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Boojieboy ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 02 2016 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 664 |
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Another metric is standing up to the test of time. I've enjoyed Gentle Giant, Mothers of Invention, and Frank Zappa solo, but that last one - for me at least - hasn't stood the test of time (for me that's 40 years). GG has stood strong and is still as listenable as from the start, but the novelty of Zappa solo has gotten old, and I rarely ever listen to that any more. Mother's classics like "Uncle Meat" still are strong though. Although having fun, that's more musical and less comedy-desperation.
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21757 |
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^ Having said that, that does not mean that he should win this poll - some people just don't like him, and GG are much more at the heart of the prog movement than Zappa ever was.
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21757 |
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I think that Zappa is the objective winner of this poll when we consider the total musical output and "reach" in terms of influence on musicians. As great as Gentle Giant were, Zappa was bigger, more prolific and more consistent over decades.
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18459 |
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Hi,
In the what I consider sad department, this poll just shows how folks don't look at Frank Zappa as a composer, and then think that Gentle Giant has the best songs. It's an unfair, and sad, comparison, but I imagine that we have to look at the history and how they will stand up. Gentle Giant was outstanding, and even showed it in concert, but Frank Zappa, stood out when he also did a lot of classical material and showed some of his own material in a format that would be considered "classical", which sometimes is the reason why some folks don't like it ... or worse, Frank putting his guitar down and taking on the baton ... because a fan in the front row wanted another solo. Even though, any of us could easily state that Frank would be one of the best soloists ever (a lot of that material is still not released, and some of it was the preshow stuff before a concert with the band warming up, and Frank just being over it all ... which might have helped him define and create new stuff. Gentle Giant, in many ways, was, at the time, the ultimate college/university band, putting together everything they ever learned and knew ... in a very uncompromising way ... that was perfect for the rock music crowd. And their musicianship was special as many of them swapped parts many times in concert. And played a lot of different instruments, which added something else. Both of them were phenomenal in concert ... and that is probably the best way to compare them ... both had enough difficult material that they could easily fall apart at any moment, but never did!
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Jeffro ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 29 2014 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 2201 |
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Using the personal metric of "how much of the music do I like", it's GG for me but I do appreciate and enjoy me some Zappa.
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Boojieboy ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 02 2016 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 664 |
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I'm going with the more-respectable Brit band over the bathroom humor / comedy rock of the American guy.
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Zappastolethetowels ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 19 2023 Location: NY Status: Offline Points: 1209 |
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Grumpyprogfan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 09 2019 Location: Kansas City Status: Offline Points: 12753 |
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Hope all is well, Argo2122.
Have to vote Zappa. |
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Moyan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 29 2024 Location: Suffex Status: Offline Points: 1324 |
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Gentle Giant by nautical mile.
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Saperlipopette! ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 20 2010 Location: Tomorrowland Status: Offline Points: 12749 |
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Rick1 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 14 2020 Location: Loughborough UK Status: Offline Points: 3077 |
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Let's compare apples and oranges!
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Big Sky ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 24 2022 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1024 |
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Sums up my thoughts. |
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21757 |
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Zappa. He was much more versatile and had a host of insanely talented musicians in his bands.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 44926 |
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Hot Rats! A poll in which I can't vote, although Frank Zappa will be coming up - eventually - in my Legends of Laurel Canyon blog. Thankfully, that's a Long Long Time away in the future, as Frank will be the next to last artist featured - falling somewhere in-between Townes Van Zandt and Warren Zevon.
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Moonshake ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 16 2022 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 911 |
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I can't vote in this poll. I've been listening to Zappa since the late 60s, and Gentle Giant since the early 70s, and I still love them both. Edited by Moonshake - June 16 2023 at 13:06 |
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barbera ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: August 08 2006 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 28 |
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The Giants for sure. But Zappa an honorable second place
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Boi_da_boi_124 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 25 2023 Location: North of Edge Status: Offline Points: 117 |
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This is tough for me, but GG. Only about half of Frank Zappa's discography I love, but 90% of GG's I do.
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Negoba ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: July 24 2008 Location: Big Muddy Status: Offline Points: 5210 |
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Zappa is more important in the history of modern music and I like a lot of his stuff - but for me personal GG has a special place. An esoteric nerd place to sure, but that's why we're here, no?
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Necrotica ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Colaborator Joined: July 28 2015 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 3407 |
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Gotta go with GG here.
When it comes to Zappa, I respect his work more than I actually enjoy it. His influence on rock music is incredible, but I don't really find myself sitting down to listen to one of his albums all that often. GG though? I could listen to them any day of the week
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Octopus II ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 21 2023 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 13252 |
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Gentle Giant by a country mile.
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