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ExittheLemming
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Posted: May 05 2017 at 06:43 |
If you're looking for a quintessentially English pastoral take on 1st Gen Prog, then you really can't go wrong with the Trespass, Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot and Selling England by the Pound sequence from the early 70's. Although none of these are 5 star masterpieces in my book, they are uniformly strong throughout and it's testimony to their longevity and influence that they have been plagiarized and imitated ad nauseum by wannabes from every part of the globe ever since. For me, Foxtrot is maybe the pick of the bunch (and I actually rate Get 'Em Out by Friday a smidgen above Supper's Ready so turn the radio up and I'll go quietly)
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chopper
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Posted: May 05 2017 at 05:28 |
Supper's Ready was recently voted the number one prog song in Prog magazine, and that's half the album so obviously not.
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uduwudu
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Posted: May 05 2017 at 05:15 |
Nothing is ever overrated. Something can be underrated.
If Foxtrot has a high rating it's cause symphonic rock (er, prog fans) like it usually. A lot.
Get the views of, say, a 1977 type punk.
This is what politicians like to call "balance".
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miamiscot
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Posted: May 04 2017 at 15:10 |
Underrated? Well, it is a Top Ten LP on most Prog lists (including PA's!) so probably not.
Awesome? One of the best albums ever!!! (But I do prefer The Lamb.)
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micky
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Posted: April 29 2017 at 13:54 |
HackettFan wrote:
Not underrated. Not overrated. |
hah.. good answer...vanilla like that answer I can dig that... and agree with it. Barely worthy of being rated at all...
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HackettFan
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Posted: April 29 2017 at 13:17 |
Not underrated. Not overrated.
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Dellinger
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Posted: April 26 2017 at 21:25 |
aglasshouse wrote:
In the prog world Foxtrot is often hailed and practically worshiped as one of the best prog albums of all time. Outside the prog sphere even it's popularity is nothing to scoff at though, as many people think it's one of if not the best Gabriel-era Genesis album. Personally I think in the time between 1969-1975 Selling England was their best, but we're talking about <i style="font-weight: bold;">popularity here, not <i style="font-weight: bold;">quality, right? | Well, even if popularity is the one considered, Selling England might just as well take it. If I remember correctly, it's the highest rated Genesis album on PA.
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aglasshouse
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Posted: April 26 2017 at 14:00 |
In the prog world Foxtrot is often hailed and practically worshiped as one of the best prog albums of all time. Outside the prog sphere even it's popularity is nothing to scoff at though, as many people think it's one of if not the best Gabriel-era Genesis album. Personally I think in the time between 1969-1975 Selling England was their best, but we're talking about popularity here, not quality, right?
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Catcher10
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Posted: April 26 2017 at 11:36 |
It's not underated.....Supremely OVERATED. A cover that makes no sense and a 24min song about religious gibberish. It suxs......
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Larkstongue41
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Posted: April 26 2017 at 11:23 |
I'm not although I understand my comment suggests the opposite. I just could not let your arrogance be unaddressed this time around.
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Rednight
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Posted: April 26 2017 at 09:23 |
So you're not offended then.
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Blacksword
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Posted: April 26 2017 at 02:59 |
I prefer Foxtrot to SEBTP too, but my overall fave Genesis album is a close tie between The Lamb and Trick.
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Barbu
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Posted: April 25 2017 at 22:58 |
12/10
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Larkstongue41
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Posted: April 25 2017 at 18:13 |
Rednight wrote:
Larkstongue41 wrote:
I also think Foxtrot is one of Genesis's best but I actually think it is "overrated". If you look at the average rating on this database, it has a score of 4.60 which places it in the top 10 of prog albums. I personally don't think anything produced by Genesis deserves such a rank although I love the band very much. | Talk about wishy-washy. 4.60 seems suitably appropriate for this great English prog product. So much to love here and then some. |
Your opinion reflects the 3000+ ratings of that album, I'm sure most people here would agree with you on that. Why call my comment wishy-washy though? I'm not offended in any way, I'm just tired of seeing you insecure condescending person constantly using this forum to vent out your apparent frustration. Peace.
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Tapfret
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: April 25 2017 at 17:44 |
I prefer Selling England and even Nursery Cryme but Foxtrot is still a great album. The only one on there I don't care for that much is "get em out by Friday."
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micky
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Rednight
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Posted: April 25 2017 at 16:25 |
Larkstongue41 wrote:
I also think Foxtrot is one of Genesis's best but I actually think it is "overrated". If you look at the average rating on this database, it has a score of 4.60 which places it in the top 10 of prog albums. I personally don't think anything produced by Genesis deserves such a rank although I love the band very much. |
Talk about wishy-washy. 4.60 seems suitably appropriate for this great English prog product. So much to love here and then some.
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: April 25 2017 at 16:16 |
I myself think it's the best Genesis album, so I can't think I've overrated it.
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dr wu23
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Posted: April 25 2017 at 15:36 |
Thank God for these over and under rated threads.....or we wouldn't have anything to discuss on the forum. ;)
Oh....my vote is not underrated.
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