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Poll Question: which of these bands have best musicianship
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19 [26.39%]
5 [6.94%]
6 [8.33%]
1 [1.39%]
19 [26.39%]
3 [4.17%]
3 [4.17%]
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Points: 2632 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 16 2013 at 17:25
I agree that GG and KC are generally tied. However, GG has a slight advantage, since ALL of the members are multi-instrumentalists, where KC's are not.
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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

How about Transatlantic ??  Very difficult to choose any band from the list (I'm familiar with all except for Messhugah). 
I did see some of a Toto live DVD and they were mightily impressive.  One longer cut was even full-blown Prog.  It was kinda recent - post-2000 anyway.
here is their strongest line-up, so you can have something to compare that one you saw Big smile,  (one of the rare occations to see Jeff, Mike and Steve Porcaro on a concert when all of them is in top shape), 
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Dream Theater by a long long long way. Looking at the list I'm wondering why Toto isn't included here as a band on PA even if only on the prog related side if needs be.
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Points: 26471 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 16 2013 at 01:52
I feel obliged to vote for ELP if only for how they were in 1974 on the world tour when no one could live with them. The version of Pictures they were doing at the time was insane. They nailed it on that tour but sadly there are no decent recordings of it in existence. Probably would have to pick Karn Evil 9 at Cal Jam for the best available live recording from that period.

From the seventies (and just beyond) I'm sure Eloy are worth a mention at least. Anything better than Time To Turn just on a technical stand point? And they were great live as well.

Would be interesting to do a poll based just on post 1990 bands
Dream Theater
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Par Lindh Project
Anglagard

are a few that would be on my list

EDIT forgetting that DT are already in the list and existed prior to 1990Embarrassed



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Points: 15916 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 16 2013 at 01:10
How about Transatlantic ??  Very difficult to choose any band from the list (I'm familiar with all except for Messhugah). 
I did see some of a Toto live DVD and they were mightily impressive.  One longer cut was even full-blown Prog.  It was kinda recent - post-2000 anyway.
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Points: 4077 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2013 at 23:36
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

There are some bands here that I don't know. And I don't really know so much of music theory and such thing. However, for what it's worth, the classic Yes line-up from Fragile and CttE is just unbeatable for me.

Agree--no one touches this Yes line-up---but Seconds out Genesis and the 80's line up of KC were all amazing live.
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Tough call between GG and KC.

I'll go with GG though.
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Points: 12625 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2013 at 19:22
There are some bands here that I don't know. And I don't really know so much of music theory and such thing. However, for what it's worth, the classic Yes line-up from Fragile and CttE is just unbeatable for me.
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Points: 20365 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2013 at 18:34
KC just aheand of GG though I suspect some of the Chamber Rock bands featuring classically trained musicians are probably the best. 
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Points: 7024 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2013 at 17:33
Originally posted by aapatsos aapatsos wrote:

I will go completely against the tide and say Toto Shocked (just because they deserve at least a vote) LOL
 
Toto are indeed all stellar musicians. For those who say Bruford is the best drummer ever, watch Anthony Phillips, and Steve Lukather has very few peers as a guitarist.
 
And their music has more progressive content than many of the bands on here.
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Points: 2060 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2013 at 17:22
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Points: 9226 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2013 at 16:49
I will go completely against the tide and say Toto Shocked (just because they deserve at least a vote) LOL
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Points: 4591 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2013 at 16:45
In staying within the OP's criteria I voted Gentle Giant.  They technically mastered every crazy instrument they could get their hands on and then were able to display that mastery live.  The live album "Playing the Fool" is a testament to their incredible ability.  I'm thinking specifically of the "Excerpts from Octupus" track.  I saw that tour when GG opened for Yes in 1976 and what band would be crazy enough to perform 4 part A Capella (Knots) or a recorder ensemble in front of 15,000+ screaming Yes maniacs?  

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Points: 34055 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2013 at 16:20
good musicianship is being proficient at most of them and being able to switch between them , by the demand of the music, the setting, the audience, Like Steve Lukather who  can play both fast and slow, play awesome chord changes and have good technique he can play legato, tap, arpeggiating  and is a melodic MASTER, harmonic inter-playing  can he do as well as also can most of Toto previous and present members
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Points: 5153 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2013 at 15:57
'Musicianship' is a rather ambiguous term. Just speed? mastering key changes? techniques other than speed (legatto's, tapping, arpeggiating, etc etc)? Melodical greatness? Harmonic interplays? 
Too vague a question for me to post any opinion.
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In terms of musicianship, I also would choose Magma. But it's very difficult to have to compare the musicality and (especially) the technique of different bands all outstanding because there are too many aspects to consider. How to choose who has the best technique between Fripp, Petrucci and Howe? This is mainly a matter of taste, I think.
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The big difference for me is that when I watch live clips from Magma concerts, I think "there is no way those other guys could ever pull this off"

Gentle Giant, though, have incredible energy and generally play very technical music flawlessly
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I agree with you GG are great musicians, perhaps as much as Magma. But for me Magma has a muscality so perfect which rises to a mystical level! Therefore I would put Magma above the others bands here Smile  
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Points: 34055 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2013 at 14:00
Toto and Meshuggah is very alike, specially in terms of incorporating jazz. Sax man
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Points: 16952 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2013 at 13:56
Obviously IQ...

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Points: 2549 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2013 at 13:39
It's difficult, because whereas some of the bands (like DT) are very showy about their technical abilities, others don't show off as much or just make it sound easy (like KC, they play stuff that's as lot harder than it sounds).

I'm tempted to go KC, but I'm not familiar with enough of GG's work to vote.
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