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Poll Question: Which band(s) do you like the best?
Poll Choice Votes Poll Statistics
8 [5.71%]
5 [3.57%]
7 [5.00%]
16 [11.43%]
3 [2.14%]
7 [5.00%]
7 [5.00%]
4 [2.86%]
9 [6.43%]
4 [2.86%]
1 [0.71%]
4 [2.86%]
5 [3.57%]
3 [2.14%]
2 [1.43%]
2 [1.43%]
2 [1.43%]
3 [2.14%]
10 [7.14%]
6 [4.29%]
1 [0.71%]
6 [4.29%]
17 [12.14%]
5 [3.57%]
3 [2.14%]
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Progosopher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2023 at 18:36
I like most of these bands. Ying Yang Votes went to Eloy and Magma from the list. First vote for Other: Jade Warrior.
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I first heard of Gentle Giant around the mid-to-late '90s, about the same time I first heard of the terms "Art-Rock" and "Progressive-Rock". These were from the same source (Gentle Giant are an Art-Rock/Progressive-Rock group).
 
As for Mike Oldfield, my first exposure was at school during music class when the teacher played "Tubular Bells" to us. This was around the time of its release.
 

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^Different bands and artists are popular in different locations. GG were never huge in the US but they did have a strong following and a few of their albums made it to the top 100 charts. Mike Oldfield was mentioned earlier. He's someone who was never very big in the US but was in other countries. He only had one gold album over here (no extra points for guessing which one). In the US most people other than prog fans and people really into and knowledgable about music probably never even heard of him. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2023 at 16:05
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Wow, everyone is on the board and no votes for other. This is a first. I'm kind of surprised there aren't more votes for Gentle Giant.

I don't know anyone personally who's heard of Gentle Giant. If I ask them if they like Gentle Giant, they assume I'm asking if they like sweetcorn. Tongue

Well, you live in the UK and apparently they were never very big over there. PA has members from all over though.

I hadn't heard of them either until the internet came along and then you couldn't stop people talking about them! I bought my first GG album about 20 years ago and that was about 25 years after I had acquired my first prog album!!
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Wow, everyone is on the board and no votes for other. This is a first. I'm kind of surprised there aren't more votes for Gentle Giant.

I don't know anyone personally who's heard of Gentle Giant. If I ask them if they like Gentle Giant, they assume I'm asking if they like sweetcorn. Tongue

Well, you live in the UK and apparently they were never very big over there. PA has members from all over though.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Wow, everyone is on the board and no votes for other. This is a first. I'm kind of surprised there aren't more votes for Gentle Giant.

I don't know anyone personally who's heard of Gentle Giant. If I ask them if they like Gentle Giant, they assume I'm asking if they like sweetcorn. Tongue


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

That sounds about right. My two younger brothers have both heard of Mike Oldfield
Tubular Bells alone has sold over 18 million copies. He's huge. Only bands such as Eagles, Zeppelin, Beatles, Floyd... can match numbers like that.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2023 at 11:33
Wow, everyone is on the board and no votes for other. This is a first. I'm kind of surprised there aren't more votes for Gentle Giant.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

Just about all of them, really.
But Camel is the most obvious choice. Ironically, I find nearly everyone who hears them (and that includes anyone I've ever had contact with) becomes a fan, but they didn't fit the classic mould (no charismatic front man/lead singer) and largely instrumental, so they didn't get exposed to the wider audience outside prog.


Not sure about this, in the UK at that time Oldfield, Wakeman and Vangelis were selling tons and were well known outside of prog circles. The Snow Goose was next off the line and did well sales wise at least. (Peaked at No 22 and was certified Silver, didn't do so well in the US though only peaking at 162)


That sounds about right. My two younger brothers have both heard of Mike Oldfield, Vangelis and Rick Wakeman, but they haven't heard of any of the prog bands in this poll, including Camel. Confused
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Camel, Eloy, Renaissance

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Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

Just about all of them, really.
But Camel is the most obvious choice. Ironically, I find nearly everyone who hears them (and that includes anyone I've ever had contact with) becomes a fan, but they didn't fit the classic mould (no charismatic front man/lead singer) and largely instrumental, so they didn't get exposed to the wider audience outside prog.


