Progarchives.com has always (since 2002) relied on banners ads to cover web hosting fees and all. Please consider supporting us by giving monthly PayPal donations and help keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.
Topic: Progarchives bullies Posted: November 06 2014 at 03:04
Prog_Traveller wrote:
Guldbamsen wrote:
When you start two negative threads at the same time you're bound to get negative feedback. Putting the word 'cheesy' in any thread title invites people's vile. You don't jump in a swimmingpool if you're afraid to get wet. Same here: if you don't want people posting negative things in your threads, then don't invite them to begin with
I said it before but I'll say it again. It was not my intention to be deliberately negative. It is others who interpreted the word "cheesy" as negative not me. I just wanted to see if that description was accurate and as it turns out it was as far as how some fans feel about the music. I don't understand what is so wrong with a little cheese now and then. People say some albums I really like are cheesy and that's fine. It's up to how others how they want to interpret it. However, if it's not one thing it's another with certain people on here. I'm convinced of that. Most people had no problem with my polls. A few did and most of them expressed their opinion in a polite and civilized way.
If I said I wanted to see if people considered certain albums to be sleepy is that a bad thing too? Some people would interpret that as them being boring. Maybe I'm just looking for opinions about what albums are good to fall asleep to. See, it's all about how you chose to interpret things.
I do apologize to those who were offended by my polls and thought they were negative. As they say you can't please everyone. I will just suggest to you guys not to take the polls so seriously. There was no personal attacks in the polls themselves and not even on anyone's tastes but still some of you guys were clearly offended by it even though it was not my intention to offend anyone.
By the way, does anyone know of any good prog lawyers? I think I need one now.
Sorry but that's bollocks. You've been around this place for long enough to know what 'cheesy' means, or else you wouldn't have posted threads relating to both Metal and Neo. You used that deliberately as a way to seek out a reaction in people. Well you got it. Now you're just making a backwards explanation in order to have us all look at Dean like the bully he really is... Nahh He saw through you like he's done before, and you can't handle that. There I said it. If you can't handle that, then yes you should probably look around for other prog sites.
Also you've started another thread exactly like this before, where you too tried to hang Dean out to dry. It didn't take, so now when you're engaged with him once again on the backbone of something you yourself started, you come crying with your troubles.
Either take it to PM with him, me or any other admin. This is not worth the space of data.
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
Joined: September 30 2006
Location: Pearland
Status: Offline
Points: 64672
Posted: November 06 2014 at 02:47
Prog_Traveller wrote:
Earlier tonight I saw these two guys staring at each other. For a little while it looked like a staring contest and I briefly thought they were going to go at it and start throwing punches. However, it turns out they knew each other and right before it got intense they hugged each other.
Anyway, I don't know what to say except now you know who I have been having problems with. Should I just not post on here anymore since obviously certain people can get away with being a troll? I really am not interested in participating in the wild west of prog forums so maybe that's the best thing for me to do.
Well that's a bit of a loaded question, but I will say that this is the wild west of prog forums, it's the big leagues and that's why I like it. Serious music lovers of the most arrogant variety. And you are a part of that too. Embrace it.
"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
Joined: September 10 2010
Location: Earth
Status: Offline
Points: 6253
Posted: November 06 2014 at 02:46
Prog_Traveller wrote:
Earlier tonight I saw these two guys staring at each other. For a little while it looked like a staring contest and I briefly thought they were going to go at it and start throwing punches. However, it turns out they knew each other and right before it got intense they hugged each other.
Anyway, I don't know what to say except now you know who I have been having problems with. Should I just not post on here anymore since obviously certain people can get away with being a troll? I really am not interested in participating in the wild west of prog forums so maybe that's the best thing for me to do.
Prog_Traveller, I love your spunkiness and direct approach lol but believe me no one here especially the above are bullies, when you get to know them you'll love them. It's easy to misperceive or misunderstand things, Dean is very direct and at times might seem harsh but he is one of the most sweetest people on here, I like him a lot. You two should leave it and rather focus your energy on funny and very silly things :) xxxxx
Joined: August 30 2014
Location: Poole, UK
Status: Offline
Points: 246
Posted: November 06 2014 at 02:45
Prog_Traveller wrote:
Ok. I agree. I'll drop it. We should all just act like one big family(one big prog family). Oh wait, families do fight and argue sometimes so I guess the family comparison is appropriate.
