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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote projeKct Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 17 2021 at 08:07
^ I think the best way is to add the album like you usually do. Then, if something goes wrong with special characters, you (or I) can use the admin panel to correct errors.

Or even better: you can add the album using the admin panel.

Want to try? Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote siLLy puPPy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 17 2021 at 07:22
How does one possibly add albums in a foreign script? It appears that many common languages are simply transliterated into English spelling but what about languages like Coptic?

For example, this Current 93 album is missing from the queue and both artist and album title are in Coptic.

Ⲁⲛⲟⲕ Ⲟⲩϫⲟⲓ Ⲉϥⲕⲏⲙ Ⲡⲉ < aria-label="album shortcut" ="album_shortcut" readonly="readonly" value="Album601830">
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ArtistⲠϣⲟⲩⲟ Ⲛⲙⲉϩϥ̅ⲅ̅
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote yam yam Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2021 at 21:57
^ Lol! Thanks Greg! Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2021 at 21:52
That Billy Boy entry has been Billy Abolished.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote yam yam Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2021 at 21:36
^ Lol! I haven't added any wax cylinders, but I have accidentally added 'Billy Boy' again.  The 'submittitle' page had been open in my browser for a few hours, and when I clicked the "Add more albums from this band now" so that I could add the 'Old King Coal' cassette release, the page said that it needed to be refreshed before I was able to proceed further. I did this, and duly added the 'Old King Coal' release, but when I checked to see that the addition had gone okay, I was horrified to find that another entry for 'Billy Boy' had appeared there as well. Ouch When I refreshed the page it must have re-sent the info I had typed in for the previous addition I'd made. It seems I'm not very good at this album addition lark lol! Every one I've done so far has gone wrong in some way or other!

So I'm very sorry for duplicating 'Billy Boy', and could you please ask admins to delete it? Embarrassed

I'll attempt the last two Grace releases tomorrow.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NotAProghead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2021 at 20:42
^ Yes, we're lizard kings, we can add everything, including wax cylinders. Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote yam yam Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2021 at 13:44
^ Thanks Eugene. Are we allowed to add cassette releases too - such as this one from 1992 - all profits from which went to the aid of the communities affected by the closure of the pits in the area around the band's home town of Stoke-on-Trent back in the early 1990s?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NotAProghead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2021 at 13:32
^ Thanks, David, I've made all changes you suggested.

Regarding 7''-singles I prefer (in general, not only in Grace case) to have both A and B sides in the title. Because most often A-sides are album tracks while B-sides not. In our days B-sides are more interesting then "main courses".
Additionaly, popular bands had different editions of their hits backed with different tracks, it's more convenient to have both tracks in the title.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote yam yam Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2021 at 12:19
^ Three singles done.
Old Stories - Brittania would appear to anyone viewing the page that it is spelt incorrectly (correct spelling is Britannia). However, this is exactly how it appears on the disc label, so I have left it as it is.

Fire of London - discogs and RYM both have the title as "Fire of London / Beatnik" (or incorrectly as "Fire Of London / Beatnic" in the discogs heading for the single - thought they've got it right in the actual track listing), but the sleeve it came in only says "Fire of London" on the front, so that is how I've added it (please alter if you feel that both titles should be included). The back of the sleeve lists Beatnik as side B, so its not really a double A single imho. The back of the sleeve also has the full list of musicians and the instruments they played, so all we are missing for this one are the timings, though if you want to add the time for 'Fire of London' on its own then it's on YouTube (duration about 4:12).

Edit: ^ Same with Billy Boy - I've only included the song written on the front of the sleeve in the title, though RYM and discogs both list it as "Billy Boy / Ad-Mad". Please alter if you feel this is preferable. The back of the sleeve actually says "Billy Boy c/w Ad-Mad", if that's any help. See http://www.45cat.com/record/mca667.

