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Just answered a mail from the Band Submission Team after listening carefully their "masterpiece" "Mew and the Glass Handed Kites.
 
I'm not inpressed at all, I can't find a Prog connection, not even to Prog Related, they don't even sound original, several alternative bands have done a lot of the same before with less POP elements.
 
IMHO they are less Prog Related than Coldplay who are not Prog Related. I agree with Raffaella, not by dream Art Rock, but I would be more radical, neither in Prog Related without any doubt
 
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Originally posted by Moatilliatta Moatilliatta wrote:

Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

OK, I listened to "And the Glass-Handed Kites", and unfortunately for you Mew fans I was not impressed at all. I found the album extremely heavy going and only very slightly related with prog. Consequently, Art Rock is out of the question - Prog-Related maybe, but I'd hesitate to put them there either. There have been too many controversial additions so far, and I'd rather concentrate on adding real prog bands - there are many that are still out of our database.
 
You ought to listen to it a few more times. As many good albums, it takes more than a couple of listens to manifest it's greatness. You'll notice many more subtleties if you try a few more lsitens. There are a lot of polyrhythms, great atmospheres and harmonies, and the whole thing is continuous as if it were one piece, though it really is not.


Yes there is, but not so much, or so comprehensively. It isn't progressive, but has some progressiviness. So to Prog-Related, maybe.

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Points: 3083 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2007 at 20:02
Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

OK, I listened to "And the Glass-Handed Kites", and unfortunately for you Mew fans I was not impressed at all. I found the album extremely heavy going and only very slightly related with prog. Consequently, Art Rock is out of the question - Prog-Related maybe, but I'd hesitate to put them there either. There have been too many controversial additions so far, and I'd rather concentrate on adding real prog bands - there are many that are still out of our database.
 
You ought to listen to it a few more times. As many good albums, it takes more than a couple of listens to manifest it's greatness. You'll notice many more subtleties if you try a few more lsitens. There are a lot of polyrhythms, great atmospheres and harmonies, and the whole thing is continuous as if it were one piece, though it really is not.
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OK, I listened to "And the Glass-Handed Kites", and unfortunately for you Mew fans I was not impressed at all. I found the album extremely heavy going and only very slightly related with prog. Consequently, Art Rock is out of the question - Prog-Related maybe, but I'd hesitate to put them there either. There have been too many controversial additions so far, and I'd rather concentrate on adding real prog bands - there are many that are still out of our database.
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yes, not to artrock - i don't want it to be spoiled with semi-prog.
 
Yes, to prog related. Although, the name prog related reminds me of like it... well, maybe Proggish or Rather progressive or something else would be good name to that "genre".. (i don't know how strong word "rather" is, but something like that..)
 
yes, prog related tells me that those bands have for example mellotrons etc.
But it's very big genre , there's metal, post-rock, gay rock...

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^Yes, on AtGHK, but they have three more albums which are not as complex. We do have to take future releases into account though, they might go completely Prog.

Prog Related is perfect at the moment, no more and no less.
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I think their music is far more complex than just prog related.
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Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

EDIT - (even though I shouldn't) I am now listening to their albums over again. And my conclusion would be Prog-Related.
Sorry Phileas, I see what you mean, but the overall impression I get fomr this is more of a rock outfit with other than usual characteristics, but in general the overall sound reminds me of other rock bands. They do bear some more sophisticated/complex parts in their songs, but it is not the dominant trait of their music. I think they fit prog-related due to this. (which is for the admins to decide).


No need to be sorry, Prog Related would fit them better. I took time to examine their music more closely, and as a result I agree with you. Smile

So anyway, they really ought to be included as Prog Related.
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OK, we can go about it in two ways.. Either you wait for me (or rather us..) to come back from the holidays and judge the band for ourselves, or one of you asks the Admin team to be allowed to add them to Prog-Related. However, as concerns the latter move, I don't know whether it is sensible to continue adding bands that may stir up further controversy. I leave the decision up to you.
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I have those albums:
A Triumph for Man
Half the World Is Watching Me
Frengers
And the Glass Handed Kites

And solely based on Glass, I would be inclined to add them to Art-Rock.
However the other albums, they do not make to me a strong case for addition. Good and nice rock, but not more. This is why I don't like the tagging of a band and not albums... we lose so much precision this way.

EDIT - (even though I shouldn't) I am now listening to their albums over again. And my conclusion would be Prog-Related.
Sorry Phileas, I see what you mean, but the overall impression I get fomr this is more of a rock outfit with other than usual characteristics, but in general the overall sound reminds me of other rock bands. They do bear some more sophisticated/complex parts in their songs, but it is not the dominant trait of their music. I think they fit prog-related due to this. (which is for the admins to decide).

Just my thoughts, not meaning to offend the fans (I love the music as well, otherwise I wouldn't bother with their albums).



    
    

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I'm looking forward to hear what you think of them. Prog Related would be sufficient if they don't meet the Art Rock criteria in your opinion, but I hope that you recognize their Prog qualities.
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Points: 24440 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 18 2006 at 10:05
Thanks a lot, Philéas!Thumbs Up Unfortunately, this will have to wait for some time, as I will be away for the holidays. However, I promise I'll do that ASAP when I get back.
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Art Rock Team: You can check out their official site, there are some songs avaliable for streaming. It would be even better if you got hold of the album And the Glass Handed Kites, and gave it a thorough listen or two, to get the complete picture, so to speak.


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Originally posted by Philéas Philéas wrote:

^Art Rock, not Prog Related. Having Pure Reason Revolution in Art Rock and Mew in Prog Related wouldn't make sense.
Exactly, I totally agree. They would fit well in art rock, but i won't complain if they're only prog related
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Points: 24440 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2006 at 13:41
The Art Rock team members (or rather, one half of the team... yours truly) would be interested in hearing something from this band. However, please remember that Art Rock is 100% Prog, and not a section for 'semi-prog' acts. 
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Points: 9008 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2006 at 16:34
Well then send a PM to the Art rock team members instead.

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^Art Rock, not Prog Related. Having Pure Reason Revolution in Art Rock and Mew in Prog Related wouldn't make sense.
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Points: 9008 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2006 at 12:24
^^ The Admin team is responsable for additions to the proto prog and prog related bands. I recommend you PM one of the Admins about the bands so it'll be more direct and personal. Keep PM them once a week if you'd like to ask them how's the addition coming along.

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Points: 6419 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2006 at 11:44
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Mew are on the list of bands to be discussed for possible inclusion.


Any progress on this at all? Ermm
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