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    Posted: February 02 2018 at 13:17
Gentle Giant had a great interest in Rabelais' "Gargantua and Pantagruel". the songs "Pantagruel's Nativity" and "The Advent of Panurge" both refer to that novel, and even the band's name was inspired by it.

let's not forget that the "Alice" books by Lewis Carroll inspired both the band Bruford (the song "Fainting in Coils" starts with a quotation from "Alice in Wonderland") and Chick Corea (the album "The Mad Hatter")


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2018 at 12:04
Wakeman's project because the late, great David Hemmings did the narration.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2018 at 07:41
when one speaks of prog and literature one must not forget Bo Hansson's "Lord of the Rings"


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2018 at 12:11
My great 1976 vinyl: Tales....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2018 at 12:07
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Didn't realize you were a TD fan, BaldJean. I need to pay more attention!
 
Tyger consists of four Blake poems adapted to song (vocals by Jocelyn B. Smith): "Tyger," "London." "The Fly" and "The Smile."
 
Upon release, Tyger was quite the left turn for TD. It was only their second studio album with Paul Haslinger, who filled the void left by Johannes Schmoelling. The band's only other album with vocals was 1978's Cyclone. (And then two more songs would show up on the Shy People soundtrack, released later in '87!)
 
Of course, I liked Tyger upon first listen. It's just that good. The CD also featured instrumental bonus tracks left off the LP/cassette versions. Clap

and I am a fan of literature. I read all those novels and poems, though I did not understand "Finnegans Wake". but no-one does


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2018 at 11:26
Only album that I´ve heard is Wakeman. It´s long time, but what I remembered, it was quite boring. Have to listen it someday. Anyway I choose Hamill just because I am a big Poe-fan.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2018 at 11:03
Didn't realize you were a TD fan, BaldJean. I need to pay more attention!
 
Tyger consists of four Blake poems adapted to song (vocals by Jocelyn B. Smith): "Tyger," "London." "The Fly" and "The Smile."
 
Upon release, Tyger was quite the left turn for TD. It was only their second studio album with Paul Haslinger, who filled the void left by Johannes Schmoelling. The band's only other album with vocals was 1978's Cyclone. (And then two more songs would show up on the Shy People soundtrack, released later in '87!)
 
Of course, I liked Tyger upon first listen. It's just that good. The CD also featured instrumental bonus tracks left off the LP/cassette versions. Clap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2018 at 09:02
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,

Tangerine Dream also did Kafka ... The Castle ... and it is a very nice album!

yes, and the albums "Inferno" and "Purgatorio" are based on Dante's "Divine Comedy"


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2018 at 08:11
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Tangerine Dream also did Kafka ... The Castle ... and it is a very nice album!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2018 at 05:01
Tangerine Dream did a few albums based on literature.



based on the "novel" of the same name by James Joyce.



based on the novel "Der Engel vom westlichen Fenster" by Gustav Meyrink; the English title is a translation of the original German title.

their album "Tyger" contains a famous poem by William Blake:



the album "The Island of the Fay" shares title with a famous poem by Edgar Allan Poe



the German band Agitation Free used the lyrics of the poem "Dreamland" by Edgar Allan Poe on their second album for the track "Haunted Island":








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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2018 at 22:23
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

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I did not enjoy Rick's doing when this came out. It felt cartoonish for my tastes and simplified to try and make it important, and worse ... fit on the length of a LP ... about 40 minutes or so ... which meant ... trim the heck out of the story for it to fit. This, might not have been an issue TODAY, and Rick probably could release a COMPLETE version of the whole thing at about 60 to 80 minutes, and it would sound way better and complete to my tastes ... it just felt like a Cliff Notes version of it, and I quit on it quickly.

Probably better, although also limited to the LP sizes, were David Bedford's "Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner", and then later "The Odyssey" ... which should have been listed here, but they were more "classical" pieces with voice narrating than a full blown "opera" or work that was more cohesive than just a quick read.

But to me, these are interesting, but things like "The Snow Goose" is much better, and more "centered" on its subject/themes to make it much tighter and better. Would have loved to hear/find the one time that supposedly Spike Milligan did the reading for Camel on this ... if it was true. No one was as good about telling stories as he was ... and he left us with many albums and books of these stories!


Well, Rick did re-record Journey a few years ago, with better production and a few new songs. Still, I think it lost a bit of the edge of the original release, and Ricks keyboards were stronger and more interesting... the new recording sort of gave way to focus more on the orchestra.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2018 at 08:53
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,

I did not enjoy Rick's doing when this came out. It felt cartoonish for my tastes and simplified to try and make it important, and worse ... fit on the length of a LP ... about 40 minutes or so ... which meant ... trim the heck out of the story for it to fit. This, might not have been an issue TODAY, and Rick probably could release a COMPLETE version of the whole thing at about 60 to 80 minutes, and it would sound way better and complete to my tastes ... it just felt like a Cliff Notes version of it, and I quit on it quickly.

