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Poll Question: Which album do you like the most
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Brain Salad Surgery by a million miles.
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BSS !
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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Toccata is a totally insane track. KE9 is 29 minutes of bravado sticking a middle finger up to the rest of the prog fraternity. Bold, brash, arrogant and just a tiny moment from careering off the rails and taking out a whole town. Careful , measured and looking over their shoulder were things that were never said about ELP.
 
Can't disagree with that, although Toccata is far better (and crazier) on WBMFTTSTNE - how they ever managed to perform that live I will never know.

well..  to be honest...  with the exception of Cream.. ELP was probably the best collection of pure musical talent rock had ever seen.  It took balls to do something like that on BSS.. it took legendary skill to duplicate that.. even top it live.  I was too young obviously to catch them in their heyday but not young enough to have not run with those that did catch them and in the opinion of many.. of all the shows they saw.. tours.  LZ, the Who, the Stones ...  many have said that the 74 tour was the single best tour and shows they ever saw.
 

Yeah I've got the bootleg box sets and ELP were incredible at that time. The show from Springfield is really something else especially Pictures. I wonder if any budding musicians just saw this and thought 'f**k it I might as well give up now'!
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Toccata is a totally insane track. KE9 is 29 minutes of bravado sticking a middle finger up to the rest of the prog fraternity. Bold, brash, arrogant and just a tiny moment from careering off the rails and taking out a whole town. Careful , measured and looking over their shoulder were things that were never said about ELP.
 
Can't disagree with that, although Toccata is far better (and crazier) on WBMFTTSTNE - how they ever managed to perform that live I will never know.
 

They had a guy called Carl Palmer apparently.Big smile Most synths on that track are played through his custom drum synthesiser. He even demonstrated on a Blue Peter show in the seventies . I've seen the footage but not sure where (maybe Y/T) . When they did it live , Emerson would go off stage just to prove that it was Carl playing a lot of it! 
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Though I love ELP, solar Fire it is. 
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The long guitarsolo on Father of Day/Father of Night is so stunning, dynamic and bold, how the strings are bendt to the accents and melodic and distinct very rocking solo that melts iron.

Edited by Icarium - July 25 2019 at 15:45
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BSS is BSS. That's all there is to it. It has "Toccata" and it has "KE9." BSS is one of the Greatest Prog Records. ELP would never again attain such dizzying heights, but they didn't really need to, did they? They laid it all out for everyone to see...in a musical sense, Keith was the ultimate exhibitionist of his time. He defined the term "lead keyboardist."

Solar Fire is very tasty, and to its credit, very different. But BSS is BSS.
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Seven ex-virgins on a Firebird.
 
sounds like a night out with micky.

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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Toccata is a totally insane track. KE9 is 29 minutes of bravado sticking a middle finger up to the rest of the prog fraternity. Bold, brash, arrogant and just a tiny moment from careering off the rails and taking out a whole town. Careful , measured and looking over their shoulder were things that were never said about ELP.
 
Can't disagree with that, although Toccata is far better (and crazier) on WBMFTTSTNE - how they ever managed to perform that live I will never know.

well..  to be honest...  with the exception of Cream.. ELP was probably the best collection of pure musical talent rock had ever seen.  It took balls to do something like that on BSS.. it took legendary skill to duplicate that.. even top it live.  I was too young obviously to catch them in their heyday but not young enough to have not run with those that did catch them and in the opinion of many.. of all the shows they saw.. tours.  LZ, the Who, the Stones ...  many have said that the 74 tour was the single best tour and shows they ever saw.


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BSS for me
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There's 'magnificent keyboarders'...and then there's Keith. There's 'stellar singing'...and then there's Greg. There's whatever a 'driving bear/beat/beat fruit' is...and then there's Carl.

ELP for me, please.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Toccata is a totally insane track. KE9 is 29 minutes of bravado sticking a middle finger up to the rest of the prog fraternity. Bold, brash, arrogant and just a tiny moment from careering off the rails and taking out a whole town. Careful , measured and looking over their shoulder were things that were never said about ELP.
 
Can't disagree with that, although Toccata is far better (and crazier) on WBMFTTSTNE - how they ever managed to perform that live I will never know.
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Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Two albums released in 1973, two bands that played a mix of original song mixed with covers or renditions of others. Being it Jerusalem or Fathe of Day/ Father of Night. Both bands had magnicent keyboarders, stellar singing and a driving bear/beat/beat fruit.

So which do you Solar most to in your Salad
 
What is "a driving bear/beat/beat fruit"?
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

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sounds like a night out with micky.
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Solar Fire - Mannfred Manns Earth Band     by far
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Strange choice of albums to compare.

BSS is technically mind blowing, but it wouldn't bother me if I never heard it again. I enjoy Solar Fire more, so it gets the vote. Neither album is the best by either band IMO.
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ELP on this one.

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