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bogdan. ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() Joined: June 04 2005 Location: Slovenia Status: Offline Points: 61 |
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You are right about that: "he obviously has very little knowledge of
'music' (classical, jazz, etc.), and instead believes music solely
means entertainment/pop. ", but you still didn't get it, that he's not
talking about music, but people who's thinking to make money with music
(as I sad it before). Not just some prog musicians, but all kind "pop
"music"".
There are people who creates music and people who sells music. (1st kind of people sometimes become "sell music" people, that is here a problem). |
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GATHER ye rosebuds while ye may,
Old Time is still a-flying: And this same flower that smiles to-day To-morrow will be dying. Carpe Diem! |
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boo boo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: June 28 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 905 |
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it also makes no sense...why would you want to limit yourself to one style of music?, i dont, i love many forms of hard rock and classic rock, alternative rock and grunge, prog rock of course, blues, jazz, some country and bluegrass and some metal and yes even punk...you really have to be pretty damn stubborn to limit yourself to one genre and then say everything else is crap...but a lot of punks and metalheads are like that, and thats why they piss me off sometimes. Edited by boo boo |
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 30223 |
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You destroy what you don't understand.We can all make a virtue out of ignorance.As long as you enjoy what you enjoy and don't harm others then nothing else matters.Punks are defined by their hatred of others (and themselves perhaps ??).They have nothing of interest to say.
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NetsNJFan ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: April 12 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3047 |
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This putz can go f*ck himself. he brings out (some) valid points about prog, but these mean nothing without context, especially when placed in such a biased environment. he obviously has very little knowledge of 'music' (classical, jazz, etc.), and instead believes music solely means entertainment/pop. if he was so disgusted by the works of Yes, no doubt classical music would disgust him even more (being even farther removed from the 3-chord thrash he desires). it's really too bad that all he looks for in music is the simplest common denominator, and the fact that he can't see that 'punk' has 'sold-out' much more than prog ever could have. putz.
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boo boo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: June 28 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 905 |
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funny, thats not what rolling stone, spin or blender says, according to them, prog is dead and punk still lives. |
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KoS ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 17 2005 Location: Los Angeles Status: Offline Points: 16310 |
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I think that the punk was necessary to put prog into its place which is not the mainstream.
Secondly, punk has sold out and is an extinct form of music because all new punk sounds the same And last of all Crass was an art punk band Punk has died but prog still continues!!! |
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boo boo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: June 28 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 905 |
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and hypocritical, the guy who wrote this article says musicians shouldnt try to make art, which is exactly what hawkwind, roxy music, david bowie, velvet underground, television and nirvana all make. Edited by boo boo |
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Rob The Good ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: December 17 2004 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 476 |
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That guy seems to love Hawkwind and Roxy Music....umm...Art Rock.
He's clearly a total loser! A friend of mine said she liked "Art Punk"...eh?!!! That's a contradiction! ![]() |
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And Jesus said unto John, "come forth and receive eternal life..."
Unfortunately, John came fifth and was stuck with a toaster. |
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boo boo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: June 28 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 905 |
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i know, kinda hypocritical how he poked fun at yes for how they dress on stage yet he praises hawkwind and devo...makes no sense...im also curious about why he didnt mention pink floyd whatsoever, after all...they were the biggest target for the sex pistols. Edited by boo boo |
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Hangedman ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: November 03 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1261 |
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dont worry about it, hells bells is awesome |
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kingofbizzare ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: March 09 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 520 |
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They had some good things to say about Hawkwind at least...
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boo boo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: June 28 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 905 |
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hey i like ac/dc. =( |
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Hangedman ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: November 03 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1261 |
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From what I understand it isnt prog he dislikes it bands that break the mould and try something different. im surprised hes a punk fan and not an ac/dc (the band that admitted they are making the same album every year) fan
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boo boo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: June 28 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 905 |
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im sorry but i disagree...when the beatles made revolver and sgt pepper they were breaking away from their old formula, their ambition was not to make money because their new music wasnt commercial, their ambition was to break musicial boundrys, which they did...if punk rockers hate prog because they dont understand it, i wouldnt be surprised, they probably have the incapability, it may be because they lack the intellect or brain cells to understand the meaning of prog or the ambitions of progs greatest bands, perhaps because they dont like songs with big words that they dont know how to spell, pronounce or understand...ok, thats enough laughing at the expense of punk for me...also im pretty sure that guy was bashing prog. Edited by boo boo |
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ulver982 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 07 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 266 |
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What that person wrote about prog, you can do the same thing with any genre of music. Let the little bastard enjoy his punk music...
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coffeeintheface ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 02 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 397 |
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Hahahah he said "shag", just like austin powers!! ![]() |
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Dick Heath ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock Specialist Joined: April 19 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 12818 |
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Ignore it. One of the most eclectric music magazine around Wire, did a
mindless A to Z of progressive rock about 10 years ago, and couldn't
say anything good about the music. Mainstream magazine like Q took the
piss. Mojo treated Van Der Graaf as a joke about 6 years ago. It
reflects for 20 years that the punkjournalists and other writers were
(and some still are) holding the power in the media - the evidence that
they wrote nonsense, poorly considered, usually 2nd hand rubbish is
that the best of prog survived and seems to be thriving again, and only
the very best of punk survives.
Watching a documentary on the Clash not so long ago Mick Jones said his brother played him a Yes album before Clash were formed. His reaction, living as he did in a poor part of the east end of London, unemployed and a bleak-looking future, was "What the f*** has this music got to do with me or the life around me?". A valid point. Punk then was youth trying to get they ideas across and simplistically. Punks now is a fashion statement, made by people of few ideas, none of their own. Too much popular music is made for the moment, and it is daft to pretend it will be listened to in 20 years time let alone 200. However, punk musicians listen to prog - we have all heard now that Johnny Rotten played Van der Graaf, Siouxie & the Banshees did covers of late 60's hits |
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Tony R ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: July 16 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 11985 |
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You cant send hate mail to someone for expressing an opinion about his taste in music. Whatever happened to freedom of speech.....? Peace. No seriously,this kind of person always wants to impose his own taste in music on other people,that's all.His basic argument appears to be that "pop" songs shouldnt be more than 3 mins long and should be based on basic "rock n roll" chord progressions.Which means that by about 1970 all that could be said and played would have been done,to death. |
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abyssyinfinity ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 13 2005 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 443 |
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I agree, especially when he said Phil Collins is the Anti Christ...
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The Miracle ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: May 29 2005 Location: hell Status: Offline Points: 28427 |
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