that he thought A Momentary lapse of Reason is a better album than Dark Side of the Moon. Confused

That may have been me, although I definitely would never have used the word better, unless I said I liked it better. Objectively, I’m sure DSotM is a better album that AMLoR but subjectively when it comes to which album I prefer, I certainly like AMLoR considerably more than I do DSotM. In fact, there are almost more Pink Floyd albums I like more than DSoTM, than those I don’t.

But I would still give DSotM a 4/5 rating on PA, even if it’s only a 2/3 for me personally....

I don't know who this Christi guy is but i agree with him. LOL
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Originally posted by Christi Christi wrote:

It's weird, but then again someone just said the other day in a Pink Floyd thread that he thought A Momentary lapse of Reason is a better album than Dark Side of the Moon. Confused

That may have been me, although I definitely would never have used the word better, unless I said I liked it better. Objectively, I’m sure DSotM is a better album that AMLoR but subjectively when it comes to which album I prefer, I certainly like AMLoR considerably more than I do DSotM. In fact, there are almost more Pink Floyd albums I like more than DSoTM, than those I don’t.

But I would still give DSotM a 4/5 rating on PA, even if it’s only a 2/3 for me personally....
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Pretty obvious rating abuse going on, all it takes is a single one star review bomb to set them back a bit LOLEmbarrassed
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Two more five stars added to Night Dreams & Wishes in the last three days--one every 36 hours--the ratings average just keeps on rising. 

It'll be a long haul, but, at this rate, it will over take Resistance in about 30 days--sooner if reviews are also posted.
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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:


and I nominate a second nuke for those who complain about ratings abuse ...Beer

if this site had listened to me (aka Tsar Bomba) years ago..and just obliterated ratings altogehter..   there would be no nukes today.. only naked women, loud geetars, cheap dope American craft beer...

and good reviewers.. who write about albums.. not rate them

I missed that discussion! Something to think about--something I'd never considered. 

I would miss the lists. (It's just part of the way I'm wired:  Lists are everywhere in my life. Got it from my mom, grandfather, and great-grandfather. A long family tradition of list makers.)

But the absence of ratings . . . intriguing!
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