Probably better, although also limited to the LP sizes, were David Bedford's "Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner", and then later "The Odyssey" ... which should have been listed here, but they were more "classical" pieces with voice narrating than a full blown "opera" or work that was more cohesive than just a quick read.

But to me, these are interesting, but things like "The Snow Goose" is much better, and more "centered" on its subject/themes to make it much tighter and better. Would have loved to hear/find the one time that supposedly Spike Milligan did the reading for Camel on this ... if it was true. No one was as good about telling stories as he was ... and he left us with many albums and books of these stories!

Personally, I really liked the Wakeman album, and I did not enjoy "The Snow Goose" nearly as much, but that is all very subjective, ain't it? Actually, I love Camel, and that is one of their not as good albums, in my opinion. Well, I can appreciate it, but I never really listened to it all that much...

Anyways, I should look up David Bredford. Sounds interesting!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2018 at 07:40
Hi,

I did not enjoy Rick's doing when this came out. It felt cartoonish for my tastes and simplified to try and make it important, and worse ... fit on the length of a LP ... about 40 minutes or so ... which meant ... trim the heck out of the story for it to fit. This, might not have been an issue TODAY, and Rick probably could release a COMPLETE version of the whole thing at about 60 to 80 minutes, and it would sound way better and complete to my tastes ... it just felt like a Cliff Notes version of it, and I quit on it quickly.

Probably better, although also limited to the LP sizes, were David Bedford's "Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner", and then later "The Odyssey" ... which should have been listed here, but they were more "classical" pieces with voice narrating than a full blown "opera" or work that was more cohesive than just a quick read.

But to me, these are interesting, but things like "The Snow Goose" is much better, and more "centered" on its subject/themes to make it much tighter and better. Would have loved to hear/find the one time that supposedly Spike Milligan did the reading for Camel on this ... if it was true. No one was as good about telling stories as he was ... and he left us with many albums and books of these stories!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2018 at 04:41
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Peter Hammill actually did another piece of literature in collaboration with the Kronos Quartet, "The Music of Erich Zann" (based on a story by H. P. Lovecraft). the music was composed and played by the Kronos Quartet, Peter Hammill read the story (there were other narrators on other occassions the Kronos Quartet played this piece of music). they performed this three times at the Barbican. anyone who is curios about this can listen to it here:

https://archive.org/details/PapersForTheBorderEpisode8

I will make sure to check it out!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2018 at 02:07
Peter Hammill actually did another piece of literature in collaboration with the Kronos Quartet, "The Music of Erich Zann" (based on a story by H. P. Lovecraft). the music was composed and played by the Kronos Quartet, Peter Hammill read the story (there were other narrators on other occassions the Kronos Quartet played this piece of music). they performed this three times at the Barbican. anyone who is curios about this can listen to it here:

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2018 at 01:31
Poe, translated in french by Charles Baudelaire.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2018 at 01:03
Peter Hammill for me. the 1999 version, not the 1990 one. the two versions are very different; the 1999 version is for example completely without drums, and there are many other changes in arrangement too. here an excerpt, the beginning of the second act:



and here one of my favorite passages, the duet between Madeleine Usher and Montresor



the line-up of the album is this:

Roderick Usher - Peter Hammill
Montresor - Andy Bell
the Chorus (in the sense of the Elizabethan theater) - Sarah-Jane Morris
Madeleine Usher - Lene Lovich
the Herbalist - Herbert Grönemeyer
the Voices of the House - Peter Hammill (in a chorus with himself)

Peter Hammill plays keyboards and guitars (and in the 1990 version drums and percussion too); Stuart Gordon adds some violin in the 1999 version



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2018 at 21:49
Originally posted by Squonk19 Squonk19 wrote:

Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

this poll really needs a "too close to call" choice.  I don't know the Hammill take on Poe, but the other 3 are all great IMO.  I'm going to give the slight nod to Wakeman's Journey.  I just happened to listen to side 1 recently and thoroughly enjoyed it.  Parsons is a great album but the orchestral part could have been left out.  If I Robot was on the list the choice would have been more difficult. Jeff Wayne's is great but side 4 is a mess.


Agreed - Tales is very good, but the Project went onto even greater things. Rick's album remains a true prog classic - especially Side 1. Haven't heard War of the Worlds for quite a while - some great songs, but a bit of soft rock filler too. The Caped Crusader for me!


For me Tales is the best Parsons album (though I agree that the orchestral section, I guess you mean form The House of Usher song, really doesn't work very well), closely followed by I Robot. However, I don't really know how well I Robot would work for this poll, as I understand it, it doesn't really have much to do with Asimov's book (at least I don't find much relation apart from the name and it's theme is robots... I think there's some other book with the same name, I don't know if the album might be related to that one instead).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2018 at 19:02
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

I love those Wakeman and Wayne albums, but as a Poe fan, I can't vote without first revisiting the one by Hammill.

I concur we need an "All of the above" option!

That is what I would vote for!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2018 at 17:01
I love those Wakeman and Wayne albums, but as a Poe fan, I can't vote without first revisiting the one by Hammill.

I concur we need an "All of the above" option!
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