Good lad! Now let's go back to our discussions about prog. Actually, I don't quite like the "prog" term. Somehow it reminds me about "proctology" for some silly reason. "Art rock" - this sounds and looks far more appropriate! But, I guess, the majority already made their decision..
Edited by Darious - November 06 2014 at 02:45
Writing about truth is a little bit like getting your dick out in public and hoping no one laughs (Steve Hogarth)
Joined: May 29 2005
Location: Bucks county PA
Status: Offline
Points: 1474
Posted: November 06 2014 at 02:40
Earlier tonight I saw these two guys staring at each other. For a little while it looked like a staring contest and I briefly thought they were going to go at it and start throwing punches. However, it turns out they knew each other and right before it got intense they hugged each other.
Anyway, I don't know what to say except now you know who I have been having problems with. Should I just not post on here anymore since obviously certain people can get away with being a troll? I really am not interested in participating in the wild west of prog forums so maybe that's the best thing for me to do.
Edited by Prog_Traveller - November 06 2014 at 02:42
Joined: September 30 2006
Location: Pearland
Status: Offline
Points: 64672
Posted: November 06 2014 at 02:31
Dean wrote:
Atavachron wrote:
I'm a bit of a tough guy but I also am highly compassionate, especially around internet bullying. I don't take to bullies very well and like to consider myself a bully-basher, but of course that occasionally makes me the very thing I'm against. However, once in a while fire must be fought with fire, and so, PT, in addition to the brilliant advice given by Dayvenkirq, I would say if you get harassed again in the future, let me know and I'll "explain things to them".
Capishe ?
He is referring to me David. I hadn't made the connection until I saw this thread that Mr Prog_Traveller is the same person I had an unfortunate run-in with back in July over some silly misunderstanding (on his part). Today I had the temerity to voice my disapproval of two polls with the word "cheesy" in their leading poll question. Apparently this constitutes "bullying" and "harassing", and that makes me a "troll".
Damn-- I was so looking forward to kicking some troll's ass all over the forums. Where are they when you need 'em. Good times.
"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
Joined: May 29 2005
Location: Bucks county PA
Status: Offline
Points: 1474
Posted: November 06 2014 at 02:15
Guldbamsen wrote:
When you start two negative threads at the same time you're bound to get negative feedback. Putting the word 'cheesy' in any thread title invites people's vile. You don't jump in a swimmingpool if you're afraid to get wet. Same here: if you don't want people posting negative things in your threads, then don't invite them to begin with
I said it before but I'll say it again. It was not my intention to be deliberately negative. It is others who interpreted the word "cheesy" as negative not me. I just wanted to see if that description was accurate and as it turns out it was as far as how some fans feel about the music. I don't understand what is so wrong with a little cheese now and then. People say some albums I really like are cheesy and that's fine. It's up to how others how they want to interpret it. However, if it's not one thing it's another with certain people on here. I'm convinced of that. Most people had no problem with my polls. A few did and most of them expressed their opinion in a polite and civilized way.
If I said I wanted to see if people considered certain albums to be sleepy is that a bad thing too? Some people would interpret that as them being boring. Maybe I'm just looking for opinions about what albums are good to fall asleep to. See, it's all about how you chose to interpret things.
I do apologize to those who were offended by my polls and thought they were negative. As they say you can't please everyone. I will just suggest to you guys not to take the polls so seriously. There was no personal attacks in the polls themselves and not even on anyone's tastes but still some of you guys were clearly offended by it even though it was not my intention to offend anyone.
By the way, does anyone know of any good prog lawyers? I think I need one now.
Edited by Prog_Traveller - November 06 2014 at 02:34
Joined: May 29 2005
Location: Bucks county PA
Status: Offline
Points: 1474
Posted: November 06 2014 at 02:12
Ok. I agree. I'll drop it. We should all just act like one big family(one big prog family). Oh wait, families do fight and argue sometimes so I guess the family comparison is appropriate.