Edit 2: It seems that 'Fire of London' was also released by MCA Australia (MCA 1671) in March 1981, I didn't include that in the releases information for this single. EmbarrassedSee http://www.45cat.com/record/mca1671 (though neither discogs or RYM mention this additional release).


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote yam yam Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2021 at 06:54
^ Thanks Julien - I'll try to take a bit more care with the singles and EPs! Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote projeKct Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2021 at 06:34
^ Just made those little corrections, thanks. Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote yam yam Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2021 at 17:52
First one hasn't gone well. It looks like I left a blank line above the text I entered for all three headings. Ouch

Edit: Second one seems to be OK apart from having unnecessary dots after the U and K in UK (releases information section). I copied that line direct from the Bomark page, and never noticed those dots when I edited it slightly. When you get rid of the unwanted white space for that first DVD I added, maybe you could also add England, UK after the name of the venue (Penkhull Village Hall) where that one was recorded too? Embarrassed


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote yam yam Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2021 at 12:22
Thanks Eugene. I'll have a go at it later tonight. There are also six singles and EPs listed for the band on discogs which we don't have on our site at the moment, so I'll see what I can find about them, and hopefully add those as well. Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NotAProghead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2021 at 11:33
^ Thanks, David, I think you may add DVDs with available info. If new details will follow, we'll correct info.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote yam yam Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2021 at 19:16
^ The 2017 release isn't entirely precise regarding the track running order (the Bomark page for it just says "set list includes"...though it's highly likely that the list of songs will be complete, and in the true running order), and both state "over 100 minutes of film footage" rather than an exact duration, but if you're happy for them to be added with the info that we currently have available, then I'll do it. Smile If Mac replies to my message then I'll try and get more details from him, but it doesn't look at the moment as though he's going to respond. He's been on facebook earlier this afternoon, but made no attempt to look at my message unfortunately. I'll try an old email address that I have for him if I don't hear anything by the end of the weekend, and hope that it gets redirected to his current one.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NotAProghead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2021 at 12:35
^ Thanks, David, corrected "Overdose" titles and timings as you suggested.

I see nothing scaring in DVDs' info - the pages have covers, track lists and total times. Enough for the additions, we may write that "The actual instrumentation could not be fully confirmed at this moment".
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote yam yam Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2021 at 22:01
^ There is some more confusion on the Internet regarding the track list of the 'Overdose' album too. We have track 5 as "Into the Night", whereas all the streaming platforms (Spotify, Deezer, YouTube Music etc) have it as "Into the Dark". Mind you - those streaming platforms have both track 8 and track 9 listed as "Big Man", whereas they are really "Big Man" (track 8) and "If Ever" (track 9). We currently have the timings of these two tracks reversed. If you listen to them on Spotify or YouTube Music, "Big Man" is Actually the four minute song and "If Ever" is the six minute one. Even though they're both called "Big Man" on these streaming platforms, you can distinguish which one is which by the lyrics. Ermm

Discogs has the correct track names and running order, but doesn't give the timings.

I don't know why I didn't mention these other anomalies with the 'Overdose' album in my original post from December 2019. I must not have noticed them back then. Embarrassed

Grace have also quite recently released two live DVDs via North Staffordshire video production services company Bomark Studios - one in 2016 and the other in 2017. The first is on discogs, but the second isn't. I'm scared to add them to PA in case I inadvertently open up an even bigger can of worms than the one we already have with Grace! LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NotAProghead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2021 at 20:50
^ Thanks, done.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote yam yam Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2021 at 15:38
^ Yes, that's correct according to everything I've found out so far. If Mac Austin responds to my earlier message about David Edge's contribution to the 'Overdose' album I'll ask him about this debut album as well.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NotAProghead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2021 at 14:33
^ Thanks, David,

as I understand, we have now:
LP Clay Records ‎- CLAY LP1 (1979, UK)
LP MCA Records ‎- MCF3102 (1981, UK)

and
LP Clay Records ‎- CLAY LP2 (1981, UK)

Correct?


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