not liking rock

Like some other people here I started with Rock. Growing up my Dad always listened to a lot of "classic rock"
and so did I. Admittedly I got into metal and such, but it's that classic rock that has stuck with me for all this time.
Like a lot of the prog we listen to I think that rock has some really great staying power to it. People who really like
rock REALLY like their rock. Sure, there's some stuff that is plain cheese and there's some stuff that is far too
fluffy, but I still think that in general the golden age of rock had a lot to offer.

There's a lot of reasons not to like rock, but for me the guitar is something I just love to listen to. It took a long
time for me to appreciate some of the prog that doesn't use it, likely explaining my love for our genre of "heavy
prog"... But hey, it's all a matter of opinion, right?

And ah yes... AC/DC... being that my brother learned to play guitar to them I've heard all their albums a million
times. The Razors Edge is likely the only one I can still listen to... But the rest - Get them away! I don't want
to hear it anymore!!!

But Prof. said it best: I came for the rock, I stayed for the prog.

Seems everyone is slightly distracted now, so I'll take the opportunity and own up to really liking "Sweet Home Alabama".

Not least because I don't get to hear it very often.

I agree a lot with much of what Cert had to say on the matter, although I do have my difference. I did sorta like about 3 or 4 AC/DC songs, a few years ago maybe, but simply from them being overplayed I cannot stand to listen to them anymore. From the "classic" era, I guess all I'm really listening to from then is Black Sabbath and occasional The Hendrix Experience. Used to love Led Zep, but just grew weary of listening to them really. I still love my Iron Maiden and of course as a guitarist, Satriani and Vai as Stonebeard suggested (although the virtuosity they display is far from making them another "fashion accessory" type band).

stonebeard wrote: Sometimes, I get bored of complex music and just wanna rock out or chill out (as tonight with the Cranberries).

That's what 80s Genesis and Peter Gabriel are for me. :)

Given that Progressive Rock owes it's existence to Rock (however you want to define it), it seems a bit strange to rule it out.

TGM: Orb wrote: Atavachron wrote: micky wrote: KeleCableII wrote: I grew up listening to classic rock and began to grow sick of it. The usually dumb lyrics, the obligatory guitar solos, the lack of interesting rhythm sections (with the exception of a few, of course)... it's just so boring to me. prog is not exactly  immune from dumb lyrics... obligatory guitar solos  or the lack of interesting rhythm sections either Less prone to all of those, though. no doubt.. in fact, I'd much rather hear something decent on MTV than bad prog, there's nothing worse than bad prog Torman. Maxt.

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KeleCableII wrote: And I think modern rock (starting with grunge) is one of the worst things to happen to music.

Exactly!

As for classic rock/aor/blues based- rock, it's great stuff.

laplace wrote: Rock's a huge banner but we all know what's meant when it's referenced: classic rock, AOR, or however you want to pigeonhole it. DB - you mean like, er, prog Rock. I can't stand the conservative bluesiness of this classic rock - I don't like the lyrics, I don't like my guitars to be overpowering and predictability (especially of twelve-bar models) evinces a certain amount of pain in me. DB - I can't wait for Vibration Baby to come in with his view as to how prog the prog that came out after 1975 actually is. All genres, I repeat, ALL GENRES have their stereotypes, their "predictabilities", and various aspects that some will find overpowering (constantly shifting time signatures, nonsensical airy fairy lyrics, "ambient/mood/atmosphere interludes", an unseemly over rated sense of musical superiority, an often preposterous claim to being "Art". Choose your genre, and its' fans can surely find much to fault yours. Tit for Tat, and you hopefully learn to couche your words as an opinion. Allow yourself to be told that there are excellent musical acts in ALL GENRES, and crappy ones as well. Am I alone here? Or are there other prog fans out there who make an exception for the subgenre? DB - unfortunately, you're not alone. In my opinion, it is usually based on an intolerance built by classic radio overplaying the same songs. Of course, nowadays most of us (hey, maybe even you, too) have other options when listening to music. DO you have a phonograph at home, or cassette/CD/MP3 player either at home or in your car ? Do you have access to XM or Sirius radio ? In Canada, many of our Satellite and Cable stations have music channels as part of their packages. The music is from the vaults of the CBC. And the various genres abound (no prog yet, but some ambient, jazz fusion, and other somewhat avant-garde options). This might allow youto build up a tolerance and maybe even come to enjoy classic rock when you don't have to hear it all the time. And even if you don't come to like it, you won't need to listen to it, eh. Problem solved, and you can move on to serious "annoyances". honestly, ACDC, Led Zep, DP, Rush, Thin Lizzy, Iron Maiden, Eagles, ect ect ect all really annoy me. DB - Yeah, funny how many people disagree with you on the quality of the music these bands have put out over a number of years, and also managed to get beyond the "here today, gone tomorrow" aspect of so much music. We could just put it down to the mass media, except that, apart from the Eagles, mainstream radio didn't break them, touring, word of mouth, good songs & albums, were responsible.  ;P

:-), Can we pick on an easier target, like Krautrock, or even more esoteric, Raga-Indo Rock ?
Oh, and if a certain set of songs are overplayed, there must be someone out there that wants to hear them again & again. That's not a bad sign for a piece of music, is it?

micky wrote: KeleCableII wrote: I grew up listening to classic rock and began to grow sick of it. The usually dumb lyrics, the obligatory guitar solos, the lack of interesting rhythm sections (with the exception of a few, of course)... it's just so boring to me. prog is not exactly  immune from dumb lyrics... obligatory guitar solos  or the lack of interesting rhythm sections either

I don't know what prog you're listening to but most of the prog I listen to doesn't have that. That's why I listen to it.