When you start two negative threads at the same time you're bound to get negative feedback. Putting the word 'cheesy' in any thread title invites people's vile. You don't jump in a swimmingpool if you're afraid to get wet. Same here: if you don't want people posting negative things in your threads, then don't invite them to begin with
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
Joined: September 10 2010
Location: Earth
Status: Offline
Points: 6253
Posted: November 06 2014 at 02:04
Dean wrote:
Atavachron wrote:
I'm a bit of a tough guy but I also am highly compassionate, especially around internet bullying. I don't take to bullies very well and like to consider myself a bully-basher, but of course that occasionally makes me the very thing I'm against. However, once in a while fire must be fought with fire, and so, PT, in addition to the brilliant advice given by Dayvenkirq, I would say if you get harassed again in the future, let me know and I'll "explain things to them".
Capishe ?
He is referring to me David. I hadn't made the connection until I saw this thread that Mr Prog_Traveller is the same person I had an unfortunate run-in with back in July over some silly misunderstanding (on his part). Today I had the temerity to voice my disapproval of two polls with the word "cheesy" in their leading poll question. Apparently this constitutes "bullying" and "harassing", and that makes me a "troll".
Aww this is clearly a misunderstanding.
Dean you are very Grumpy at times true but Prog_Traveller is completely mistaken about you really, you are very nice even when grumpy. I just met him, I like him he is very mischievous too just like me but also mistaken about you Dean and your no nonsense attitude added with your dark witty humour might be perceived as a negative but it's absolutely not!. You are my fav grumpy, I mentioned this many times before and in my scale, you are top level grumpy at a time hahahaha hehehe hihihi hohoho hugs love you, you grumpy cuddly thing!
Joined: May 29 2005
Location: Bucks county PA
Status: Offline
Points: 1474
Posted: November 06 2014 at 01:59
[He is referring to me David. I hadn't made the connection until I saw this thread that Mr Prog_Traveller is the same person I had an unfortunate run-in with back in July over some silly misunderstanding (on his part). Today I had the temerity to voice my disapproval of two polls with the word "cheesy" in their leading poll question. Apparently this constitutes "bullying" and "harassing", and that makes me a "troll".]
Yeah, but it's the way you go about it. You aren't diplomatic at all. If you want I can post the conversation here and let everyone decide for themselves. Then they get to see how you initiate the baiting and unnecessarily negative comments. I don't understand why you just can't keep your negative comments to yourself. You obviously have some kind of personal issues where you just can't leave well enough alone. Others on here might tolerate it but I won't. YOu do it again and I will report you and now that you outed yourself hopefully you will learn and not do it again(somehow I doubt you are capable of that though since you love to bait people). Oh and being a former moderator on here does not excuse your bad behavior. Before anyone accuses me of attacking him or being aggressive let me just so that Dean is the only person on here I have ever had a serious issue with and if it wasn't for his negativity I would not have to resort to posting this thread in the first place.
Edited by Prog_Traveller - November 06 2014 at 02:02
Special Collaborator
Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout
Joined: May 13 2007
Location: Europe
Status: Offline
Points: 37575
Posted: November 06 2014 at 01:53
Atavachron wrote:
I'm a bit of a tough guy but I also am highly compassionate, especially around internet bullying. I don't take to bullies very well and like to consider myself a bully-basher, but of course that occasionally makes me the very thing I'm against. However, once in a while fire must be fought with fire, and so, PT, in addition to the brilliant advice given by Dayvenkirq, I would say if you get harassed again in the future, let me know and I'll "explain things to them".
Capishe ?
He is referring to me David. I hadn't made the connection until I saw this thread that Mr Prog_Traveller is the same person I had an unfortunate run-in with back in July over some silly misunderstanding (on his part). Today I had the temerity to voice my disapproval of two polls with the word "cheesy" in their leading poll question. Apparently this constitutes "bullying" and "harassing", and that makes me a "troll".
Joined: May 29 2005
Location: Bucks county PA
Status: Offline
Points: 1474
Posted: November 06 2014 at 01:30
Well most message boards have at least one troll including this one. But yeah I'm just going to let it rest from now on unless I need to take more action.