Not sure about this, in the UK at that time Oldfield, Wakeman and Vangelis were selling tons and were well known outside of prog circles. The Snow Goose was next off the line and did well sales wise at least. (Peaked at No 22 and was certified Silver, didn't do so well in the US though only peaking at 162)


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2023 at 08:12
Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

you've listed a whole raft of my fave bands up there, so it's exceedingly difficult to pick (I could easily have gone for 10 of them).... but I'll choose Eloy, 'cos I love 'em... 

we can choose up to three. Smile

thank you Sir.... I knew I could rely on you to have actually read the guidelines properly... Big smile


we also chose the same bands. LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jared Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2023 at 08:10
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

you've listed a whole raft of my fave bands up there, so it's exceedingly difficult to pick (I could easily have gone for 10 of them).... but I'll choose Eloy, 'cos I love 'em... 

we can choose up to three. Smile

thank you Sir.... I knew I could rely on you to have actually read the guidelines properly... Big smile

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2023 at 08:08
Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

you've listed a whole raft of my fave bands up there, so it's exceedingly difficult to pick (I could easily have gone for 10 of them).... but I'll choose Eloy, 'cos I love 'em... 

we can choose up to three. Smile
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you've listed a whole raft of my fave bands up there, so it's exceedingly difficult to pick (I could easily have gone for 10 of them).... but I'll choose Eloy, 'cos I love 'em... 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hrychu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2023 at 05:19
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I started this poll because I always found it interesting how a band could be so talented and so popular among prog fans yet unheard of by most non-prog fans. King Crimson, Marillion and Porcupine Tree sort of occupy the grey area but I felt they were too well known among most regular music fans to include them. You can say most of these are the next level down. I suppose there are non prog fans who know about Renaissance, Gong, Magma, Ozric Tentacles, Camel, VDGG and GG too but not as much as the others I mentioned here.


Invisible (L.A. Spinetta's band) is not very well known to non-proggers outside of South America, but in the prog circles, the group seems to be quite recognizable worldwide.

They have an album that is rated pretty highly on rate your music but I don't think they are that well known in prog circles. There's probably at least half a dozen more well known S.A. prog bands including Bubu and Bacamarte. I would say Nexus also.


That's only my subjective impression. I'm sorry. Everyone makes mistakes. For instance, in Poland, Invisible and Spinetta in general are pretty much completely unheard of, in all circles imaginable, which is a shame IMO. My compatriots are really missing out on a lot of heart-tugging music. I don't even know if Bubu or Bacamarte are familiar to Poles either.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I started this poll because I always found it interesting how a band could be so talented and so popular among prog fans yet unheard of by most non-prog fans. King Crimson, Marillion and Porcupine Tree sort of occupy the grey area but I felt they were too well known among most regular music fans to include them. You can say most of these are the next level down. I suppose there are non prog fans who know about Renaissance, Gong, Magma, Ozric Tentacles, Camel, VDGG and GG too but not as much as the others I mentioned here.

I got to know the Ozrics from a non-prog fan. I think they are well known in a certain different corner of the universe where people like anarchy and improvisation (psychedelic stuff generally but also newer jazz; Can are well appreciated there, too) but wouldn't relate to more "organised" symphonic prog and the like, and neither to the showing off of virtuosity and complexity as happens in math rock, some RIO, and many varieties of prog metal.

I remember also that in the eighties Peter Hammill and VDGG were well appreciated among many fans of post punk and the more sophisticated music of the time; they were seen as much less outdated than ELP, Yes and others.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hercules Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2023 at 03:55
Just about all of them, really.
But Camel is the most obvious choice. Ironically, I find nearly everyone who hears them (and that includes anyone I've ever had contact with) becomes a fan, but they didn't fit the classic mould (no charismatic front man/lead singer) and largely instrumental, so they didn't get exposed to the wider audience outside prog.

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