Thanks. Hugs back to you. Can I give you the nickname prog princess? ;)
Joined: September 10 2010
Location: Earth
Status: Offline
Points: 6253
Posted: November 06 2014 at 01:11
Prog_Traveller wrote:
lazland wrote:
I am certainly guilty sometimes of being what Sonia refers to as a "grumpy" person. Hands up to that.
However, grumpy posts, and exasperated ones for all that, are very different to bullying someone. The latter is a deliberate act which causes untold grief and pain, sometimes with very serious consequences.
I do not know of anyone on this site that could be described as an internet bully, troll, call it what you will. That is because we have an excellent system of governance, far more than most other sites I know of.
So, if you feel bullied, then contact an admin by PM, and they will judge the matter. That is what they are there for.
If, btw, anyone takes exception to a post I make, they are welcome to contact me. I will always apologise when I am out of order.
If you want I can send to you via pm the exact thread or posts by this person then you can judge for yourself. I admit that I have a low tolerance for negativity and unnecessary comments. I don't mean to vilify this person as I know he/she is respected on here but this person has told me in the past they would leave me alone and yet continues to be a nuisance. I can't help but think that this person just has a chip on his/her shoulder and knows they can get away with it. If they are reading this now I can tell them that they are mistaken.
Prog_Traveller,
I think you got the idea that you are most welcome and not to take everything said seriously. Unless someone physically threatened you or directly insulted and mentally abused you, I think we should leave it as this. That person who hurt/offended you might read this post too. You are sweet, leave it as it is now. Hugs xxxx
Joined: May 29 2005
Location: Bucks county PA
Status: Offline
Points: 1474
Posted: November 06 2014 at 01:05
lazland wrote:
I am certainly guilty sometimes of being what Sonia refers to as a "grumpy" person. Hands up to that.
However, grumpy posts, and exasperated ones for all that, are very different to bullying someone. The latter is a deliberate act which causes untold grief and pain, sometimes with very serious consequences.
I do not know of anyone on this site that could be described as an internet bully, troll, call it what you will. That is because we have an excellent system of governance, far more than most other sites I know of.
So, if you feel bullied, then contact an admin by PM, and they will judge the matter. That is what they are there for.
If, btw, anyone takes exception to a post I make, they are welcome to contact me. I will always apologise when I am out of order.
If you want I can send to you via pm the exact thread or posts by this person then you can judge for yourself. I admit that I have a low tolerance for negativity and unnecessary comments but that doesn't excuse the snippy and unnecessary comments from this person. I don't mean to vilify this person as I know he/she is respected on here but this person has told me in the past they would leave me alone and yet continues to be a nuisance. I can't help but think that this person just has a chip on his/her shoulder and knows they can get away with it. If they are reading this now I can tell them that they are mistaken.
Edited by Prog_Traveller - November 06 2014 at 01:08
Joined: September 10 2010
Location: Earth
Status: Offline
Points: 6253
Posted: November 06 2014 at 00:52
lazland wrote:
I am certainly guilty sometimes of being what Sonia refers to as a "grumpy" person. Hands up to that.
However, grumpy posts, and exasperated ones for all that, are very different to bullying someone. The latter is a deliberate act which causes untold grief and pain, sometimes with very serious consequences.
I do not know of anyone on this site that could be described as an internet bully, troll, call it what you will. That is because we have an excellent system of governance, far more than most other sites I know of.
So, if you feel bullied, then contact an admin by PM, and they will judge the matter. That is what they are there for.
If, btw, anyone takes exception to a post I make, they are welcome to contact me. I will always apologise when I am out of order.
Awww nooo ... Lazland, you have a dry sense of humour and at times you are very sensible too but hahaha nope nah niet nao non etc at your worst I would rate you max at middle level grumpy hahaha!! lololol you are funny even if at times this was not your intent hahaha hugs
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum
This page was generated in 0.109 seconds.
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.
/PAlogo_v2.gif "Progarchives.com Homepage")
Progarchives bullies
Topic Options
Prog_Traveller wrote:
hugs 